The Kolta Family

[duffman]

Congratulations, Kolta

[Jaaskaa]

Dear Gvardia,

whatever you think .... I care... But it will not change the motion of earth. If you don't like the fact that Kolta is in ARUN, I cannot blame you. But still ...Do you have to come here and ask why? Is it so hard to accept that you need to come here and face us with this? ... If yes, then, I would suggest you to look at yourself and ask yourself what you are doing.

Kolta being in ARUN is not a threat to anyone because Kolta is a passive group. If you still feel attacked by the fact that a ``small little tiny group of a few of guys`` came in with such a status ... Then I officialy consider that you feel threatned. Also could I remind you that you are already a part of ARUN and therefore shouldn't see any scandalous situation into the nomination of a group of regular, long running and experienced players.

Kolta is not a law group, even if it seems so over SAMP, when Kolta assemble we play as normal citizens and we abide the laws. If we get pulled over, with roleplay it ... Its fun when you face a cop who has good manners and a way of rping. What Kolta wants to show is that you don't have to play only cop or criminal, there are more roles. Imagination is the limit.

I still cannot believe that seeing Kolta going official really shock and frustrate Gvardia or any other group. It's not like we would take your place or anything. Yet we don't allow our members to be criminals in order to don't get tagged as such, we don't forbid roleplay with people from any group. I could give a thousand reason to get Gvardia out of ARUN, but I don't do it because we are neutral. We are not here to get you closed, we are not here to create rivalries and we are not here to fight.

Once a great man (Probably Augustius in greek antiquity):
``To start a battle, you need at least two fighters.``
Yet we are not here to fight ...So good luck trying to raise up a fight if this was the intended goal.

After all, if you act all scandalized, what will it be when some groups younger, less experienced and smaller than us will join ? You will go and flame them directly or something?  (I know you weren't flaming nor did put this topic up to flame but still, I feel it is done in a provocative way...want it or not, this is all what it seems...Sorry if it wasn't the goal.)

Yet I do not understand your attitude gvardia fella ...
1- We are not a threat to you
2- We are not here to make trouble, gangwar or anything

We are on a peace mission. Yet I agree many of our members are affiliated to FBI but look at the context:

1. This group was made almost 2 years ago (celebrating it's birthday soon) when I did left FBI.
2. Many of the members from that moment were personnal friends
3. This group was made so we could actualy meet up and go into some crazy roleplay
4. The group did extend and soon became somewhat popular.
5. It became what it is now
6. Won best roleplay group over MTA:SA
7. Was proposed and accepted to join ARUN

And yet you wonder zomgwhy ...Did any Kolta do that on your topic? Yet we could have done the same thing only using different arguments but I do not believe anyone did.

I don't know how you see ARUN but I think we see it differently.

Yet if you want to pull up a debate, I don't want to do it over here. Nor anywhere anyways. It would be pointless since everyone would have his arguments and yell on each others.

As a great man once told me :

[TheRock]

Ingame Name: [WS]Tevin[AF]
Do you wish to where tag: Sure Why not.
Tell me a bit more about you: Well I am a 25 year old guy who moved to SA from VC about a yea and a some monhs ago. I live in the Hilton Hotel Rodeo Los Santos and I own a Bullet. I like to eat chicken from cluck and bell and food from Pizza Stack Co.. I am allergic to Burgers. Thats about it on me.

Apply at our forum

[Murt]

Read my previous post

Congrats for being offical Kolta's.

[Cofiliano]

Dear Jaaskaa.

What Leon is saying is his private opinion and has nothing to do, with Gvardia as a group. Don't take it to serious cause if it was otherwise you would have saw a official statement from us. I personally, and as a representative of Gvardia,  wish you and your members all the best luck in the future, and congratulations for getting official group status.

[Jaaskaa]

Okay then apologie to Gvardia in general and thank you, I look further for working in cooperation with you.

If this was the personnal opinion of one person, then I held this person responsible for his own words and accountable for it by himself. I consider you are in position to decide what you will tell Leon about this situation. Personnaly I consider this matter as an isolated case made by one person.

I do believe the people who have to take actions will take those judged necessary.

[TheRock]

And that is ?

http://kolta.50.forumer.com or http://koltafamily.tk

[Cofiliano]

I can also insure you, that Leon did not build a negative opinion on you or your group, or off your getting the official status.

