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Reply #30345 on: December 18, 2012, 01:20:12 am
Gvardia Mob Application
In-Game Name: Travis
In-Game Age: 23
Age in real life: 15
List previous names you used: Travis_Genovese, [SoS]Travis
How long you been playing on Argonath? Since June or July 2012
Do you have license and passport? Both
List assets you own(house,car,bizz): House, Car
Were you invited to join Gvardia, by who? Dr.Jarome said "We're always looking for new talent."
How active are you? Very, depending on school.
In which time of day, do you play(CET)? 4:30-11 weekdays, weekends- depends on when I'm awake
How much criminal experience do you have? Decent amount
Reasons for joining Gvardia? I've always wanted to join it since I started playing.
Your opinion on your RP knowledge? Good amount
What things are you specialized in? A lot, Drug selling/making, Driving, completing
tasks

List previous mafias/gangs/clans you've been in: BaLLaS, SoS, Genovese, Bonanno,
Costello

Have you read ALL Gvardia Mob rules?: Yes
Do you understand our rules of roleplay, NOT USING OOC/IC, not using brackets, spelling in chat, etc?: Yes
If accepted, what will your name be with _GvardiaT tag? Stephan_GvardiaT
Write a decent character story, to show us how serious into RP you are.
(character story must be 500 words or more)

"The old life"
   I had a very how you say, depressing childhood. My mother died a day after my birth, and on my 10th

birthday, my dad was stabbed to death. After that I was changed, I didn't talk to too many people and if I did it

was with the wrong croud. In my late teens I had discovered that a member of a gang had killed my father, I wanted

revenge. When I had "tricked" my friends into stealing his car, I walked in and shot the man 6 times in the chest. I

spent 3 years in Juvi before I broke out, with the help of some friends. I then took the first flight to the states

ASAP.

"The new city"
   When I arrived in Los Santos International Airport, I met an old family friend. He was apart of the Genovese

crime family, and he wanted to show me around on behalf of the family. After dinner with this family, we left to

meet the Don. He told me to never speak out of turn, unless I want to be disrespected in all of Los Santos. I agreed

and walked in, there he was, the don standing in the nicest suit and tie I had ever seen next to his body guards. 

He then issued them off and asked me for a drink and offered me a seat. I then sat and grabbed my glass of whiskey.

We sat there in a moment of silence before the don said "So, I've been told that your a trust worthy man.", I then

looked up at Stefan. I said "I've been known to be." and glanced at the movement outside the windows. The don asked

me to tell him what I saw. I then described three cars full of an enemy family, with shotguns, MP5's, and M4's

approach the main door.

"The induction"
   It was only 5 minutes after I had told him this, almost all of the family members had came up to the dons

room. He handed me a vest and a mp5 and said to shoot anyone that wasn't in a suit. I was shocked to have him do

this, and on top of that I have never used more than a .45 handgun. So I walked out and took a corner and looked

down the sights and waited. Under me I could here gunshots and screams, I almost ran down the stairs and shot them,

but I saw someones silhoutte on the wall next to the stairwell. I peaked around the corner and saw a man comming up

the stairs, I turned and before he could pull out his handgun I shot him. I then was staring at the body, ready for

more. After that guy I saw, more and more silhouttes of men popped up on the wall. I then took out my MP5 and

sprayed in that area.

"Exiled"
     I was ratted out by someone in the family short after the incedent. I was jailed and asked questions. The

family had thought I turned myself in and ratted out the entire family. They had been hunted and jailed, as the Don

was never jailed. The don did have connections to the police, and set up a meeting with me, and paid my way out.

When I met him there were about 5 cops around me and the Don. The don asked me "Why?". I asked him "Why, what? I

haven't done anything to this family.". He then shot me twice, one in the left thigh and another in the stomach

area. I laid on the ground for about an hour in hope my friend would come. I then saw my friends who helped me out

of jail. I didn't know they had come to San Andreas in search of me. We went back to his place in Queens, San

Fierro. He then introduced me to the new big family, the Gvardia family.


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Reply #30347 on: December 18, 2012, 07:10:57 am
Two pics from start of today's RP. I hope someone will update for more.





Dope pictures!

Im happy for you Tony!  :hoor: I will try to pop ig more often.

