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[POLL] Do all people have equal voice rights?

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Reply #90 on: January 18, 2009, 01:16:21 am
Yet you don't give him a single warning and this actually proves admins get listened to by main admins more then others do, so when your an admin its a win win situation you can easily lie and get away with alot of shit. I hate lionz and he is a great example..

Nope. As far as I could see that is not true. Any accusation made by an admin is checked atleast twice - I myself had to deal with a simillar situation. I can talk to admins and get a better reaction out of them that some moderators can alotof the time. Probably because i've been here for a while. Plus I can talk to Ronnel and get a response fast, but if someone other than me would have done the same thing it would be delayed. This may be just a coninsidense, or it is proven that if you are here longer and/or are an admin you get a better say in most things. Personally I agreee with this, admins sometimes get more voice rights than others, but it also depends on your status in the community. I'm not saying admins would go to great lengths to do something for anyone, but in one or two cases, RON has went to some lengths to help me get =AV= and myself at one point ot of some very deep problematic shit...



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Reply #91 on: January 18, 2009, 02:23:05 am
I was posting some quotes ( YES QUOTES are not sentences by me). I was in the Neutral position. I was NEVER saying that I am agreeing with those quotes.
Doesn't matter ChaNce, you just find some quote you find to flame Argonath, post it and then it's ok? It's like posting a quote saying Argonath is a bunch of retards.. oh no.. you posted quotes similiar.. So dont whine.. and excuse yourself, when you can't have an excuse.. specially with THE kind of excuse that is quoted under:
"urge of a forum mod"


My opinion on this matter:
Seing what this topic turned into..
At first, only a few rulebreaked, used glitches, etc.. Then some saw it as a opportunity.. They took it, they started to rulebreak, using glitches, getting unfare advantage against other players without hacking.
The victims of the situation above learned to fight back, using the same methods, till then noone had advantage, and started to complaint. People come ingame annoyed and pissed off, and when a new player does something wrong, let's say rulebreak, wether because he doesn't know or just wants to, the veteran players report, screams on the chat.
This new player becomes a veteran in Argonath. thou he is still hated from actions from the past, getting flamed everyday.. and flaming back everyday.
Mafias/Gangs that are enemys hate so much eachother, not only IC, but also OOC, losing to a rival will mean reporting and whining for everything and nothing(Just because you are too damn proud to lose..)
Players don't respect other players, except respecting admins, wether because they want to achieve something greater(it has another name..), because they just like admins or because they are just afraid of correct admin punishment for disrespecting.
Some don't even respect admins and flame admins. Players that respect admins, start to hate these players that flame admins, making these players a constant target for flame, of course, they always fight back(flame wars).
So, if All people have equal voice rights.. It's up to you.. You started ignoring some and listening to others. You started flaming, you flamed back, you couldn't just keep it cool.
Will you keep it? Up to you, because it's like my teachers say: "The pope can come, the president, prime minister, but if a student doesn't want to study, nothing can make him do it."
It's on the hands of players, to get our old and beloved Argonath and friendly players back, not on the hands of the admin team.


- This is not directed to every player in Argonath, if you look in the mirror and notice some of these stated above:
Think about it...

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Reply #92 on: January 18, 2009, 03:52:39 am
Good post Razor :D

Yeah, I have a shady past of flaming (Banned 4 times) I have learned to just stay outta main chat for most of my play unless its a topic I care about.

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Reply #93 on: January 18, 2009, 10:52:55 am
I don't think all people have equal rights...and it shouldn't be like that, but there are some people who dont deserve it. And Gille, I couldn't give a f**k, you are muted and with the bad reputation, not me.

On topic, i think that some things must change in Argonath, respect to all people being 1.

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Reply #94 on: January 18, 2009, 06:01:22 pm
I don't think all people have equal rights...and it shouldn't be like that, but there are some people who dont deserve it. And Gille, I couldn't give a f**k, you are muted and with the bad reputation, not me.

On topic, i think that some things must change in Argonath, respect to all people being 1.


I rest my case.......

You may hate someone with your whole heart, but that doesnt mean you cant show them respect. That goes for everyone on here, like a player may hate another player, and theres probroly 100 different enemys to each other on Argonath. You dont like him because he cant RP, or because he flamed you before. It doesnt matter, you show them respect for exisiting, if nothing else.





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Reply #95 on: January 19, 2009, 12:41:05 am
I rest my case.......

You may hate someone with your whole heart, but that doesnt mean you cant show them respect. That goes for everyone on here, like a player may hate another player, and theres probroly 100 different enemys to each other on Argonath. You dont like him because he cant RP, or because he flamed you before. It doesnt matter, you show them respect for exisiting, if nothing else.




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Reply #96 on: January 19, 2009, 03:45:43 am
Did I say I hated him, Matthew? Hate is a very strong word, I just said that I could not care less that he is going all over the forums saying 'I hate lionz.' :lol:

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Reply #97 on: January 21, 2009, 01:32:15 pm
"Everyone has equal voice rights, I dont see a problem with this."

No comment at all, one sentece is enough as above

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Reply #98 on: January 21, 2009, 01:37:33 pm
Everyone doesnt have voice rights
When u were admin u get asslicked, and when u become non-admin u get disrespected abit

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Reply #99 on: January 21, 2009, 01:48:56 pm
Everyone doesnt have voice rights
When u were admin u get asslicked, and when u become non-admin u get disrespected abit

Lock the topic

Depends for which reason you become non-admin. ;)

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Reply #100 on: January 21, 2009, 02:12:33 pm
If you resigned you still get disrespected, although you would be disrespected a little more if you were kicked from the Admins team.

The most important part is interacting with others and meeting people from around the world.

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Reply #101 on: January 21, 2009, 02:25:02 pm
I meant the bad ppl
They asslick to punish for non-reasons



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Reply #102 on: January 22, 2009, 09:58:07 am
Let's face it, over half the community are asslickers, I am proud to say that I have never asslicked anyone on Argonath. Really, if you dont believe me, fine, it's your choice.

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Reply #103 on: January 22, 2009, 12:37:31 pm
I don't think all people have equal rights...and it shouldn't be like that.
On topic, i think that some things must change in Argonath, respect to all people being 1.

One up, Why do you think I tried to do months ago with the Roleplay Guide?

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Reply #104 on: January 22, 2009, 02:03:03 pm
What is to asslick? Is it...?


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