Your countries Military.

[Aragorn]

Dont join the army?
Country becomes weak and is an easy target.

Both ways...

Nope... Country is not army, country is peoples... It showed several countries already that does not need a good army to defend yourself...
Besides it nowadays can start the war only by two countries... Only from USA and Russia depends if the world will live in peace or it will be WW III...

If others would not support by their armies this two empires - the world would be much better... By Supporting both of them (does not matter which side) you allow wars continue on this Earth... Cos both USA and Russia are importing the weapons and need enemies...

And now I can tell one more probably shocked thing for you, guys...
If both empires are interested in weapons selling - they need some "reason" for that... Do you all know exactly that this two empires do not have the contract between each other? where they deal with "for others shit on each other and between each other just share amount from sold weapons"... You cannot answer yes or no... But you will have to agree that it can be "yes" as well as it can be "no"... Cos reasons for "yes" not less then reasons for "no"...
Do you know that Russia still supports dollar? When its easier for Russia to continue with Euro... Now you can ask yourself "Why?"... Why Russia supports dollar of USA when (if they would be REALLY enemies) Russia could just stop any moves of dollar which could bring USA to more economical troubles? So on public USA and Russia are like dogs vs cats, and whats in reality? Russia supports dollar... ))

Two countries making money on weapons, making some scandals around each other to have "reasons" to produce more weapons... And all other countries just give them their military forces for "peacemaking"...

Sorry guys, but my motivations against army and weapons is much bigger then some childish threats "what if Russian Monster will attack us from under the bed!"...

[James_Hunter]

You can make your country be proud without military... For me it just sounds like commercial - join the Army to make your country be proud... Why not to start developing medicine and finding the treatment from disease?

I do not see a proud thing in "Our Army killed more people then your army"...

The reality is that with such humans like we - every land needs an army...
But nowadays Military forces are usually fight in wars that politics start... And politics start wars to find new ways to sell weapons or take oil... Supporting such policies, Armies support the wars...

This is what I meant when said I do not want to kill people and do not like to carry the gun which made specially to kill people... And I will not support any politics to kill others for their money making...

If I would sign in Army I would automatically sign to do all job government tells me... Why should I kill people or train to kill people cos government wants it?

Wanna training, be strong? Go to sport... Its the best way to make yourself strong and disciplined... And you can make your country be proud of you as well...

I understand where your coming from, I really do which is why i'm 40/60 on the Royal Marines, your right - the military isn't just about killing, they are a countrys defence and will often be sent out to give aid to other countrys that request it who are suffering from a natural disaster such as a flood or hurricane, the Iran military has shown a lot of gratitude to the armies helping them try to make a safe country for their children to live in, some of the videos recorded by soldiers, not the goverment show things along these lines, in the military you build up very, very strong freindships that wouldn't be built anywhere else, quiet simply because you depend on each other to survive, knowing someone will be there if a bullet hits you is atleast somewhat of a satisfying thought, for everything you do or don't do there are disadvantages and advantages, just in the military the disadvantages have huge consequences just as the advantages of seeing your work (No im not talking about someones head exploding) and feeling a huge part of the team is also huge. I quote ''The real war is 90% work/aid/building/etc and %10 action".

Yeah, the war is fucked up, majorly - but there are a lot of innocents getting hurt in it, the Soldiers couldn't give much of a damn about the Goverment either, but you see why they do it, you would have to of looked into it a lot or had an experience with a serving unit to understand why they fight, plus not everyone can win the olympics or may not of had the chance to get into a medical school. Hope you see where i'm coming from with this?

[Aragorn]

Well, James, you see, in Russia there are special divisions that take actions with help when happens catastrophe like flood, earthquake, hurricanes...
This are people who are army and medicine the same time... They have medicine education and they are trained as Army special forces... But... Helping with hurricane is different from Army usual work and has nothing with running with the gun... This divisions have no guns at all... I actually do not understand "peacemakers" with the guns... Who decided that peace can be set by guns and bombs? 
Making people to listen to your guns = dictate... So formally this are  peacemakers, actually - forces of dictate...

