[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Mafs]

Situation:
One or two suspects get suspected and they decide to hide in their house, they invite more people (non-suspected people) and they keep aim at the door waiting for cops to enter.
The cops are instantly killed once they enter.

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I was not sure if this was allowed or not. Both things I mean, the 'spawnkilling' and inviting other people to come fight with them.

[Sprunk]

I think inviting people is allowed but not spawnkilling, you can invite your gang/mafia friends

[EminemRulez]

Situation - Jailing gang mates.
Today, I've seen a player getting warned for script abuse - Jailing gangmates for 15seconds and wondered, was it valid?
Let me get my facts straight, we're allowed to be corrupted cops? But we're not allowed to jail players with same tag for the time we want? There for, we're not allowed to be corrupts? Shouldn't he get copbanned instead of admin-warned?

Regards

[Gandalf]

Situation:
One or two suspects get suspected and they decide to hide in their house, they invite more people (non-suspected people) and they keep aim at the door waiting for cops to enter.
The cops are instantly killed once they enter.

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I was not sure if this was allowed or not. Both things I mean, the 'spawnkilling' and inviting other people to come fight with them.

If there is no police outside you can invite friends, however they will be treated as suspects and can not claim to be innocent. From the moment police is outside the door, friends are no longer allowed to break through the police lines and enter the house. This first because if the rule not to aid suspects by firing at the police, secondly to avoid people returning after death.

As during the entrance people are frozen, it is not considered spawnkilling. Cops have the same possibility waiting for you outside as you have waiting inside.

However there are runours that cops can use heavy special grenades in case of groupd constantly camping suspected in their house. They are not buyable, but when deployed extremely powerful.

[Sprunk]

Satchel Charges or scripted ones like CBFasi used in 4.15 car system meeting in FBI?

[Mafs]

If there is no police outside you can invite friends, however they will be treated as suspects and can not claim to be innocent. From the moment police is outside the door, friends are no longer allowed to break through the police lines and enter the house. This first because if the rule not to aid suspects by firing at the police, secondly to avoid people returning after death.

As during the entrance people are frozen, it is not considered spawnkilling. Cops have the same possibility waiting for you outside as you have waiting inside.

However there are runours that cops can use heavy special grenades in case of groupd constantly camping suspected in their house. They are not buyable, but when deployed extremely powerful.

Well, there is a particulair house which is most popular under the 'Rinnegatos'. They do invite people after the house has been barricaded. e.g driving an NRG to the door and /enter whilst still on the bike, making the police unable to suspect them.

Spawnkilling is possible, the police could not enter without getting killed instantly, the only way to survive was /enter and within 3 seconds to /exit again. Making it hardly impossible to even load the interior. (NOTE: This has happend over 5 times, whilst I was online)

So, spawnkilling seems allowed?
And about the non-suspect within the house, they also keep their aim at the door shooting for cops. Whilst not suspected (yet!).

So, is spawnkilling allowed? Since it IS possible.
And for non-suspects to help their 'friends'?

[Pandalink]

Interior and Exterior spawnkilling are allowed.

[Omri]

Situtation: Me, got rammed and I reported him after some time I reported him again for flaming but nothing happended. He left and drove off, I walked to GS9 and saw him again and reported him once again for DMing, he killed me and I reported him twice again for DMing and admins should they the death messages.
I've end up getting kicked for flooding

How is this fair?
If he got specated from the first report they will notice if they looked for 2 mins that he was a rulebreaker..

[Gandalf]

Situation - Jailing gang mates.
Today, I've seen a player getting warned for script abuse - Jailing gangmates for 15seconds and wondered, was it valid?
Let me get my facts straight, we're allowed to be corrupted cops? But we're not allowed to jail players with same tag for the time we want? There for, we're not allowed to be corrupts? Shouldn't he get copbanned instead of admin-warned?

Regards

If a player goes on duty ONLY to jail his gangmates its script abuse, and can be handled in different ways.
A copban is a possibility, in this case a warning was issued which is a lesser punishment.
Playing a corrupt cop is allowed, but going on duty to jail friends and going off at once is not playing a corrupt cop.

[Gandalf]

Well, there is a particulair house which is most popular under the 'Rinnegatos'. They do invite people after the house has been barricaded. e.g driving an NRG to the door and /enter whilst still on the bike, making the police unable to suspect them.

Spawnkilling is possible, the police could not enter without getting killed instantly, the only way to survive was /enter and within 3 seconds to /exit again. Making it hardly impossible to even load the interior. (NOTE: This has happend over 5 times, whilst I was online)

So, spawnkilling seems allowed?
And about the non-suspect within the house, they also keep their aim at the door shooting for cops. Whilst not suspected (yet!).

So, is spawnkilling allowed? Since it IS possible.
And for non-suspects to help their 'friends'?

People entering the house after a police barricade has been put can lead to banning those who enter, and also to a group warning. Another possibility is to blow up all present in the house...

Spawnkilling is not allowed, however entering/exiting a house is not spawning.

[Gandalf]

Situtation: Me, got rammed and I reported him after some time I reported him again for flaming but nothing happended. He left and drove off, I walked to GS9 and saw him again and reported him once again for DMing, he killed me and I reported him twice again for DMing and admins should they the death messages.
I've end up getting kicked for flooding

How is this fair?
If he got specated from the first report they will notice if they looked for 2 mins that he was a rulebreaker..

Give date and time, and we will check, including all of YOUR actions.
Remember that after a report admins will see your actions as well as those from the other player, and they can be reason not to act on the report.

[Omri]

Sorry I just remember it was yesterday and the admin that kicked me was TheRock, so from his actions you can might find what happended in logs when you go though them if you do.


Edit: May 24, 2010, 08:13:48 I posted the first reply, and I did it after beeing kicked, so I would guess maybe it happended around 07:45 - 08:13.

[rJCaiG]

Perhaps instead of publicly humiliating TheRock you could have emailed [email protected] like all other people do and made a complaint?

[Whiteman]

New rule.

You must be playing on argonath atleast, 3 months to create a group, players will get experience first for their group, the end.

[Hidduh]

New rule.

You must be playing on argonath atleast, 3 months to create a group, players will get experience first for their group, the end.

No, why would that be limited? Let them create their own groups whenever they want.. I don't get the point.. Anyway that's my opinion.