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Reply #30348 on: December 18, 2012, 04:18:16 pm
Cofi perhaps you need to see your own mistakes before pointing at others. You were as admin increasingly using your powers for your own good instead of the good of the server. That is why you got demoted, it has nothing to do with the opinions of others.
The same goed for any other member here who wishes to believe its the admins who are against them. Do not break rules and you will not get punished. It is as simple as that.
First thing, none of this has anything to do with my moderator status. I unlike some, have no problem in admiting my mistakes, and accepting then, and as Im sure you might know(or not), I was talked out two times when I wanted to give my moderator resignation in the past, before my moderator status was gone.

Second thing, no one blames you or your admin team, so stop twisting this into something that is not. We're talking about a group of people, who some might be admins, some might be moderators, some are just regular players, who have a made up plan-pact, how to damage and  prosecute the witch hunt Gvardia and its member, in any possible way they can, when ever they can, out of pure hatreted. And you're  giving them support in doing it, without even being aware obviously by the one sided blind actions you did. And everyone knows about this shit happening, from the regular players, some moderators and admins, even some people in the HQ are aware of it and confirm this is happening.
So its not just Cofi talking crap here.

Third thing, I really hope for the sake of the future, you will for once, perhaps look into this, and clean your garden,  cause we can clean our garden as much as we want and as much as you asks us to do , if garbage keeps falling from your garden in ours, we'll always have a pointless task to do.


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Reply #30349 on: December 18, 2012, 05:48:09 pm
You seem to have lost the ability to separate real hatred from gameplay. You are not alone there, as many others suffer from the same infliction.

Gvardia is a large family that pretends to 'own' large portions of SF. It is nothing else but normal that law enforcement will try to remove these claims and use different means to disrupt and diminish that power.
That should not be real-life hatred or witch hunting, it is part of the battle between good and evil that we play. And the more Gvardia displays public power, the larger the attention from law enforcemtn will be.
Tired of FBI and SAPD running and following your every move? Hide your actions better. Its THAT simple.

As for people mixing real life hatred with game, by stopping provocations after a fight and at times doing things together instead of constant being opposite you will create a much better atmosphere.
Some people will still be misguided in to mixing it, as hard as we may try to avoid it, but we can certainly all try harder.

Now for the cleaning, the loss of your rights is a clear indication that we do just that. Similar I have no problem in remoging the rights of anyone who does not use their rights properly, regardless which position they hold.

Being a good criminal group is harder as being a law enforcement group. I have no doubts about it, as you meet more untrained people during your activity as a law enforcement group that can select its target.
However once you start whining that law enforcement is against you, its time to change the direction of the group, as you are missing a point.

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Reply #30350 on: December 18, 2012, 06:04:31 pm
Third thing, I really hope for the sake of the future, you will for once, perhaps look into this, and clean your garden,  cause we can clean our garden as much as we want and as much as you asks us to do , if garbage keeps falling from your garden in ours, we'll always have a pointless task to do.
This.


Pepole are constantly shitting on Gvardia, especially Mikal, actually provoking us in main chat while nobody gives a fuck. Those advertisments about Gvardia, he has spent over 50k on it, attempting to provoke us, and not a single action was taken? Now you will say that the punishments are not only te ones we see (warns, kicks, bans, tempbans), that you have warned him via PM and shit, but the result of that warning is near zero, because he stops for a day or two then continues.
I do accept my mistakes, some undercover admnis who caught me rulebreaking can confirm, as I have accepted the mistake and apologized, but the fact is that if any of us respond to the provokation, we get a public warning. Let's say we're happy with a warning, because mostly it is a tempban or a permanent ban.
Now moving to the 'Deathmatching ban', I won't write a lot, but let's get some facts straight.
Most of the cops deny to suspect us, even if it is obvious that we're aiding the suspect, but we're just in the other car, following him, and when they finally get the opportunity to open fire, they all get into a shootout with the 'civilians' and if they in any way get killed, we all get banned, besides the suspect we were aiding. If it's CLEAR that we will support the suspect, they are SUPPOSED to suspect us as we will shoot if they attempt to kill our friend who's with us.
And the last thing I have to say is about the cops who are driving close to us while we are ALL suspected, ramming us and opening fire if they get a chance - When we stop or slow down, he exits the car and shoots (talking about the cops who are not DBing), we decide to pullover and see what will he do. The usual thing happens, he parks his car 20m from us and opens fire, as he sees us heading towards him, he enters the car and tries to move, but we kill before he escapes - That is considered as copbaiting and we all get a SERIOUS punishment.
Those are the one side blind actions which most of the admins do, as Cofi said.



