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[Cofiliano]

Gandalf definitly didn't told you neither did Frank to come here and say sentence like:"If it was to me, I would have close you" That was Stanley and Eugene point.

Specially not if you want ARUN idea to success, then you need to put your personal opinion a side, cause none of us is interested in it, we don't give personal opinion on you, altough I would have a big list, I keep it a side, and work with you on ARUN, you should do the same.

The point is, you SHOULD fear the administration.

No, the point is you should work with administration  while respecting them, in fixing issues not just by one sided action.

Like I said, I am your way into A.R.U.N. You don't want to gain official status and help develop the server in terms of groups? Fine by me, but I think Cofi will say otherwise given his post in the A.R.U.N board.

You're misunderstand ed it, by an error on do we want or not to help develop the server and community.  If that was not the case, Frank wouldn't invite me to ARUN, if he thought I am not a person who can't contribute to the ARUN idea.

Now like I told you on the start, you're not gonna have anything from ARUN, if you don't put your personal issues/opinions etc, on side, and just co-operate and work.

We're not here for your opinion on Gvardia, or our opinion on you, We're here to help develop the groups  and the whole community. Stick to that only, and forget about everything else, like I am doing on the ARUN board.

[Gandalf]

Regarding provoking, we can not stop all. However if I find that Gvardia is being ambushed by any group or person, the result will be a boomerang effect.

The members of Gvardia should know that no matter how strong or big a group is, they are never stronger than the rules. As far as the words of Cofiliano, he is correct that this time it reflected on Gvardia, but the same punishment could have been given to any other group who did the same.

Keeping things running on server requires a lot of time, insight and an eye for the developments. We have been looking at the frequent mass- shootouts and found that actually they are not based on RP, but on the simple idea ' get wanted and get people to shoot' . The current raging discussion of cops vs criminals is a result of this.
To mend this, we will use the rules and vision of the server.

With A.R.U.N. we will try to give this a base where we look carefully at all the ingredients that cause this, and how it can be solved and created in e better way.
we are not against a fight, we are not against a shootout, just as we are not against a cop suspecting a criminal. However they should be originating anr resulting in something, else it becomes without any value.

[Dave]

Gandalf definitly didn't told you neither did Frank to come here and say sentence like:"If it was to me, I would have close you" That was Stanley and Eugene point.

Specially not if you want ARUN idea to success, then you need to put your personal opinion a side, cause none of us is interested in it, we don't give personal opinion on you, altough I would have a big list, I keep it a side, and work with you on ARUN, you should do the same.
No, the point is you should work with administration  while respecting them, in fixing issues not just by one sided action.
You're misunderstand ed it, by an error on do we want or not to help develop the server and community.  If that was not the case, Frank wouldn't invite me to ARUN, if he thought I am not a person who can't contribute to the ARUN idea.

Now like I told you on the start, you're not gonna have anything from ARUN, if you don't put your personal issues/opinions etc, on side, and just co-operate and work.

We're not here for your opinion on Gvardia, or our opinion on you, We're here to help develop the groups  and the whole community. Stick to that only, and forget about everything else, like I am doing on the ARUN board.

My opinions are not personal but rather from experience. As for A.R.U.N, we do not want a single person to contribute, but an entire group, that is what I am getting at.
I do not have an opinion on Gvardia other than my professional one, and I will not say that here.
You can contribute to ARUN, anyone can, but we are not just after people contributing, we are trying to stop all the arguments between groups and the rest of the community.

[Cofiliano]

My opinions are not personal but rather from experience. As for A.R.U.N, we do not want a single person to contribute, but an entire group, that is what I am getting at.
I do not have an opinion on Gvardia other than my professional one, and I will not say that here.
You can contribute to ARUN, anyone can, but we are not just after people contributing, we are trying to stop all the arguments between groups and the rest of the community.

Napoleon said once:"Country/Goverment? That's me." I can use the same phrase for myself and Gvardia, not because I am God of Gvardia, but because what ever do we make at ARUN by our personal contribute will be implemented in Gvardia itself by me.

You're personal opinion can be based on what ever you want, you still need to keep it a side, cause most of the opinions are based on  experiences, but still we need to put it a side. I hope you understand me now. 

[Dave]

Napoleon said once:"Country/Goverment? That's me." I can use the same phrase for myself and Gvardia, not because I am God of Gvardia, but because what ever do we make at ARUN by our personal contribute will be implemented in Gvardia itself by me.

You're personal opinion can be based on what ever you want, you still need to keep it a side, cause most of the opinions are based on  experiences, but still we need to put it a side. I hope you understand me now.

It is aside and always have been, these are my professional opinions, not my personal, like I said.
I am hoping what you said is correct. A.R.U.N is willing to "bail out" Gvardia once I release my final concept come Frank's contribution on Friday, as they have potential but it is squashed by certain actions of certain members.

[Cofiliano]

It is aside and always have been, these are my professional opinions, not my personal, like I said.
I am hoping what you said is correct. A.R.U.N is willing to "bail out" Gvardia once I release my final concept come Frank's contribution on Friday, as they have potential but it is squashed by certain actions of certain members.

Professional= putting unwelcome opionions about the person you're talking a side, in order to be a non biased conversation, to make something fantastic that will help and develop the great good of the whole community.

A.R.U.N is not the one who are or are not to bail out Gvardia, its our personal issue we must fix to "bail out". We got squashed in the name of all groups who works the same way like Gvardia, since 2006 till today.

[Nexxt]

Quitting Argo, got banned for invalid reason, pmed almost every admin but none responds. And no time for unban appeal

Thanks for everything Gvardia

Ciao guys

"not time for unban request"
"pmed almost every admin"

I wonder what does take more time?

[Devin]

This is not the ARUN topic, so please take all these conversations of ARUN there or elsewhere, since this is Gvardia's Topic.

[Stealth_Killer]

um.. can some1 tell me what ARUN is ?

[NitrOx]

What happens when we RP outside?

1st) BIG group of cops come. Because they know there will %70 chance of shootout. We know there will be    70% chance of shootout.

2nd) Our Back up arrives.

3rd) There is a blood bath.

4th) People are complaining.

5th) People are getting kicked.



If you are inside a house, RPing. Chances are very low of death match.

Nothing much has changed. All I want you guys to do is, Stay in SF. Try to keep RP in SF. Report abusing cops. It ain't hard to follow.

Try to meet with each other places outside which are directly unmarked on the map (e.g. Red County, instead of Fort Carson).

However, inside roleplaying will keep the police away, I suggest you should move from time to time to remain secretive,

Even though you guys have been rivals of me over the year, I wish you good luck.

[Romeo]

I believe we should meet with all of the major crime family leaders with Frank Hawk to discuss things such as that.

[NitrOx]

Moderator Comment

off-topic

[Tomica]

Reserved, wrong reply.

[Duel]

Hey, eugene long time no speak, contact me  on msn. How's everyone else?

[Tomica]

Leaders please check page 666, there is Application, i cant Accept/Denie cus there is something wrong with my Firefox.