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[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

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Reply #780 on: November 01, 2010, 02:11:24 pm
To make this question more understandable i'll put in some examples;
Weed is legal.
Money is legal too.
If someone steals money he is commiting a crime (theft).
But what if someone steals your weed? Is that a crime too?
(With stealing I mean /harvesting the weed before the original grower does)


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Reply #781 on: November 01, 2010, 05:51:00 pm
To make this question more understandable i'll put in some examples;
Weed is legal.
Money is legal too.
If someone steals money he is commiting a crime (theft).
But what if someone steals your weed? Is that a crime too?
(With stealing I mean /harvesting the weed before the original grower does)

Well from my perspecitive, the weed isn't in anyone's pockets so it's more like ''who can get it first''

Let's say you go to a pile of poop (which is usable for everyone), you plant a money seed in it, money comes out and other people take it before you. The area you planted it is public, so it doesn't really ''belong to you'', but it was your money seed.

Nvm let dev answer...


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Reply #782 on: November 01, 2010, 09:15:08 pm
I hate it when people steal my cashpoop.


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Reply #783 on: November 02, 2010, 06:27:55 pm
I need to get a solid clarification.

Back at the time, when Gimli was on server, he sweared in /p like "Oh fuck this fucked shit". After all LOL's and other public spam went through, he messaged "What? swearing is allowed"

In Syn's unban request topic you stated the following:
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1. Swearing is against the rules, do not confuse slang with swearing.


So, is swearing actually allowed or not?

http://argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46601.0
Quote from: ElMartu on WS Forums --->http://www.wshadows.com/forum/index.php?topic=1012.msg15914#msg15914 date=1274383278
DONT PRESSURE ME IM RETARED
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Reply #784 on: November 02, 2010, 09:05:24 pm
To make this question more understandable i'll put in some examples;
Weed is legal.
Money is legal too.
If someone steals money he is commiting a crime (theft).
But what if someone steals your weed? Is that a crime too?
(With stealing I mean /harvesting the weed before the original grower does)

Wahaha... I imagine the guy coming to the Police Department desk: Hello officer, somebody stole my weed!...  :hah:

Lets make it simple... Stealing weed is a personal issue between criminals themselves...

I need to get a solid clarification.

Back at the time, when Gimli was on server, he sweared in /p like "Oh f**k this f**ked shit". After all LOL's and other public spam went through, he messaged "What? swearing is allowed"

In Syn's unban request topic you stated the following:

So, is swearing actually allowed or not?

Is not allowed to insult or flame players... Usually swearing is a part/method to express your insulting... If player will say in public chat "fucking weather" or some other context which is not related to the personal attack, its ok... However its usually warned as players do not have limits in using swearing language...

There is a big difference between "fucking faggot asscop money hunger" and "Guys where the fuck did my car go?"

Swearing can also be a part of friendly roleplay, but only in case when both sides understand and just chilling around with each other... But that is a local chat issue and if other side feels offended such "roleplay" should be dropped... As in other way the offended person can report you to admins and admins have all rights to give you punishment...

And please do not cut off quotes and put it to every case, as the quote is an answer to the special situation...

That were variations of usage... But (as I already said) players either have no limits or trying to hide the disrespect under roleplay or friendly chilling clothes... With that we doubt players can handle swearing in a normal way and usually disallow it in the beginning...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #785 on: November 02, 2010, 09:20:27 pm
Is not allowed to insult or flame players... Usually swearing is a part/method to express your insulting... If player will say in public chat "f**king weather" or some other context which is not related to the personal attack, its ok... However its usually warned as players do not have limits in using swearing language...

There is a big difference between "f**king bad guy asscop money hunger" and "Guys where the f**k did my car go?"

Swearing can also be a part of friendly roleplay, but only in case when both sides understand and just chilling around with each other... But that is a local chat issue and if other side feels offended such "roleplay" should be dropped... As in other way the offended person can report you to admins and admins have all rights to give you punishment...

And please do not cut off quotes and put it to every case, as the quote is an answer to the special situation...

That were variations of usage... But (as I already said) players either have no limits or trying to hide the disrespect under roleplay or friendly chilling clothes... With that we doubt players can handle swearing in a normal way and usually disallow it in the beginning...
So swearing, when not touching other players, is allowed.
Thanks.

http://argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46601.0
Quote from: ElMartu on WS Forums --->http://www.wshadows.com/forum/index.php?topic=1012.msg15914#msg15914 date=1274383278
DONT PRESSURE ME IM RETARED
The entire reason we have Hydra/Hunter on the server is because cops don't know how to work together. Sadly


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Reply #786 on: November 02, 2010, 09:22:03 pm
Back at the time, when Gimli was on server, he sweared in /p like "Oh f**k this f**ked shit". After all LOL's and other public spam went through, he messaged "What? swearing is allowed"

When was this? :trust:

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Reply #787 on: November 02, 2010, 09:22:12 pm
So swearing, when not touching other players, is allowed.
Thanks.

No... Swearing is not allowed... Especially for you as you will abuse it for sure...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #788 on: November 02, 2010, 09:35:22 pm
So you can't flame your friends as a joke ??
I mean I flame on msn/facebook to other argonath members and they know I'm joking and don't care but if I flame them in the server AND they KNOW I'm JOKING is it punishable ? .....



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Reply #789 on: November 03, 2010, 12:33:25 am
So you can't flame your friends as a joke ??
I mean I flame on msn/facebook to other argonath members and they know I'm joking and don't care but if I flame them in the server AND they KNOW I'm JOKING is it punishable ? .....

You mean swearing, as i understand, not a flame... You can... But on local chat and if the person takes it as a joke really... If person does not take it as a jokeh/does not like your swearing - drop it...

I think I wrote it clearly, no?

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #790 on: November 03, 2010, 12:39:40 am
So you can't flame your friends as a joke ??
I mean I flame on msn/facebook to other argonath members and they know I'm joking and don't care but if I flame them in the server AND they KNOW I'm JOKING is it punishable ? .....
Even if they know you are joking, other people who see it might not know.
Should they be new players, they could get the impression it is allowed, and get punished for it later.
Should they be admins, you might get punished, and then all upset because you were only joking.

There for do not make such jokes outside private situations, the results can be not funny at all...

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Reply #791 on: November 03, 2010, 01:37:32 pm

No... Swearing is not allowed...
But you said it yourself it IS OK to swear:
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If player will say in public chat "f**king weather" or some other context which is not related to the personal attack, its ok... [/u]
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Especially for you as you will abuse it for sure...
Those are my problems whether I'll abuse it or not.
quote author=Gimli link=topic=18054.msg893270#msg893270 date=1288729323]
When was this? :trust:
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http://argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46601.0
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DONT PRESSURE ME IM RETARED
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Reply #792 on: November 03, 2010, 02:28:08 pm
But you said it yourself it IS OK to swear:

No it is NOT OK to swear...
And do not even try to find the excuses for your swear on Argonath...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #793 on: November 03, 2010, 02:38:48 pm
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If player will say in public chat "f**king weather" or some other context which is not related to the personal attack, its ok...
No it is NOT OK to swear...
Which is the current correct quote?

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Reply #794 on: November 03, 2010, 04:15:49 pm
Pulling people over in civillian vehicles, is this still disallowed?

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