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Reply #30351 on: December 18, 2012, 06:51:54 pm
You seem to have lost the ability to separate real hatred from gameplay. You are not alone there, as many others suffer from the same infliction.

Gvardia is a large family that pretends to 'own' large portions of SF. It is nothing else but normal that law enforcement will try to remove these claims and use different means to disrupt and diminish that power.
That should not be real-life hatred or witch hunting, it is part of the battle between good and evil that we play. And the more Gvardia displays public power, the larger the attention from law enforcemtn will be.
Tired of FBI and SAPD running and following your every move? Hide your actions better. Its THAT simple.


Gvardia is regarded as a criminal group, and so we do crime its no secret. FBI and SAPD often chase and shoot us down, thats okay its part of the deal. BUT, whenever we try to fight the cops, new rules against us starting falling from the sky, supposedly to fight DM. Whenever we kill cops that try to catch us, our actions are regarded as DM and so we get punished.



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Reply #30352 on: December 18, 2012, 07:25:05 pm
Ever since Cofiliano got removed as a Moderator this whining from Gvardia about abuse has started. Perhaps it's not abuse but simply no more guardian angel that "protects" your group against cops. Look at it from the other side instead of suddenly claiming to be a victim.

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Reply #30353 on: December 18, 2012, 07:49:49 pm
Ever since Cofiliano got removed as a Moderator this whining from Gvardia about abuse has started. Perhaps it's not abuse but simply no more guardian angel that "protects" your group against cops. Look at it from the other side instead of suddenly claiming to be a victim.
Exactly, and because we lost our 'guardian angel' many people are taking the opportunity to do as they want, without anybody resisting them from doing it.

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Reply #30354 on: December 18, 2012, 07:51:36 pm
Ever since Cofiliano got removed as a Moderator this whining from Gvardia about abuse has started. Perhaps it's not abuse but simply no more guardian angel that "protects" your group against cops. Look at it from the other side instead of suddenly claiming to be a victim.

So why Jarome isnt our guardian angel now? You accusations are simply false because you don't know what you talk about. If you ever saw him doing his job, you would see that he punish all players equaly no matter on group or status. Its whole other thing that you get used that cops are not punished for their acts or rarely punished with low punishments, so thats why his work probably bothered you, because he actually punished them for rulebreaks.

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Reply #30355 on: December 18, 2012, 08:23:50 pm
You seem to have lost the ability to separate real hatred from gameplay. You are not alone there, as many others suffer from the same infliction.

Gvardia is a large family that pretends to 'own' large portions of SF. It is nothing else but normal that law enforcement will try to remove these claims and use different means to disrupt and diminish that power.
That should not be real-life hatred or witch hunting, it is part of the battle between good and evil that we play. And the more Gvardia displays public power, the larger the attention from law enforcemtn will be.
Tired of FBI and SAPD running and following your every move? Hide your actions better. Its THAT simple.

As for people mixing real life hatred with game, by stopping provocations after a fight and at times doing things together instead of constant being opposite you will create a much better atmosphere.
Some people will still be misguided in to mixing it, as hard as we may try to avoid it, but we can certainly all try harder.

Now for the cleaning, the loss of your rights is a clear indication that we do just that. Similar I have no problem in remoging the rights of anyone who does not use their rights properly, regardless which position they hold.

Being a good criminal group is harder as being a law enforcement group. I have no doubts about it, as you meet more untrained people during your activity as a law enforcement group that can select its target.
However once you start whining that law enforcement is against you, its time to change the direction of the group, as you are missing a point.
I thought that this is an RPG server, where people roleplay.
Gvardia is an empire that actually posseses a ton of assets in San Fierro and actually maintains hard work to be able to call parts of San Fierro our turf. it's not just big talk.