[sinamun]

"what if Russian Monster will attack us from under the bed!"...

Michael Jackson?? 

[James_Hunter]

Well, James, you see, in Russia there are special divisions that take actions with help when happens catastrophe like flood, earthquake, hurricanes...
This are people who are army and medicine the same time... They have medicine education and they are trained as Army special forces... But... Helping with hurricane is different from Army usual work and has nothing with running with the gun... This divisions have no guns at all... I actually do not understand "peacemakers" with the guns... Who decided that peace can be set by guns and bombs? 
Making people to listen to your guns = dictate... So formally this are  peacemakers, actually - forces of dictate...

Well, if a Peace Maker is shot at, he has the right to defend himself, as do Journalists - except for there are no soldiers to protect peace makers, therefore they are trained to protect themselves. As for medics, again - what if they fall under fire? Do they not have the right to defend themselves? This is why everyone in the British army is first and formost a soldier, peacemakers don't enter a battlezone with no plan, they will of attempted negotiations at first and will most likely attempt to settle a dispute between two sides, much like the Russia and Georgia incident, theres always a bigger picture then just guns being involved, and not every country has a huge army like Russia, therefore soldiers may undertake different tasks, take in mind looters and people who would take advantage of a natural disaster as well - you can't send someone into a warzone without expecting them to have the right to protect themselves mate.

[Aragorn]

Michael Jackson?? 

You know the name and have no idea he is american?

[sinamun]

no i know he is american, i just dont like him and i make fun of him whenever i hear the frase 'Mommy, i think theres something under my bed'
i didnt meen nything bad against russia if u took it that way 
just michael jackson 

[Gandalf]

Well, if a Peace Maker is shot at, he has the right to defend himself, as do Journalists - except for there are no soldiers to protect peace makers, therefore they are trained to protect themselves. As for medics, again - what if they fall under fire? Do they not have the right to defend themselves? This is why everyone in the British army is first and formost a soldier, peacemakers don't enter a battlezone with no plan, they will of attempted negotiations at first and will most likely attempt to settle a dispute between two sides, much like the Russia and Georgia incident, theres always a bigger picture then just guns being involved, and not every country has a huge army like Russia, therefore soldiers may undertake different tasks, take in mind looters and people who would take advantage of a natural disaster as well - you can't send someone into a warzone without expecting them to have the right to protect themselves mate.

There are police forces to keep the order. No need to have other guys with guns around.
It is true that in a lot of countries someone in uniform automatically gets respect. But that is a misplaced respect towards the uniform. Dress a monkey in a uniform, it will still be a monkey.
If you want to serve your country, whenever you are in a foreign country or talking to people from another country understand that the impression they get from you will reflect on your country. Show yourself as loving weapons and uniforms - people will not see you as loving peace.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Turning words to provoke anti-russian conflict on forums...

What the fuck Ron? Are you blind? Did you not see I used my country in the same manner as I did with Russia
I don't see why you get so pissy when people say even one slightest thing about Russia, whether it's bad, or the fact that you can vaguely comprehend English enough to the fact that you take it as an insult?
I personally do not see how, you're, what, 33 years old, but still don't know so much English, and you punish others for it?
Fucking disgusting...

Moderated, or banned status, here I come lol... >.<

i didnt meen nything bad against russia if u took it that way 
just michael jackson 

See? Now you even have the kid scared shitless, because he knows you'll lay into him even if you think he's saying something bad with relations to Russia.

 Personal attack

[Aragorn]

Well, if a Peace Maker is shot at, he has the right to defend himself, as do Journalists - except for there are no soldiers to protect peace makers, therefore they are trained to protect themselves. As for medics, again - what if they fall under fire? Do they not have the right to defend themselves?

