My opinion..

[Oliver]

Ok, your first three points actually changed my mind.
However, I want to clear something here.

Yes, a few people call others non-RPers, but nobody wants to ban them. We simply don't want them to disturb roleplayers during their roleplay situations.
You know how long it takes to meet up with more than 3 people? If an officer / random citizen spots a group of people on the radar, they keep stalking the group.
I mean, what is that? The officers is looking for a reason to suspect the group of people, to have a little fun with his beloved UZI & the randon citizens play the clown, walk up to the gangs and randomly beat some members without a reason or insult them. They want to f**k up the roleplay situation in any case, on the other hand there are people who don't do it. So don't come with this argument again that I hate all cops or something like that. There are cops who can actually roleplay very very good and who might also check out the situation, but they keep distance and remain calm and leave after they saw nothing special is going on. Those people who disturb the "aggressive" roleplay, how you called it Grz, are forcing themselves into the story, because the gang / group doesn't give a f**k about them.

Heh, your story reminds me of myself about a month ago :P .

Anyways, I don't like that mobster DM.
Example: Me, Michael Montana and 2 Montana associates were driving my white Stafford from Montana HQ to Los Santos to just hang out and maybe plan some crime. We get caught up by a bunch of Corleones who start ramming our car so we pull over. One of them of course rammed the car somewhere far away with only 1 hit and the Corleones, a Burrow and a [SM] member started aiming at me for no particular reason. They killed us all. I asked David Corleone in PM later about why the Corleones like to DM so much and he ansewered that the Montanas killed one of his friends a while ago and they were looking for revenge. I can understand that, BUT how did they know how to find us? (they were driving towards us) How did they see that we are Montanas? Do they have eagle-eyes?
This is not a complaint, but an upcall to Corleones to stop DMing, because that was not RP at all.

About the "forced RP", I ALWAYS ask people OOC if they have time for a kidnap when I am about to kidnap them. If they say "no" I usually settle for a robbery or a Scarface quote.
There's also metagaming, the thing I hate most on the server.

[ChaNce]

Dave, you play Argonath 1 year longer than me, but I can say that I really f**king know mostly everything about every kind of RP:

From Gangsta to MOB RP, from Medic to Cop RP, from Trashmasterdriver to Cabdriver RP.
And yeah maybe my RP skills shouldnt be used in this server, maybe you are right, but I simply lost the "Free-Rp-Abillity" of Argonath.
Im not writing things like: WTF OMFG ADMIN PLZ HELP in /l chat, /l chat is for me pure IC, if I write ooc i use "))"

So where is your problem?
And Im f**king sick of idiots coming up to our gang, while we are RPing a brawl and shout : DMER /report ? You know how I answer? Go f**k yourselves and get out of here if you dont know how to RP. Its really annoying to see guys playing the Mini-Moderator.
I open my mouth against everyone here ,You can warn me or whatever , but I wont refrain from my arguements.

If they cry about RPing a flame or a shootout, dont RP with us? We dont need you guys.
Seriously..just leave the Gang Rpers alone if you have no clue what RP is.

[Dave]

Actually i was driving normally through the one way road and one of you guys hit my car with a baseball bat a few times, i drove on. I needed to drive through again and i saw a lot of you guys covering the road. I am not going to let you guys hit my car again for absolutely no reason so i drove on fast, that's what you get for hitting anyone who has a non gangsta white skin, because that's what you guys do. Randomly attacking any car that drives past and insulting anyone who drives it, that's non-rp.

And another thing; You guys think it somehow makes you a good roleplayer if you add more apostrophes to your sentence, Like
"    I' sho' dem' nigga' 'who' gangsta'  "
No, it doesn't. And you're a far way from a good roleplayer.

The advanced punctuation makes them look more intelligent.

Dave, you play Argonath 1 year longer than me, but I can say that its really f**king know mostly everything about every kind of RP:

From Gangsta to MOB RP, from Medic to Cop RP, from Trashmasterdriver to Cabdriver RP.
And yeah maybe my RP skills shouldnt be used in this server, maybe you are right, but I simply lost the "Free-Rp-Abillity" of Argonath.
Im not writing things like: WTF OMFG ADMIN PLZ HELP in /l chat, /l chat is for me pure IC, if I write ooc i use "))"

So where is your problem?
And Im f**king sick of idiots coming up to our gang, while we are RPing a brawl and shout : DMER /report ? You know how I answer? Go f**k yourselves and get out of here if you dont know how to RP. Its really annoying to see guys playing the Mini-Moderator.
I open my mouth against everyone here ,You can warn me or whatever , but I wont refrain from my arguements.