Also I have to agree with this:
for once, perhaps look into this, and clean your garden,  cause we can clean our garden as much as we want and as much as you asks us to do , if garbage keeps falling from your garden in ours, we'll always have a pointless task to do.
We can discuss here until the end of time but maybe the problem isn't always with Cofi or Gvardia.
Maybe some people on your side are a bad asset.
And no I'm not just talking smack and feeding an argument here. I have seen things with my own eyes.



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Reply #30356 on: December 18, 2012, 08:43:13 pm
So why Jarome isnt our guardian angel now? You accusations are simply false because you don't know what you talk about. If you ever saw him doing his job, you would see that he punish all players equaly no matter on group or status. Its whole other thing that you get used that cops are not punished for their acts or rarely punished with low punishments, so thats why his work probably bothered you, because he actually punished them for rulebreaks.

Then why did he get fired? Are the rain of reports that dropped in about him all false? Jarome seems like a good guy from what I've seen from him.

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Reply #30357 on: December 18, 2012, 09:22:46 pm
Liuzzi, you from all people are not welcome here nor are your opinions. So, take them with you and go away.

As for the rest of you, I want you to be quiet and not jump into conversations.



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Reply #30358 on: December 18, 2012, 09:31:32 pm
Then why did he get fired? Are the rain of reports that dropped in about him all false? Jarome seems like a good guy from what I've seen from him.

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Reply #30359 on: December 18, 2012, 09:36:22 pm
You seem to have lost the ability to separate real hatred from gameplay. You are not alone there, as many others suffer from the same infliction.

Gvardia is a large family that pretends to 'own' large portions of SF. It is nothing else but normal that law enforcement will try to remove these claims and use different means to disrupt and diminish that power.
That should not be real-life hatred or witch hunting, it is part of the battle between good and evil that we play. And the more Gvardia displays public power, the larger the attention from law enforcemtn will be.
Tired of FBI and SAPD running and following your every move? Hide your actions better. Its THAT simple.

You're changing the subject, since no one here had a single complain on law force, not toward SAPD, ARPD or FBI.
As for people mixing real life hatred with game, by stopping provocations after a fight and at times doing things together instead of constant being opposite you will create a much better atmosphere.
Yes we tried that many times, and what did we get? Even more satisfaction from those individuals, who persuit their 'fight' even stronger, while all of you are being blind, and then giving us a lecture.

Now for the cleaning, the loss of your rights is a clear indication that we do just that. Similar I have no problem in remoging the rights of anyone who does not use their rights properly, regardless which position they hold.
Pfft, what I did is nothing comparing what other people are doing, yet I dont see that getting solved, like you were efficient in my case.
Being a good criminal group is harder as being a law enforcement group. I have no doubts about it, as you meet more untrained people during your activity as a law enforcement group that can select its target.
However once you start whining that law enforcement is against you, its time to change the direction of the group, as you are missing a point.
And again, no one is talking about law enforcement. I dont know who's spaming your head with that, but none of us mentioned law enforcement.

Read again:
Second thing, no one blames you or your admin team, so stop twisting this into something that is not. We're talking about a group of people, who some might be admins, some might be moderators, some are just regular players, who have a made up plan-pact, how to damage and  prosecute the witch hunt Gvardia and its member, in any possible way they can, when ever they can, out of pure hatreted. And you're  giving them support in doing it, without even being aware obviously by the one sided blind actions you did. And everyone knows about this shit happening, from the regular players, some moderators and admins, even some people in the HQ are aware of it and confirm this is happening.
So its not just Cofi talking crap here.

Third thing, I really hope for the sake of the future, you will for once, perhaps look into this, and clean your garden,  cause we can clean our garden as much as we want and as much as you asks us to do , if garbage keeps falling from your garden in ours, we'll always have a pointless task to do.


Salute

The fact that Gvardia weren't getting witch hunted  before I was a moderator, proves how the 'guardian angel' shit is just retarded.


And nice to see one of them jumping in the subject, in this case Liuzzi, revealing themselves openly. Commenting on things you're not connected, simply because of your personal failure and hatred complex issues toward Gvardia. Go find someone who's interested in it, cause you're not inch worthy of our attention. This goes for all your wannabe palls who didn't pass in Gvardia, scram and find another purpose in your life, except Gvardia.



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