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VC:MP - Daily situations: Administration answer

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Reply #30 on: January 28, 2018, 11:55:29 am
No, that's called a scam and a robbery.


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Reply #31 on: February 24, 2018, 12:44:35 am
Situation:
You're roleplaying with someone and so far no escalations have been made. The other party, however, without any roleplay indication of their intentions, quickly switch to M4 and headshot you outright.

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Is this considered deathmatching? If not, perhaps it should. Because this has become rather a problem and really demotivates people from roleplaying. I think that people should be required to show some sort of roleplay indication of intending to shoot before doing so to give the other party a chance to react.

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Reply #32 on: February 24, 2018, 01:43:58 am
If the interaction is "HOW ARE YOU???" and when you answer you get headshotted, it is deathmatching.

However if the scenario can consist of a shootout, which a lot of cases do, it is not a rulebreak, just a dick move to typekill people made by people who either do not want to play fair or it's the only way they can "win" for sure  :balance:


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Reply #33 on: February 24, 2018, 07:34:12 pm
If the interaction is "HOW ARE YOU???" and when you answer you get headshotted, it is deathmatching.
That all depends though, doesn't it. The scenario in which it happens is taken into account when considering if the kill was valid or not. For example, if Silent comes walking into Havana and types /l YO NARS HOW ARE YA NIGGA he is getting shot in the face, no question about it. Is it rulebreak? No its perfectly in line with the roleplay and is the response Silent should be expecting.

In response to Huntsman's question, you mention " without any roleplay indication of their intentions" and I'm wondering what you're exactly expecting? In regards to whether or not it is allowed to kill someone without first asking /em can I kill you now? then yes its perfectly fine and no you don't need to tell anyone you're about to kill them. Also, no /me action is required either as you can clearly see he pulled out an M4 and shot you, you don't need to write that down.

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Reply #34 on: February 24, 2018, 07:37:48 pm
That all depends though, doesn't it. The scenario in which it happens is taken into account when considering if the kill was valid or not. For example, if Silent comes walking into Havana and types /l YO NARS HOW ARE YA NIGGA he is getting shot in the face, no question about it. Is it rulebreak? No its perfectly in line with the roleplay and is the response Silent should be expecting.

In response to Huntsman's question, you mention " without any roleplay indication of their intentions" and I'm wondering what you're exactly expecting? In regards to whether or not it is allowed to kill someone without first asking /em can I kill you now? then yes its perfectly fine and no you don't need to tell anyone you're about to kill them. Also, no /me action is required either as you can clearly see he pulled out an M4 and shot you, you don't need to write that down.

Hope this answers your question.

I am talking about a situation that most officers have to face, and I've risen this question because I've been receiving a lot of complaints from my officers about being treated that way.

To be more specific of the scenario, there's a 911, a cop comes and investigates, and tries to simply roleplay instead of turning the situation into some sort of deathmatching fest. As he's trying to negotiate, one of the participates from the other side of the fence quickly draws M4 and headshots him. and the "you can see M4 in sight" argument is really bull.. It is a matter of half a second before switching from fists to assault rifle and shooting. Happened more than once.

This would be a good example, refer to 4:16:

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Reply #35 on: February 24, 2018, 07:47:34 pm
It's not bull, and I believe Kessu can give a lesson to those who want to know how to avoid type kills.

Despite the amount of advantages cops have, one small disadvantage cops have is that they'll always have to react to a situation, and try to predict a move the criminals may take. Criminals will always get the first shot in, since cops can't shoot unless they've been shot at. If the criminal is smart he'll make the first shot count, and that usually means either an attempt at an M4 HS or a shotgun blast from close range to instant kill a cop. Cops have to be on their toes all the time and be ready for such situations. If you get killed, then unlucky you got decked. It's not all doom and gloom though is it as you can return and can do as many times as it takes.



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Reply #36 on: February 24, 2018, 07:49:20 pm
Yeah well, imo it was perfectly fine, since almost all the cops were asking for the suspect to surrender(who was our ally), the reason I shot was because I happened to overhear Sevrin saying "sus the other bastards"(you can see in the chatbox of the video), which in turn provoked us for a shootout, but hell. I'm not really sure what I did was legit or a rule-break.


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Reply #37 on: May 02, 2018, 01:51:24 pm
Situation:Two people A and B are wanted. They are in little Havana and C is also present with them. When a cop arrives to deal with A and B, C, who is intending to aid them, runs away from that area. Then when both A and B are dead, C comes back and kills the cop without interaction.
Question: Is this sort of aiding allowed? Because C engaged in combat after A and B died and without RP.

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Reply #38 on: May 02, 2018, 06:38:12 pm
That would be deathmatching since he was not involved with the cops at all.

He would need to roleplay the retaliation with the officer(s) in question.


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Reply #39 on: January 20, 2019, 04:15:35 pm
Should a player start a shootout if he knows damn well he might not be able to finish it, resulting in quitting in the middle of it under the excuse of a real life situation just as he's about to get capped?   :neutral:

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Reply #40 on: January 23, 2019, 12:37:10 am
To your first question, this cannot always be avoided as not everything can be foreseen unfortunately, but if a player fears he may need to leave shortly he is best to notify an administrator as soon as possible so they are aware of the situation. To your second question, any time someone quits moments before being killed is death-evasion and is handled by administration on a case by case basis. If no administration are ingame to handle the situation, please send video evidence to [email protected] and the scenario will be investigated.


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Reply #41 on: June 26, 2019, 07:36:13 pm
Situation: For some real life urgency, while wanted, I gone afk but let my game opened to get killed or auto jailed, making every players aware that I am going afk.
Question: Is this a rulebreak even I let the game opened to get myself killed? I have heard in a unban appeal that if you have a real life problem, you should let yourself getting killed or get jailed quickly but I choosed the first option so I kept the game open and let myself getting killed. Is this still a rulebreak?



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Reply #42 on: June 26, 2019, 09:52:51 pm
Situation: For some real life urgency, while wanted, I gone afk but let my game opened to get killed or auto jailed, making every players aware that I am going afk.
Question: Is this a rulebreak even I let the game opened to get myself killed? I have heard in a unban appeal that if you have a real life problem, you should let yourself getting killed or get jailed quickly but I choosed the first option so I kept the game open and let myself getting killed. Is this still a rulebreak?
You cannot go AFK while you are wanted.

You were temporarily banned because you could not be killed or jailed without admin assistance.


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Reply #43 on: February 05, 2020, 11:00:19 am
Situation: Trading accounts
Question: Are we allowed to give our account to someone else? (complete ownership)


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Reply #44 on: February 05, 2020, 12:22:57 pm
Situation: Trading accounts
Question: Are we allowed to give our account to someone else? (complete ownership)
Your account will be your responsibility. Now and forever.

If someone else breaks rules on your account, we will ban every account linked to all parties involved in the rulebreak. Not to mention that if we see another player using someone else's account, we will ban the account on breach-of-account assumption regardless of what you've told us.

Short answer: No.


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