If they cry about RPing a flame or a shootout, dont RP with us? We dont need you guys.
Seriously..just leave the Gang Rpers alone if you have no clue what RP is.

I'll spell it out for you. Bee You Ell Ell     Ess H Aye Tee.

[ChaNce]

Maybe you think so, maybe your imagination of perfect RP are different.
Tell me, what is your imagination of perfect RP?

And you know something? I dont care of what a person is in Argonath...I have the same respect for RON as I have for Olari. Everyone is same for me, but not for the rest of yall.

[Dave]

Maybe you think so, maybe your imagination of perfect RP are different.
Tell me, what is your imagination of perfect RP?

And you know something? I dont care of what a person is in Argonath...I have the same respect for RON as I have for Olari. Everyone is same for me, but not for the rest of yall.

I belive everyone is equal. Everyone except you. You are the most arrogant single minded idiot I have ever met in my life.

Your title. "Argonath's Finest". Total bullshit. I have seen better than you in this seerver and there are better than you. Alot better. You are the only person I have seen who uses forced RP constantly. Get a new version of RP and vary it a bit.

[9r2e5i3k]

From Gangsta to MOB RP, from Medic to Cop RP, from Trashmasterdriver to Cabdriver RP.

No one ever said that you have to play only one role. On MTA:VC it's usually one spawn - one role. And no one whines about non-roleplay, since people are roleplaying.

And Im f**king sick of idiots coming up to our gang, while we are RPing a brawl and shout : DMER /report ? You know how I answer? Go f**k yourselves and get out of here if you dont know how to RP. Its really annoying to see guys playing the Mini-Moderator.
I open my mouth against everyone here ,You can warn me or whatever , but I wont refrain from my arguements.

Use OOC. Talk to admins that you would like to roleplay a brawl and they will probably even spectate you to make sure it's all fair and no one gets in your way. So it's your fault that your brawls don't work out.
Instead, you prefer to lock yourself up in a closed world and bash everyone that collides. That's how you make problems (and get nervous breakdowns).


And take out the flaming or you will loose the chance to argue and throw out your pain and increase your post count. 9r2e5i3k.

[Dave]

If they cry about RPing a flame or a shootout, dont RP with us? We dont need you guys.
Seriously..just leave the Gang Rpers alone if you have no clue what RP is.

If it wasn't for us, the veterans, the people who kept comming back and playing at the server. The people who supported the server through harsh times. There would be no Argonath.


At one point. Argonath was going to finish on MTA, right there and then. But the regulars, the veterans and new guys supported Argonath and got it back up to #1.

[Troy]

I think this topic is getting a little out of hand.
I'd rarther have it locked than for it go on like this..
It was only ment to be my opinion, weather you would agree with me or not.

[Dave]

I think this topic is getting a little out of hand.
I'd rarther have it locked than for it go on like this..
It was only ment to be my opinion, weather you would agree with me or not.

We are discussing your opinion. Only a bit more in depth than first imagined.

[ChaNce]

I belive everyone is equal. Everyone except you. You are the most arrogant single minded idiot I have ever met in my life.

Your title. "Argonath's Finest". Total bullshit. I have seen better than you in this seerver and there are better than you. Alot better. You are the only person I have seen who uses forced RP constantly. Get a new version of RP and vary it a bit.

You know why? Because you never met anyone else in your life except your E-Friends of Argonath.
KK enough on your level.
You are takng it serious right? I want to discuss. Title -> You really care of it? Fine I remove it for you, if you stop crying.
Why are you flipping out? I'm arrogant? Yes I am, why? Lack of RP, no one cares of it here? Im fine with it, LET US PLAY OUR GANGSTA RP. Ask everyone in the Gang Nation if they have a problem with our style of RP ? I bet everyone will say its fine how we do, BECAUSE? We actually took the few RPers of Argonath who are able to RP a gangsta. We roleplay under ourselves like I said, we dont have problems with Crips and Bloods ,if we have we report it to the leaders, and the problems get solved.
The only persons we report are guys like you acting tought infront of a big bunch of guys, driving us over with a Stafford, because they want to "set signs".