He was just rather confused of the situation and statement made in this topic, cause of which he build up a wrong understanding of the whole tread , so he asked some questions that he thought would resolve his dilemma.
Unfortunately it looked badly at the end cause of the misunderstanding , but I can a sure you, that he does not have anything against any of you here, the group itself or against your newly assigned official status, since he's not that kind of guy, who goes around and judge or comment other peoples effort or groups, on the contrary , he's known of having always a neutral and logic opinion, which he didn't expressed specifically enough, cause of the confusion and misunderstanding that happen.

One more time, good luck, and see ya ingame. :P

[Jaaskaa]

Leon contacted me through pm.

We solved things out. He wasn't aware of alot of things.

Some of them are that:

1. Kolta is celebrating 2 years soon (Nice gift to join ARUN, isnt it? )

2. Our members are dedicated to the community and our goal is to keep it as such. Kolta is maybe not an admin factory but we provide our members with the necessary knoweldge, approach, view and principles to help them into developping the proper attitude to be able to become a successful admin.

3. Kolta is not just a group of people sharing a name. We are Rping together things that are not usual or less common. We also provide some ...I hate to call it education but we do educate our members into Argonath from our vision. When I was asked to expose the vision of Kolta of Argonath to Ron when we were speaking about ARUN, he saw that our main interested and our alignment was done in such a way it did fit alot into Argonath vision.

4. Ron offered to make the discussion 3ways in with him, Matute and me because Matute is co-leader and co-founder. Now this didn't happen due to schedule issues but I do believe that if one day I had to quit Matute could handle Kolta and keep the high standards we currently have.

5. Kolta have great members all around who shows clear commitment to Argonath. Admins don't get admins because they are power hungry. It's because they are committed ... And being admin isnt a piece of cake like many people think. We work alot, we don't have more advantages than players, we have more rules to follow. So no, we are not just random people who are admins for fun and that makes us Ron friends. We are Ron friends because we support the community, we support Ron and Ronnel and we show the highest respect to them. Without Ron and Ronnel, there is no Argonath and all those great people I met, I would never have met them. Think about it....

6. We never asked to join ARUN, we were offered. When we were offered, and you may check, Ron said he wanted to speak to Jaaskaa_Kolta ... This means he checked the original file and not the current one, otherwise he would have put [Rstar]Jaaskaa or just Jaaskaa. If it would have been done in a subbjective manner maybe our name wouldn't even have figured on the list and we would have appeared out of nowhere suddenly into ARUN. Plus if Ron was so biased and liked me that much, I would be community leader or something like that, which is not the case but not at all. I am a very regular manager, I have no special powers overall nor anything. I worked for my success, that's it ...

1. FBI : I joined when it was still [FBI], I worked forums and got really involved in the group. So I was made 3rd in command. Following hierarchy, at some point I became second, then, when Fernando left, 1st. When he came back I went off and came back. I worked my way back to where I am through involvement.

2. Adminship: I started as a moderator, Xcasio and Sharphis coached me, promoted me and checked my actions. They told me what to fix, how to behave and etc. Then at some point I made it to lvl 4 admin, then 5, then it became manager. I didn't went to Ron to ask him: You make me manager kk? .... He would have killed me. I did my job, that's it.

3. Kolta: I started that group for fun and to keep in touche with my friends when I left FBI. I wanted to create new projects and all. The thing became more serious and we are here now.

4. Court: I applied, got selected and by a natural elemination process I ended up being the only one standing. I took court over and re-developped it. I know it's not perfect but the way I saw it was that court was a big beast requiring alot of work. With managing, kolta, fbi ...I knew I wouldn't have alot of time to take cases so splitting court into small courtrooms was the best solution to my eyes.

I was at the right place at the right moment? Maybe ...I worked, sweared, sweated and made all I could? Yes.

That is what some people are not aware and are prompt to judge directly as soon as someone gets something.

Never have been a good stuff.

I think Leon realized that there were stuffs he didn't knew and that changed his point of view. Now that things are settled, let's party!  :hurray:

[JDC]

Now you know why I love this guy.

[Aragorn]

Nice rulling the topic Jaaskaa... And MetalLuigiX I think was just misunderstood... Sometimes we write one thing and it looks like other... 
So... When is the party? :banana:

[Rick.]

Nice rulling the topic Jaaskaa... And MetalLuigiX I think was just misunderstood... Sometimes we write one thing and it looks like other... 
So... When is the party? :banana:

Lets jam it up? 

[cumbia_chorra]

Ok, we know who'll bring the alcohol to the party, don't we?

[Cofiliano]

Maradona?

[Leon.]

Now you know why I love this guy.

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