If we wanted Gvardia closed, we had every opportunity to do so.
Even if a group gets hit with something it does not mean we want them gone or closed.
Gvardia has many excellent players, and are one of the few who try to spread on the map.
The idea of Killar is not 100% correct, however as a basic idea that criminals will hide their criminal RP from the cops and when outside act like responsible citizens does attract me. It might be something we have tried to explain in the past but never managed a group to actually follow.
It could give the Gvardia a new award in the future.
When I say, "they want" i wasn't point out on you, or developers or Managers.
We were hiding our cirminal role play from the cops all this time. It end it up, in cops only seeing us doing shootouts cause of which it was a mass popular expression that all that Gvardia does is "DM". The more we try to stick to a bit of realistic cirminal role play which is based on hiden underground criminal role play, the more people only see the stuff they can see from their point of view and thats the shotouts cause of which they just proclaim :WOW GVARDIA DM when they die ,or ,just like they proclaim "wow pwnt Gvardia" when they actually win.
I am tired of walking over eggs every time we try something, cause some people could intentionally understand it the way they want, just like Ben understand we were only their for Dming, which is from his and administration point of view valid, but with one simple pm it would all be revealed as a big misunderstanding.
I talked with CBF in game, although after a small simple talk we fixed out our misunderstanding in a friendly way, I didn't edit/erase my reply(The one you edit, and thank you for that) , just to show how lack of communication here can end up in destroying someone reputation, or hard work, over nothing.
Our group is not about quantity, but quality and I do belive that. There is a lot of Gvardia active members, but they are all veterans, and were teached to every single detail.
We got a group of 10 people approximately who are part of the higher ranks. Every single one has a special guide they need to follow, and another guide of training new people, they need to follow, add on the Argonath rules and Argonath "system".
We're the group, who actually read and replys on every single report we get, group were no one is un-touchable, no metter how good friends of mine or Egene they are, we the only group who demotes or kick their member if the reports of outsider shows truth.
We're the group who demoted the most then any other, their high ranks, in order to keep the stability up, when someone is not doing their part of job good. We're not the one who says:"Give us ultimate proofs, and then we'll see", we alone make sure that the investigation about any incident is solved positively or negatively.
People congratulate me for the best criminal group award, but I personally hate it, cause it just gave more pressure from jealous people who makes plots for their own interest. I can't belive that someones purpose on internet can only be to harm others, and their work, to spit on them for their own "lulz", and none of does people wouldn't be able to make a stable group, not in their dreams. As a group who won it, we should be the one to teach others how to role play better cirminals , but like Frank usually point out, to teach them sportsmanship. But so much annoying, E-bullying, provoking, and claiming on us, is a pressure we didn't deserve, we might not be the perfect group, but we also didn't harm no one so much, to get this much humiliation and pressure on our back.
I was active last 3 days, in does 3 days, I need it to order my members 3 times, to collectively /q, when I saw their wasn't any other way to prevent Mass TDM, cause the other side didn't even care to hire us out, and only purpose was to have "fun" by a 30 vs 30 shootout.
Then I instantly get banned together with 4 of my members, for tehncially at least, helping out allies, the same thing that did every single group from 2006 till 2010, from Corleones , Solonik, Araatus, even i9, you name it.
We were accused to have a constant DM, which in my book, its constant shotouts why is that? Cause Gvardia is the most active group in last few months, most of Stracci are on duty, Araatus, keep it cool, Corleones are currently a lot of inactive, etc.
The night we got banned, I saw that all criminal groups togheter that was online, wasn't the bigger number then all Gvardia members.
And I repeat that most of our members were and are trained, experience veterans. So what's the cause of it? Its not allowed to have a big and a successful group that is stable without inactivity for over a 400 days till now, cause then the whole pressure goes down on your back.
This means, that we're not allowed to expand, not by Gandalf or Aragorn or I don't know who, but by the atmosphere and pre-judgments of people itself, for who you're a good group if their is 3 of you only, or if you got more then 20 members, you're a group of Dmrs.
When a person, I wont mention his name here, tells that "If Gvardia wont stop, he will ask for group to be closed for DM", when all he does is goes on constant and constant and constant chases and killing, which is basically TDM with valid reasons, how can I feel? How can anyone feel in our situation? If you're such a smartass to go on a ban rampage, why don't you try to make a stable group instead of taking a piss? Why don't you try in making something with your hard work without hacking milions or getting fast admin rights cause you're in kissassing group/clan ? Why don't you try in building something with your friends, and see how people just take a piss on it, giving you a treatment of a Hitler, while calling YOU Hitler? Why don't you try to make anything except ass kissing to get "immunity protection " by someone? Then when you actually do that, and success then come here or ingame to us, and give us lecture about what we should do.
Cause we went through Hell and back, all supported by ONLY our friendship, our people who were by us, and our believe in our stubborn s and hard work, and we sure hell didn't do all of that, to get lectures from someone who can't even write right and I am not talking about spelling, but the real talk, spelling mistakes isn't a big problem.
How dare you to teach us a lession? What did you do for someone else except your own ass, your own admin rights, and your own rank? When did you share time to hear someone out, except of straight killing them an calling it valid, just cause he's orange?
Who raised you in such tradition, to take a piss on people's work, even if its E-work and shouldn't be important?
Who gave you authority to judge anyone else, if you alone are only capable of telling other people what they should do?
What you think you're God?
God (By religion theory), made a world in 7 days. What did you made in all your history here, except making your ass conformable, and taking a piss on others?
And its not because this is "srs bisnis", this is an internet game, made to have fun and enjoy it, then who da f**k gave you right to destroy it to almost half of the community by your selfish, egoistic, and immature actions? What, you can't show how "tough" you are in real life so you show it over internet?
Well remember one thing, what goes around comes around, and the more you screw other people, the more you'll get screwed on the end.
(For does who are not willing to read the whole treath, but yet again just like to f**king judge the reply, its not pointed out to Gandalf just cause I quoted him, I was answering on his quote and continuing with the subject in other direction point out the the cancer of Argonath.)
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