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[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

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Reply #765 on: October 20, 2010, 12:37:06 am
Bob is an FBI agent with intentions to go under cover with a new account to prevent /whenmade or whatever to find him out. Bob goes to Gandalf saying "can has uc acc?"

Question: Can FBI be given special permission to have a new account strictly for FBI UC shit?



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Reply #766 on: October 20, 2010, 12:49:18 am
Bob is an FBI agent with intentions to go under cover with a new account to prevent /whenmade or whatever to find him out. Bob goes to Gandalf saying "can has uc acc?"

Question: Can FBI be given special permission to have a new account strictly for FBI UC shit?

No i do not belive Bob can have a secondary account for purpose of inflitrating mafia groups or doing his job. atleast that isnt allowed for SAPD Undercover division's. Only admins are people allowed on server to have a secondary account.

This is what i think, wait for someone to confirm it.



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Reply #767 on: October 21, 2010, 03:37:27 am
Bob is an FBI agent with intentions to go under cover with a new account to prevent /whenmade or whatever to find him out. Bob goes to Gandalf saying "can has uc acc?"

Question: Can FBI be given special permission to have a new account strictly for FBI UC shit?

I have heard rumors about normal players being allowed to have a secondary account if they have a good reason.

RUMORS, DONT TAKE THIS POST AS A GOD GIVEN FACT.



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Reply #768 on: October 21, 2010, 05:07:47 pm
Player1 is at a weed field, GROWING [already planted] weed
Player2 Comes, tries to grow, and then realizes player1 has already planted.


Does Player2 have the right to kill Player1 to steal his weed - or is this DM?



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Reply #769 on: October 22, 2010, 11:21:13 am
Bob is an FBI agent with intentions to go under cover with a new account to prevent /whenmade or whatever to find him out. Bob goes to Gandalf saying "can has uc acc?"

Question: Can FBI be given special permission to have a new account strictly for FBI UC shit?

Nope. Not at all. Only admins or mangers etc. are allowed to have a UC account.

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Reply #770 on: October 27, 2010, 09:28:10 pm
Bob is an FBI agent with intentions to go under cover with a new account to prevent /whenmade or whatever to find him out. Bob goes to Gandalf saying "can has uc acc?"

Question: Can FBI be given special permission to have a new account strictly for FBI UC shit?

Bob should be told about function /changename, which costs 10k... I am sure FBI has a good budget...

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Reply #771 on: October 27, 2010, 09:30:30 pm
Player1 is at a weed field, GROWING [already planted] weed
Player2 Comes, tries to grow, and then realizes player1 has already planted.


Does Player2 have the right to kill Player1 to steal his weed - or is this DM?

In this case there is a valid reason for fight... So no, its not a deathmatch...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #772 on: October 27, 2010, 10:11:40 pm
Problem: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=56738.0
Situation: Been there since June 20th, and not fixed.. Dissapointing me a bit

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Reply #773 on: October 30, 2010, 05:53:12 pm
going to give actualy situation since its a special one.

A player on duty says 'fucking cops, how do they work?' [as a joke to 'fucking magnets']
Mod bananas person for 600 seconds.
player asks why he is bananad
Mod claims what he said is trolling
Player asks how its trolling or even offensive
Mod can not give a real reason to how it is trolling
Player asks if he can get unbanana'd since mod can not prove why it is trolling
Mod threatens a ban if the player stop talking to him about situation
Player is temp banned for 'questioning moderator'

is this fair? the Player proved the mod had no explanation to how it was trolling but when he does he is tempbanned? How does this make sense?



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Reply #774 on: October 30, 2010, 08:28:36 pm
going to give actualy situation since its a special one.

A player on duty says 'f**king cops, how do they work?' [as a joke to 'f**king magnets']

Yes, it is offensive... If you have no idea why, ask yourself what will be your reaction on "Fucking Jamal, how does he roleplay?"

If it was supposed as a joke, it should be done in local chat and to those cops, who actually are involved in a funny roleplay you suggested... If you supposed it as a joke but saw that people took it in other way - just drop it ("Sorry, did not mean any harm man")

Mod bananas person for 600 seconds.

Admins should not banana on that long time... I actually was explaining it to admins team several times... Seems like I should instruct the team once again...

player asks why he is bananad
Mod claims what he said is trolling
Player asks how its trolling or even offensive

Read above...

Mod can not give a real reason to how it is trolling

How can you explain to man who thinks that "fucking cops" is not offensive for cops that he is trolling?

