[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[supermanmk]

A kidnapper aims gun at a civilian trying to kidnap him by telling him like get in the car or hands up and the civilian responds with "I dont want to RP" or "Im not in the mood to RP" and other people on public chat just say you can't force RP.

Its clearly the guy refuses to rp to save his cash from being stolen or because he does not want to die or get hurt. My point is that if everyone does that you can't RP. A guy can refuse to RP being kidnapped but to RP that someone has to be kidnapped. If someone does not want to RP shouldn't he just leave the server until he is in the "mood"? Its a RP server after all.

[Gandalf]

Situation: Undercover cop arranges a deal with a criminal to buy weapons. Criminal knows that the cop is undercover and tries to get the cop to come to a secluded location for the 'deal'. The cop backs out of the deal. Is the criminal allowed to kill the cop for attempting to f**k him over?

Yes, however he should after that not be surprised if the police does not ask for surrender.

[Gandalf]

A kidnapper aims gun at a civilian trying to kidnap him by telling him like get in the car or hands up and the civilian responds with "I dont want to RP" or "Im not in the mood to RP" and other people on public chat just say you can't force RP.

Its clearly the guy refuses to rp to save his cash from being stolen or because he does not want to die or get hurt. My point is that if everyone does that you can't RP. A guy can refuse to RP being kidnapped but to RP that someone has to be kidnapped. If someone does not want to RP shouldn't he just leave the server until he is in the "mood"? Its a RP server after all.

Before attempting a kidnapping scneario, you have to look al all the factors involved. Who are you kidnapping ?
Why are you kidnapping that person ?
Who will pay the ransom ?
Where are you kidnapping the person ?

If you walk up to a random player in the middle of a busy area, you are not RPing a kidnapping, you are trying to either create a shootout or get easy money. There for expect players not to react friendly to it.

While people are on server to RP, and should basicly react to any situation, also remember that without creativity people get extrememly tired of constantly repeating the same things.

[Mikro]

Before attempting a kidnapping scneario, you have to look al all the factors involved. Who are you kidnapping ?
Why are you kidnapping that person ?
Who will pay the ransom ?
Where are you kidnapping the person ?

If you walk up to a random player in the middle of a busy area, you are not RPing a kidnapping, you are trying to either create a shootout or get easy money. There for expect players not to react friendly to it.

While people are on server to RP, and should basicly react to any situation, also remember that without creativity people get extrememly tired of constantly repeating the same things.

But what should be the reacting of the "kidnapper" in that situation? Is he allowed to shoot his "hostage" to dead? Or is it DM then?

[Petar]

"You can not force RP", this is for kidnapers/robbers. Robber: HANDS UP! Civil: I don't wana RP , fuck off.


Cop: This is the LAW pull over to the side of the road.
*Cop has received a Personal Message from Civil saying : I don't wana RP, fuck off.

Cop suspects Civil for evading.




Sorry , What the Flying fuck ?

[Oliver]

Yes, however he should after that not be surprised if the police does not ask for surrender.

Thank you for clarifying, I was actually admin punished for that.

[Gandalf]

But what should be the reacting of the "kidnapper" in that situation? Is he allowed to shoot his "hostage" to dead? Or is it DM then?

Basicly if the kidnapper shoots he has a reason that the target did resist the attempt.
However as you can understand the target will report the incident, with all the time and effort from admins to sort out the situation, it would not be a wise thing to do.

Once again, it does depend on how careful the kidnapper planned the scenario. We may not be a real life server, but when you plan a RP you do have to consider how realistic your RP is to the surroundings.
If you try to kidnap someone on Pershing square and shoot him if he does not wish to cooperate, do not be surprised if admins classify it as DM, as the only reason for you to shoot is to get suspected and start a fight.
When tried the same on the head of a mafia who is without protection at the time and in a deserted area, it is a different situation.

[Gandalf]

"You can not force RP", this is for kidnapers/robbers. Robber: HANDS UP! Civil: I don't wana RP , f**k off.


Cop: This is the LAW pull over to the side of the road.
*Cop has received a Personal Message from Civil saying : I don't wana RP, f**k off.

Cop suspects Civil for evading.




Sorry , What the Flying f**k ?

see my above answer.

[supermanmk]

Ok gandalf just want to say i was not talking about a certain area ofcourse you need to have a good plan before kidnap like the place where you will keep him and all.

[Vince]

Cop: This is the LAW pull over to the side of the road.
*Cop has received a Personal Message from Civil saying : I don't wana RP, f**k off.

Cop suspects Civil for evading.




Sorry , What the Flying f**k ?

I'd hate to but in here, but there's a simply answer as to why you are going "Sorry , What the Flying fuck ?".

If you in the first place, did not decide to speed or drive recklessly, the police would not have to pull you over. By doing that you are initiating the roleplay yourself If you would have driven according to the law (even just when you see cops or other citizens) the police would have had no real reason to pull you over, and if you had kindly stated that to the officer attempting to pull you over that you were driving fine and do not wish to roleplay - I do not see a reason for him to say no.

[Pandalink]

What about a routine pulling over of a car within the speedlimit?
Why are they able to initiate that situation (of being wanted) without our consent and without any reason?

[Gandalf]

What about a routine pulling over of a car within the speedlimit?
Why are they able to initiate that situation (of being wanted) without our consent and without any reason?

They do not initiate the situation of being wanted. The siatuation might be initiated by your respons though.

[Alessandro]

I didnt find appropriate topic for complain,so i put this question here.

Is in rules when i /gu,officer ask from me to send him all my weapons,and when i cant send cause he already have same,he ask from me to shoot all my 100+ bullets ? And i /gu just because i have to much weapon,and i ask him when he cuff me,does i loose weapons..

[Gandalf]

I didnt find appropriate topic for complain,so i put this question here.

Is in rules when i /gu,officer ask from me to send him all my weapons,and when i cant send cause he already have same,he ask from me to shoot all my 100+ bullets ? And i /gu just because i have to much weapon,and i ask him when he cuff me,does i loose weapons..

When you surrender cops have no rights to ask you to give or destroy your weapons.

[Cofiliano]

I didnt find appropriate topic for complain,so i put this question here.

Is in rules when i /gu,officer ask from me to send him all my weapons,and when i cant send cause he already have same,he ask from me to shoot all my 100+ bullets ? And i /gu just because i have to much weapon,and i ask him when he cuff me,does i loose weapons..

Alessandro please tell me the name of that police man here or on pm. I am more then interested.