Your countries Military.

[Kitsune]

what in the flying f**k do you know about michael jackson? he probably never molested children, it was just a person who wanted his money who said that he was molesting children that came into his house. and there is no proof that he did.

look at South Park Mexican, he went to jail because he raped a 7 year old. and he didn't, no proof, no, witnesses, and the girl was paid to testify against him.. and she was at his daughter's house watching a horror movie about a guy raping little firls. and she probable dreamed she was getting RAPED. and guess what? SPM got 40 years.. when "other" serial rapists only get 7-15 years! WTF??

How does this relate in any way to the topic?

Keep on topic please.

[Fatboy_Rob]

It relates to it, because it was brought up Ghost.

[Omri]

Never been a fan of the military but in Denmark shall go to "Værne pligt" cant say the word on english when we turn 18 we are going in to try if thats something for us and if not then No
But for me I will NEVER join it.

[Aragorn]

Aragorn, I am curious. How did that conflict end? Did you ever have to do military service or anything?

Well... The opponents of Eltsin took the Government House... They called it "Dictatorship of Democracy"... There were several armed Chechen groups (Hazbulatov was Chechen) and nationalists party, they were shooting from the House... Parallel armed groups took the Mayor of Moscow Offices and Ostankino TV Tower... Plus snipers who were shooting from the roofs the windows of people's apartments... Eltsin brought tanks to defeat the revolutionists in Government House... The problem was with children, boys were running at the battlefield taking used patrons... Soldiers had to go to remove them from the fire lines... This soldiers were the main targets for revolutionists to shoot... And hostages in buildings...
The storm was done by special forces "Alpha"... Rutskoy, Hazbulatov were arrested, some of them killed, others went to prison...
Died people near TV Station as its the place of tourism and rest...

The problem was to protect revolutionists who gave up... As people were angry and mad...

I had to Army some far connections... I know very good what Army is, its latest technologies, situation, but I am not a military guy... The reason I already explained...

http://www.bellabs.ru/October93/October93-34.html

Here are pictures, if you are interested...

[Brains]

Wow, that wasnt good time...I already see Aragorn somewhere there in that mass of people.

[Legolas]

Russians do not attack - learn the f**king history idiot...

I do not  agree with Russia not, but Soviet Union yes

1: The Invasion of Poland begins at 4:40 a.m. with the German Luftwaffe attacking several targets in Poland. The Luftwaffe launches air attacks against Kraków, Łódź, and Warsaw.

17: The Soviet Union invades Poland from the east, occupying the territory east of the Curzon line as well as Białystok and Eastern Galicia.

here is all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_World_War_II_(1939)

[Jubin]

I do not  agree with Russia not, but Soviet Union yes

here is all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_World_War_II_(1939)

Legolas, Soviet Union didn't even start the war, Nazi Germany did, Soviet Union got involved.

But then again, Russia did start Livonian War.

Tsar Ivan IV demanded that the Livonian Confederation pay 40,000 talers for the Bishopric of Dorpat, based on a claim that the territory had once been owned by Russian Novgorod Republic. The dispute ended with a Russian invasion in 1558.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livonian_War

[Legolas]

Jubin i did not told that Soviet Union start WW2, it was Nazis. But my reaction was on "Russians do not attack". They attack my country. Its same country Soviet Union, now its called Russia.

I do not talk now about Georgia.

[Jubin]

Jubin i did not told that Soviet Union start WW2, it was Nazis. But my reaction was on "Russians do not attack". They attack my country. Its same country Soviet Union, now its called Russia.

Legolas, no, Soviet Union is not Russia. Soviet Union was a federal state which consisted of 15 states: Armenian SSR, Azerbaijan SSR, Byelorussian SSR, Estonian SSR, Georgian SSR, Kazakh SSR, Kirghiz SSR, Latvian SSR, Lithuanian SSR, Moldavian SSR, Russian SFSR, Tajik SSR, Turkmen SSR, Ukrainian SSR and Uzbek SSR. When Soviet Union collapsed, it just stopped existing anymore. Russia is a successor of Russian SFSR.

 :ps: When it comes for me joining the army then that's probably not gonna happen. At the moment I am waiting an invitation from Estonian army, so it would ask me to go for an medical examination. Which will show right away that I am not an army material.
Then again I have been a member of paramilitary organization Noored Kotkad (Young Eagles) which is like scouts but a bit more militaristic.

[Legolas]

The Red Army became the army of the Soviet Union. Red Army carried out an invasion of the Polish eastern territory in September 1939. The Red Army leaded by Stalin, from capitol... Moscow. These are historic facts.

[Aragorn]

Legolas

Nazi occupied all Europe... And yes, the one who could stop them and finish were Russians... They did not attack your country, They did not take any sm of your country... But they finished the Nazis...

Probably you think that it should be that Russians defeated their lands and set away waiting when Nazi will become stronger to attack again??? No... Nazi attacked Russia and Russia finished them...

Why you think USA and Great Britain joined the Red Army to finish the Nazi?

It was a f**king terrible war for all... And even here when Russians stopped this killing machine you found the reason to accuse Russia...

And NO way Russia attacked Poland in 1939... As Russia was away from war till Germany did not attack Russia... The first fight was in 1941 at Brest...

Disgusting...

[ChaNce]

Not true Ron.

The Red Army and the Nazis were about to decide how Poland should be split up. And just after those decisions the red army attacked Poland at the 23th of August in 1939.
They attacked from the North of the Dwina until the South of the Dnjestr. Soon they had a lot of Citys under their control.  But its a too long story.

[Aragorn]

But then again, Russia did start Livonian War.

Livonian orden (knights) was attacking Russia since 1242... Sweden knights then cooperation with German knights (Tevtonian Orden)... If you know Russian history should remember the Novgorod battle at Nevskoe Lake... Was leading as military troops at Russia so the political events with boyare against Novgorod Tsar...

If Litva supported this orden - it was their fault... And once again the first who attacked - Livonians against Russia...

[Legolas]

I agree... Nazi attack Russians. You defend yourself... then defeat them with USA, GB. all other i agree. But in one part im against "They did not attack your country". So how you explain this to all historics.

17: The Soviet Union invades Poland from the east, occupying the territory east of the Curzon line as well as Białystok and Eastern Galicia.

Then who attack from east? Japannese

[ChaNce]

I agree... Nazi attack Russians. You defend yourself... then defeat them with USA, GB. all other i agree. But in one part im against "They did not attack your country". So how you explain this to all historics.Then who attack from east? Japannese

Your quote is true Agent, Poland got attacked from the West by the nazis and from the East by the Soviets