Player asks if he can get unbanana'd since mod can not prove why it is trolling
Mod threatens a ban if the player stop talking to him about situation
Player is temp banned for 'questioning moderator'

is this fair? the Player proved the mod had no explanation to how it was trolling but when he does he is tempbanned? How does this make sense?

Player did not prove anything but became be annoying claiming he was not trolling other players when did... One is that from banana rule he started demands, secondly he was constantly disturbing admin by arguing, when all what he needed was just finish the banana time and continue playing...

 :ps: The banana rule of Argonath came from Rockstars Clan joke... On other servers such rule called "STFU"... We decided that we will make the more polite form of muting player to have a time to steam out...

And with this I am curious... You were offended by banana but could not get why pointing to cops with swearing in words is not offensive...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #775 on: October 31, 2010, 02:14:57 am
Yes, it is offensive... If you have no idea why, ask yourself what will be your reaction on "f**king Jamal, how does he roleplay?"

If it was supposed as a joke, it should be done in local chat and to those cops, who actually are involved in a funny roleplay you suggested... If you supposed it as a joke but saw that people took it in other way - just drop it ("Sorry, did not mean any harm man")

Admins should not banana on that long time... I actually was explaining it to admins team several times... Seems like I should instruct the team once again...

Read above...

How can you explain to man who thinks that "f**king cops" is not offensive for cops that he is trolling?

Player did not prove anything but became be annoying claiming he was not trolling other players when did... One is that from banana rule he started demands, secondly he was constantly disturbing admin by arguing, when all what he needed was just finish the banana time and continue playing...

 :ps: The banana rule of Argonath came from Rockstars Clan joke... On other servers such rule called "STFU"... We decided that we will make the more polite form of muting player to have a time to steam out...

And with this I am curious... You were offended by banana but could not get why pointing to cops with swearing in words is not offensive...
Okay i understand what you say. to answer; 'How can you explain' - explain what its trolling or how. When i asked I meant 'how could it be considered trolling if its a joke' - more to mean how can it be trolling if there is no form of trolling.

It was not pointing to cops offensively it was just 'fucking cops, how do they work,' as a cop myself it was a considerable thought that it was really just a joke. It should also be noted there was a conversation about cops[in general] which ended around 3 minutes after I said the phrase.



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Reply #776 on: October 31, 2010, 06:52:54 am
Okay i understand what you say. to answer; 'How can you explain' - explain what its trolling or how. When i asked I meant 'how could it be considered trolling if its a joke' - more to mean how can it be trolling if there is no form of trolling.

It was not pointing to cops offensively it was just 'f**king cops, how do they work,' as a cop myself it was a considerable thought that it was really just a joke. It should also be noted there was a conversation about cops[in general] which ended around 3 minutes after I said the phrase.

You should start see the difference between joke and offense yourself... The problem was not in admin who muted you because saw a trolling, the problem was in you see a trolling as a joke...At least if you want to see more - try from others angles...

The cop near you can take it as a joke, cos was involved in situation, and cops who are far and do their business could take it as a pure offense... As chat does not give you a possibility to express the friendly smile anyways the phrase "fucking cops" already is offensive... Add here "how do they work" and we get some moaning troll...  :hah:

So to understand if it is offensive you need to look at it from the side...It is only way to understand, nobody will explain you, because offense is a feeling not a math formula...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #777 on: October 31, 2010, 01:34:49 pm
What is wrong with the clan protection system? I think the /group command is down, you guys know why?

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Reply #778 on: October 31, 2010, 09:20:01 pm
You should start see the difference between joke and offense yourself... The problem was not in admin who muted you because saw a trolling, the problem was in you see a trolling as a joke...At least if you want to see more - try from others angles...

The cop near you can take it as a joke, cos was involved in situation, and cops who are far and do their business could take it as a pure offense... As chat does not give you a possibility to express the friendly smile anyways the phrase "f**king cops" already is offensive... Add here "how do they work" and we get some moaning troll...  :hah:

So to understand if it is offensive you need to look at it from the side...It is only way to understand, nobody will explain you, because offense is a feeling not a math formula...
as i said - i was not moaning. I was on duty myself so why would i moan on cops.



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Reply #779 on: October 31, 2010, 09:45:04 pm
as i said - i was not moaning. I was on duty myself so why would i moan on cops.

As if cops do not moan about other cops on Argonath...
But I said to you how it looked... Up to you to realize it or not...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


 


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