[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Altair_Carter]

No it is NOT OK to swear...

Now you confused me.

And do not even try to find the excuses for your swear on Argonath...

I hope you do the same.

[Leon.]

Related to what Jamal was saying earlier...

Are players entitled to the right of knowing what they did wrong if punished, if they genuinely do not have any idea what they may have done wrong? Example
/p FUCKING FUCK OF A FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
You were given a banana for 120 seconds.
/pm admin What did I do for the banana?

Most of the time, it comes out something like
/pm player Don't argue
Then later
/tempban player 15 arguing with admins

Yes, in the example, that player should have OBVIOUSLY known what he did wrong. But let's just assume that he has no idea that using the word "fuck" in full capitals 9 times spamming all the way across the screen of anyone there to see it breaks the rules of no caps and no spamming. Often times, when a player literally has no idea he's done something wrong or has no idea what he's been punished for (e.g., short term memory loss - everyone gets it every once in a while, some more than others) and asks an admin what happened, the admin often responds with "Don't argue with admins" or "You know what you did wrong!"

What if someone didn't know what they did wrong? Or maybe they don't see any wrong in what they've done. Are they entitled to the right of being informed of what they may have done wrong and why it was wrong?

[Aragorn]

I hope you do the same.

I am here the owner, and who the fuck are you to tell me what to do?
Wanna democracy? go to government elections in your city...

[Aragorn]

Related to what Jamal was saying earlier...

Are players entitled to the right of knowing what they did wrong if punished, if they genuinely do not have any idea what they may have done wrong? Example
/p f**kING f**k OF A f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k
You were given a banana for 120 seconds.
/pm admin What did I do for the banana?

Most of the time, it comes out something like
/pm player Don't argue
Then later
/tempban player 15 arguing with admins

The banana rule already explains that admin reacted on player's logs and nothing else...
Yes, admin can tell "do not swear on this server"...

The banana on 120 seconds - is a harsh...
I was several times notifying to admins that the longest banana should be around 30 seconds... Seems like I will request from scripters to set it to 30 seconds automatically... What can happen for those 120 seconds accept more pissing off?

Admin has rights to tempban player who started annoying admin in pm with accusations and etc, especially when the punishment is finished... Its simple, banana was gone, why the fuck to start a fight?
Admin should try to explain the reason on banana in case if player totally out on understanding...
But admin can ignore the pms and give a warning/tempban if player just moaning and arguing...

"What the fuck I said FUCK just for fun!"
Admin ignores to let the guy clam down... It is strange but if admin does not react in such cases players usually clam down later... The one who start accusations in ignoring them - again moaners...

[Syn]

The banana on 120 seconds - is a harsh...
I was several times notifying to admins that the longest banana should be around 30 seconds... Seems like I will request from scripters to set it to 30 seconds automatically... What can happen for those 120 seconds accept more pissing off?

I myself have been a victim of being bananad for 300 Seconds on multiple ocasions.

[Aragorn]

I myself have been a victim of being bananad for 300 Seconds on multiple ocasions.

Yes I know, I already saw this things several times... My fault I did not make a topic yet in admins team, cos just notifying in admins chat seems like does not work at all... We will solve this things...

[JDC]

If player will say in public chat "f**king weather" or some other context which is not related to the personal attack, its ok...

No it is NOT OK to swear...

I am confused as well... please clarify this for everyone.

[Altair_Carter]

I am here the owner, and who the f**k are you to tell me what to do?

Being an owner doesn't mean doing everything what you want makes you look good.

You know what I mean.

[Altair_Carter]

Yes I know, I already saw this things several times... My fault I did not make a topic yet in admins team, cos just notifying in admins chat seems like does not work at all... We will solve this things...

Also, the other day EliteTerm threatened that if someone misbehaved he'll banana him for 600 seconds. After I told him that you stated yourself putting banana that long is not allowed, at which he said that it is allowed and he's informed about it very well.

True or false?

[Gandalf]

Pulling people over in civillian vehicles, is this still disallowed?

When was this considered disallowed ?  :conf:

[Gandalf]

Also, the other day EliteTerm threatened that if someone misbehaved he'll banana him for 600 seconds. After I told him that you stated yourself putting banana that long is not allowed, at which he said that it is allowed and he's informed about it very well.

True or false?

As you have identified yourself as one of those people who can not leave admin work to admins and pretend to know the rules better, while constantly arguing and creating every kinf od shot on server insted of playing let me tell this clearly :

What the admins tell you is always correct. In case you have any doubt you are NOT allowed to tell them otherwise or point at them. In case of doubt either ask here or send a mail reporting the incident.

Now to answer your question: As long as the script /banana allows a setting of 600 seconds admins are basically allowed to use it. However if they use it on the first offense it is considered too harsh.
Should there be a constant offender, or someone who does it just to piss off the admins, they might also use a longer time, up until the maximum is reached for someone who is clearly disrupting.
While I would say for such a long time a tempban would be better, some admins prefer to use the /banana command to take a discussion out of public chat.

[Cero]

Can I ask why the rewards for cops were upped? I see this as a negative, due to:

- More than half the server is USUALY on cop duty now, at any given time.
- Cops suspect faster than before and suspects are killed quick as hell, oftenly given no chance to surrender.

I dont want cops to be restricted, but lowering or removing the rewards for killing criminals and the fines of killing civilians aswell, would be beneficial. Aswell as lowering the jailing reward.

In my opinion all rewards and fines for cops should be removed, that way their cash wouldn't move up OR down. The incentive to go on duty to make money would be gone, and those who really enjoy playing as cops could still do it without losing a ton of money. "but we need better guns". Well, there is a /weaponequip command and several special groups to take down dangerous criminals. Like FBI, SRU and SWAT.

[shitix]

Can I ask why the rewards for cops were upped? I see this as a negative, due to:

- More than half the server is USUALY on cop duty now, at any given time.
- Cops suspect faster than before and suspects are killed quick as hell, oftenly given no chance to surrender.

I dont want cops to be restricted, but lowering or removing the rewards for killing criminals and the fines of killing civilians aswell, would be beneficial. Aswell as lowering the jailing reward.

In my opinion all rewards and fines for cops should be removed, that way their cash wouldn't move up OR down. The incentive to go on duty to make money would be gone, and those who really enjoy playing as cops could still do it without losing a ton of money. "but we need better guns". Well, there is a /weaponequip command and several special groups to take down dangerous criminals. Like FBI, SRU and SWAT.

Totaly support this one, too many cops and lame suspect reasons.. and a big loss for criminals.

[Aragorn]

Totaly support this one, too many cops and lame suspect reasons.. and a big loss for criminals.

Yeah, lets remove money from cops job...
Fuck it, people already have no idea what they want from server...

[Aragorn]

Also, the other day EliteTerm threatened that if someone misbehaved he'll banana him for 600 seconds. After I told him that you stated yourself putting banana that long is not allowed, at which he said that it is allowed and he's informed about it very well.

True or false?

Did not you put yourself at admin's place? Would not you just wait for my resolutions and how will you behave if some player comes to you and pointing "Aragorn said its not allowed"?

600 seconds are in script... I wrote that I will talk to admins once again... Why go and teach admins?

The same goes to your issue against my words...

Being an owner doesn't mean doing everything what you want...

Sad to break your dreams but it does...