Every human has rights to defend himself, not only journalists or whatever...
Do you know that WAR starts from DEFENSE and not from attack? Think what I mean... Took example if one attacks and takes lands and example if one attacks and... getting defenders against...

While there will be "defense with bombs and guns" do not expect the peace...

As about medicals during battle (even thou I did not understand why you made the equal battle and earthquake help brigades), during WW II were many medics on the fields... They had guns, but they did not use it... They were busy saving people from the battlefield... It was NOT medicals task to shoot back the enemy's positions when enemy attacked them...

As about peacemaking forces... They are at the needed place and needed time to... make the situation not relaxed...
If you do not understand what means armed soldiers near your house from other country - you will not understand what feel civilians in places occupied by "peacemakers"...

[Aragorn]

What the f**k Ron? Are you blind? Did you not see I used my country in the same manner as I did with Russia
I don't see why you get so pissy when people say even one slightest thing about Russia, whether it's bad, or the fact that you can vaguely comprehend English enough to the fact that you take it as an insult?
I personally do not see how, you're, what, 33 years old, but still don't know so much English, and you punish others for it?
f**king disgusting...

Moderated, or banned status, here I come lol... >.<
See? Now you even have the kid scared shitless, because he knows you'll lay into him even if you think he's saying something bad with relations to Russia.

I apologize cos yes, I saw only a new attack on Russia... Sorry...

[Aragorn]

i didnt meen nything bad against russia if u took it that way 
just michael jackson 

Well then so that you know and be more careful - in Russia Michael Jackson is associated with pedophile and nuts guy... So yes your post could be counted as an offensive joke...

[James_Hunter]

Every human has rights to defend himself, not only journalists or whatever...
Do you know that WAR starts from DEFENSE and not from attack? Think what I mean... Took example if one attacks and takes lands and example if one attacks and... getting defenders against...

While there will be "defense with bombs and guns" do not expect the peace...

As about medicals during battle (even thou I did not understand why you made the equal battle and earthquake help brigades), during WW II were many medics on the fields... They had guns, but they did not use it... They were busy saving people from the battlefield... It was NOT medicals task to shoot back the enemy's positions when enemy attacked them...

As about peacemaking forces... They are at the needed place and needed time to... make the situation not relaxed...
If you do not understand what means armed soldiers near your house from other country - you will not understand what feel civilians in places occupied by "peacemakers"...

Ofcourse it's the medics priority to kill the enemy, he becomes a medic when hes required to be one - a man becomes shot, has a medical problem and goes to see the company medic about it, like I said - everyone in the army is first and formost a soldier, nothing about that changes i'm afraid mate, theres nothing to avoid that if your stuck inside a war-zone and you wish to live through it, your going to have to fire a shot or two. Again, I don't believe that fighting can be solved with more fighting either - all the Goverments are to sturborn to agree peace terms before blood has been shed. About the brigades devoted to natural disasters - as I was saying not every country has brigades dedicated to this, they have soldiers that take up that role, but again are first and formost soldiers. The police are trained to keep peace and order, yeah, but again - which country has enough armed policemen to succsesfully restore peace and order to a city that has suffered a huge natural disaster, whilst at the same time helping with the removal of trapped wounded and so on; none, which is why the army is called in.

Anyway, wars a very toutching topic for some people - we're not going to solve anything by talking about things in a thread hehe, unfortunetly we live in an imperfect world, people are trained to deal with things the best way they can, a war is a break down in communications along with the usual ingredients, maybe one day we will find an answer with no guns.

[JJ]

Hey aragorn,

Russians do not attack - learn the f**king history idiot...

They just attacked the little Georgia...

 Warning by Gandalf:
False information and acting like forum moderator/owner.

[Abraham]

Actually our army is next to nothing, maybe because we havent fought against anything since 1800 and forward. ( I think, Abraham, help me).

Yeah, the last time Sweden engaged in was was 1812... We where even neutral during the WW2.

Btw, Double posting is when you post the same post twice.