Meta gaming (New examples for new Scripts)

[BlackBird]

There's a few people who should re-learn what meta gaming is.
For example, Say i am impersonating a FBI agent, a real FBI agent walks up and suspects you without doing anything, This is considered meta gaming as it is using outside knowledge to effect role play.
The exact definition of meta gaming is "meta gaming is a term often used to describe players' use of assumed characteristics of the game. In particular, meta gaming often refers to having a character act on knowledge that only the player has access to" Thus, the real FBI agent wouldn't walk up and suspect within five seconds for "impersonating Federal agent" he would do investigating, or just assume he was a real agent.
On to the next example, I'm still impersonating a Federal Agent, a Free cop stops me and asks for my id badge to run it through the database.
Any street officer who is not enlisted in the FBI would not do this as they have no authority, If they found something suspicious you report it to the FBI, who would then investigate it.

This is coming around as new scripts are in beta, as some know you can buy FBI and other ARPD skins. I hope this helps some people 

[Jaaskaa]

If you use your head, you may understand that people have different faces and that in small organizations, everyone knows each others... Also, when someone don't know what is going on over police radio, then, this is even more at the concerned group ease. No, seriously, think about it ... Example  : An hockey team ... one random guy enter in the player room dressed like other players ... they look at him and are like wtf are you doing here dude ? Now imagine the guy show up when even the General Director of the team is there.... He will be turned around very fast...

Another example : A guy take a police uniform, he goes around for a while and suddenly other cops try to become suspicious because of his behaviour ... But they are sooooo many that it takes time ... now this is logic ...

So there isn't only the guy playing his role but the others that are there. The smaller an organization is, the harder it is to infiltrate, especialy when the person does not behave or isn't supposed to be somewhere or such ...

Acting like there is no communication is a group is probably the worst thing ever and then coming and going about metagaming and personnal tragedies fail stories is rather a disgust, especialy for people who know with who they work.... Trying to dance without legs is a kiss to the ground...

[BlackBird]

FBI IRL is a country wide organization, If FBI from New York go to Florida for a assignment, of course no one is gonna know them, if people took the time to roleplay it out instead of automatically suspecting and shooting the whole idea that admins hd of impersonating a officer or agent would work.
But people who see someone and immediatly suspct for "OMG PHAIL FALSE FBI AGENT" as one said,then it basically spits in the faces of people who try to roleplay and the developers who worked hard on the script for this idea and many others to be possible.
Switch shoes with me jaaskaa, Say im the FBI Agent and your impersonating one.
i see you, i pull you over/stop you i ask why i've never seen you around and proceed to investigate, i roleplay going back to HQ and looking you up in the database or w/e and find out. Then i see you again after i figured out your not really a FBI agent, i stop you and then take you in for questioning, then i jail you for impersonating a officer.
OR....i could meta game such as follows. : I see you around and immediatly /su impersonating Federal agent. get out of the car, and immediatly shoot you dead where you stand (Cause honestly when i Rp a fake FBI agent im always carrying a SMG).

Now which seems like the more reasonable approach? Actually roleplaying it, or meta gaming it and losing the respect of players for it.
REMEMBER KIDS META GAMING ISNT KOOL 

But honestly, It's more fun if people actually rolepaly instead of "/su OMG PHAIL FAKE COP IVE NEVER SEN YOU BEFORE!!!!!!"

[JayL]

Argonath. Is. Not. A. Full of freshness and retard. RLRPG. server.

[BlackBird]

Argonath. Is. Not. A. Full of freshness and retard. RLRPG. server.

Neither is it a Meta Game rpg server.
The Real life instances where examples.

If you dont have anything constructive to say  please .... ...

[Jaaskaa]

Who is metagaming and ignoring the game limit then ? Ok, Corleone is a world wide organization, why I cant use Corleone name ? Tag protected ? REMOVE TAG PROTECTION OMAI !!!! ...

The other thing ur saying here is : Dear Jaaskaa, you seem to be stupid enough to don't know who you hire ...  

In other terms, you say LOLOLOL FBI SHOULD ACT LIKE THEY GOT 1 billion employee but if 1 person tries to use Corleone tag OMG BAN BAN BAN OMAI OMAI !!! ....  

Do you consider other players as idiots or something ? Ok ... I take your example and I apply it to SAPD ... SAPD is a unique name probably ... So if you try to be a SAPD impersonnator, because lets not avoid the word, its impersonnating, and that the recruiter goes infront of you, the guy that knows everyone and that recruited and trained each guys, go in front of you and su you, its the end of the world again ? But SAPD dont have employees nation wide ...

Btw, Argonath isnt a USA state, its a totaly different nation with its own flag and its own money ... Maybe that FBI name are just ... I dont know ... some hazard ... or maybe ... Are you taking this a bit too wide ? ....

Btw, your argument don't make sense, if a new agent is deployed in another state, because lets suppose here, yes we got far in your fantasy to prove you at which point it don't make sense unfortunately, well, that agent gotta report to the director, who was avised of his presence by a phone call or a message ...