[JayL]

ChaNce, you're very funny, ain't you? You know to organize a brawl very well maybe, I don't know, but what about

Talk to admins that you would like to roleplay a brawl and they will probably even spectate you to make sure it's all fair and no one gets in

You see? If you Mr. Gangsta Celebrity can't be bothered to ask a medium/high-level administrator to help preventing people to ruin the brawl, then don't argue here when someone comes to play Mini-Moderator or whatever you want to cry about.

Also, the fact that you're judging others' RP once your members can't RP for shit, it's REAL FUNNY. 

Let me give you an example of Mr. Eug's actions when we attacked him on bloods turf:

- Bringing a Sniper Rifle to fight (after he ran, came to ammu-nation and headed back to counter-attack)
- Hijacking a random car to escape without a single /me
- Z-running

I suggest you to teach your own group to RP before spreading shit on others' RP.

EDIT:

everyone in the Gang Nation if they have a problem with our style of RP ? I bet everyone will say its fine how we do, BECAUSE? We actually took the few RPers of Argonath who are able to RP a gangsta. We roleplay under ourselves like I said, we dont have problems with Crips and Bloods ,if we have we report it to the leaders, and the problems get solved.

I disagree. I personally think some of your members should really improve.

[CM Daniel]

Heh, your story reminds me of myself about a month ago :P .

Anyways, I don't like that mobster DM.
Example: Me, Michael Montana and 2 Montana associates were driving my white Stafford from Montana HQ to Los Santos to just hang out and maybe plan some crime. We get caught up by a bunch of Corleones who start ramming our car so we pull over. One of them of course rammed the car somewhere far away with only 1 hit and the Corleones, a Burrow and a [SM] member started aiming at me for no particular reason. They killed us all. I asked David Corleone in PM later about why the Corleones like to DM so much and he ansewered that the Montanas killed one of his friends a while ago and they were looking for revenge. I can understand that, BUT how did they know how to find us? (they were driving towards us) How did they see that we are Montanas? Do they have eagle-eyes?
This is not a complaint, but an upcall to Corleones to stop DMing, because that was not RP at all.

First of all, it was me who you called. We forced the Montana vehicle to stop, just like the Montanas forced to stop my members. We found the Montanas the same way the Montanas found my members. We attacked the Montanas the same way the Montanas attacked my members.

Do we have eagle eyes? Yes, we do. So do you.
Do we DM? No, we don't. Business is business. Don't f**k with my members.

[ChaNce]

John...either admins dont have time or seriously just not respond, because they are busy with Cop-RP.

John I know where you played, and I know your Roleplayabilitly for the Gang Nation, but the others didnt, and I for myself as a single leader am NOT able to WATCH nor TEACH every single member what to do. If you have problems with the gang report it on the forums.
People get punished for it.

@ John, we cant force the style of RP from LS-RP to get here to Argonath, people are used to RP chilled, so I dont overgo this situation.

And guys, I dont think this discussion has to go way out of hand, because everyone has a different oppinion about Roleplay, I for myself like, how Carhartt calls it "Hardcore-RP" others do like "Chilled-Free-RP", but then I really beg you guys, do not interferr our GangRP with your "other style of RP", thats all what I want. If you dont like it, just leave us alone.

[Matthew_Mcbride]

Also, the fact that you're judging others' RP once your members can't RP for shit, it's REAL FUNNY. 

:O nice mouth admin

[Carhartt]

And another thing; You guys think it somehow makes you a good roleplayer if you add more apostrophes to your sentence, Like
"    I' sho' dem' nigga' 'who' gangsta'  "
No, it doesn't. And you're a far way from a good roleplayer.

Correct punctuation looks simply better than "z0mg, lawl, wtf, u, r, plz" in my opinion and it is called S-L-A-N-G, nobody ever claimed that it is better roleplay.

I belive everyone is equal. Everyone except you. You are the most arrogant single minded idiot I have ever met in my life.

Your title. "Argonath's Finest". Total bullshit. I have seen better than you in this seerver and there are better than you. Alot better. You are the only person I have seen who uses forced RP constantly. Get a new version of RP and vary it a bit.

That has nothing to do with the argument.
I have also seen people who are much better than you, me, Grzesiek or anyone else in this topic, so?