And now, just to show you how FBI is local, the leading member of it is called the director, which should be a nationwide unique title ... Which recognise the unique characteristics of Argonath.

LONG LIFE TO ARGONATH

[JayL]

No, thank you. 
I c.b.a. to waste my time doing what you try to demand me anyway.

If FBI from New York go to Florida for a assignment, of course no one is gonna know them

As far as I know a part of each division is aware whenever that happens.

it basically spits in the faces of people who try to roleplay and the developers who worked hard on the script for this idea and many others to be possible.

The fact that you enjoy doing it only because it allows you to shoot cops / get suspected fast spits on the developers' faces.

i see you, i pull you over/stop you i ask why i've never seen you around and proceed to investigate, i roleplay going back to HQ and looking you up in the database or w/e and find out. Then i see you again after i figured out your not really a FBI agent, i stop you and then take you in for questioning, then i jail you for impersonating a officer.

No sorry that won't be possible.

Even if we take 50 minutes "RPing" searching if you are really faking or not, you'll start killing (or I'd say DMing) cops and running away then keep doing the same thing every 5 minutes... That is no doubt very RP, right?

But honestly, It's more fun if people actually rolepaly instead of "/su OMG PHAIL FAKE COP IVE NEVER SEN YOU BEFORE!!!!!!"

But honestly, it's more fun if people do it seriously and with a decent interval instead of doing it only because it allows them to shoot and kill cops like crazy and then doing it over and over again after every 5 minutes...

[BlackBird]

No, thank you. 

As far as I know a part of each division is aware whenever that happens.

The fact that you enjoy doing it only because it allows you to shoot cops / get suspected fast spits on the developers' faces.

No sorry that won't be possible.

Even if we take 50 minutes "RPing" searching if you are really faking or not, you'll start killing (or I'd say DMing) cops and running away then keep doing the same thing every 5 minutes... That is no doubt very RP, right?

But honestly, it's more fun if people do it seriously and with a decent interval instead of doing it only because it allows them to shoot and kill cops like crazy and then doing it over and over again after every 5 minutes...

1. Thats not always true, And if roleplayed properly and people actually decide to not be Pr***s about anything, then it could be setup to actually roleplaye then anything is possible, as you say " This is not real life"

2. i never Dmed while using FBI SKin, myself, lava, cane, Tooth_Fairy, and a few others where roleplaying a narcotics finding when a freecop and arpd officer came up and started to ruin it with "Omg phail fake fbi" again.

3. Same as above, i never Dmed, If anything should be considered DM it would be you and other officer and agents randomly shooting without asking surrender and investigating

4. Same as last two, I Never Dmed nor did any of the others roleplaying, you and jaaskaa are missing the point.

The point was that even if you get caught, the idea of the matter is to roleplay not /su "OMG PHAIL FAKE COP". People dont come to the server to be abused by meta gamers and money grubbers, they come to roleplay, cause it's fun and a escape from reality, being abused jsut isnt fun at all, esspecially when your trying your hardest to roleplay and some FBI agents and freecops roll up and immeadatly suspect you for once again "OMG PHAIL FAKE COP". im pretty sure that wasnt the idea the developers had in mind when implementing this idea.

Jaaska As far as the impersonating Corleone, You can, If you roleplay it properly, Plenty of people do it without /changename. you get a nice suit, walk up to a member depending who it is and say "im a cloe friend of the "family" "
You are jsut taking this to far, as i said above, the idea is to roleplay, not to be abused and get frustrated about it.

Ok your the director, Big Deal!!!!!!
"OMG IM FBI Director i can do whatever the f*ck i want cause im the law, OMG i dont know these guys, kill them!"
again if you actually decide to roleplay then this wouldnt be a issue. with every thing that has been added this has added more oppurtunities, argonath is expanding making the possibilities endless, so quit acting like im against argo, im not.

[Oliver]

Dark, get your facts right before starting to beef with someone.

[Pancher]

There is no rules that dissalow or allows metagaming  :trust: ?

[Gimli]

Metagaming is allowed, as is powergaming (to an extent).

[BlackBird]

Metagaming is allowed, as is powergaming (to an extent).

I Know this, but my point is as i stated above -_-
This jsut ruins the fun for people.
as does powergaming

Dark, get your facts right before starting to beef with someone.

You get your facts straight, i didnt start a beef with anyone, This may have ben directed to someone, But i didnt mention names, The people chose to start a beef with me

[ChaNce]

Metagaming is allowed, as is powergaming (to an extent).

Oh , I am sorry Gimli, RIGHT this server was called Argonath Freeroam server! Sorry, forgot that!

[Bianconeri]

i hate metagaming/powergaming, its poor RP,

today we had a bank robbery,
we were inside the LS bank, on the stairways down to the vault,
its a small place where nobody could see us,
but the suspects started shooting and shouting at us,
while they couldnt know we were there

abuse of radar and all.
makes cop work harder, since you cant sneak up

[Merc]

E-money hungry new members of the server :devroll: