The Gvardia Family || San Fierro's Main Power || Best criminal group of 09/10/11

[Devin]

Gvardia Mob Application
In-Game Name:Nelson_Azavedo
In-Game Age:32
Age in real life:14
List previous names you used:Nelson_Belluci
How long you been playing on Argonath?7 months.
Do you have license and passport?Yes, I have.
List assets you own(house,car,bizz)At the moment, I just own a bullet.
Were you invited to join Gvardia, by who? No, I

Post Merge: May 12, 2010, 08:11:55 pmThe app got cut short there due to some forum bug or the setup, click on the link and go through it.

Another Gvardia leader must deal with this Application, I can not and will not be dealing with Applications whilst I am currently banned, and I will not be back until June.

[Nelson CM]

Post Merge: May 12, 2010, 08:11:55 pmThe app got cut short there due to some forum bug or the setup, click on the link and go through it.
Another Gvardia leader must deal with this Application, I can not and will not be dealing with Applications whilst I am currently banned, and I will not be back until June.

Oh, i thought you forgot me, guys i'll just repost apply to be more easy for you.

 :ps: Well, i tryed to but it gets cutted too. Anyway you can find it at page 666  :devroll: as you can check in Madboi quote, hope you guys like my application and acept me!

[Argoplayer]

I believe we should meet with all of the major crime family leaders with Frank Hawk to discuss things such as that.

Agreed.

[Leon.]

Gvardia Mob Application
In-Game Name:Nelson_Azevedo

Your application has been accepted. You may now put '_GvardiaT' in your name. You are now a trial member, on "prove your-self" period. Make sure you read the whole topic (first page) and study all the information. Ask an administrator in game to give you permission to changename unless you want to pay 10k at city hall Signed Leon Gvardia Underboss

Post Merge: May 13, 2010, 12:08:27 am

Correct, an award that could potentially help them change how the community views them on a whole.

And think yourself lucky about the warnings, If I was still developing this section of Argonath on a whole, I probably would have closed you by now....

And WHY would you have closed us? Don't give me any of the "unbiased" crap, or "inflammatory" crap, just spill it.
Post Merge: May 13, 2010, 12:10:36 amAnd someone explain our previous warning to me. In fact, explain our current one. If not anything else, BOTH warns are absolute BULLSHIT brought upon opinions based on stupidity.

[Luisy10Boy!]

congratulation nelson. good luck in gvardia

[Eugene]

When I say, "they want" i wasn't point out on you, or developers or Managers.
We were hiding our cirminal role play from the cops all this time. It end it up, in cops only seeing us doing shootouts cause of which it was a mass popular expression that all that Gvardia does is "DM". The more we try to stick to a bit of realistic cirminal role play which is based on hiden underground criminal role play, the more people only see the stuff they can see from their point of view and thats the shotouts cause of which they just proclaim :WOW GVARDIA DM when they die ,or  ,just like they proclaim "wow pwnt Gvardia" when they actually win.

I am tired of walking over eggs every time we try something, cause some people could intentionally understand it the way they want, just like Ben understand we were only their for Dming, which is from his and administration point of view valid, but with one simple pm it would all be revealed as a big misunderstanding.

I talked with CBF in game, although after a small simple talk we fixed out our misunderstanding in a friendly way, I didn't edit/erase  my reply(The one you edit, and thank you for that) , just to show how lack of communication here can end up in destroying someone reputation, or hard work, over nothing.

Our group is not about quantity, but quality and I do belive that. There is a lot of Gvardia active members, but they are all veterans, and were teached to every single detail.
We got a group of 10 people approximately who are part of the higher ranks. Every single one has a special guide they need to follow, and another guide of training new people, they need to follow, add on the Argonath rules and Argonath "system".

We're the group, who actually read and replys on every single report we get, group were no one is un-touchable, no metter how good friends of mine or Egene they are, we the only group who demotes or kick their member if the reports of outsider shows truth.
We're the group who demoted the most then any other, their high ranks, in order to keep the stability up, when someone is not doing their part of job good. We're not the one who says:"Give us ultimate proofs, and then we'll see", we alone make sure that the investigation about any incident is solved positively or negatively.

People congratulate me for the best criminal group award, but I personally hate it, cause it just gave more pressure from jealous people who makes plots for their own interest. I can't belive that someones purpose on internet can only be to harm others, and their work, to spit on them for their own "lulz", and none of does people wouldn't be able to make a stable group, not in their dreams. As a group who won it, we should be the one to teach others how to role play better cirminals , but like Frank usually point out, to teach them sportsmanship. But so much annoying, E-bullying, provoking, and claiming on us, is a pressure we didn't deserve, we might not be the perfect group, but we also didn't harm no one so much, to get this much humiliation and pressure on our back.

I was active last 3 days, in does 3 days, I need it to order my members 3 times, to collectively /q, when I saw their wasn't any other way to prevent Mass TDM, cause the other side didn't even care to hire us out, and only purpose was to have "fun" by a 30 vs 30 shootout.
Then I instantly get banned together with 4 of my members, for tehncially at least, helping out allies, the same thing that did every single group from 2006 till 2010, from Corleones , Solonik, Araatus, even i9, you name it.
We were accused to have a constant DM, which in my book, its constant shotouts why is that? Cause Gvardia is the most active group in last few months, most of Stracci are on duty, Araatus, keep it cool, Corleones are currently a lot of inactive, etc.
The night we got banned, I saw that all criminal groups togheter that was online, wasn't the bigger number then all Gvardia members.
And I repeat that most of our members were and are trained, experience veterans. So what's the cause of it? Its not allowed to have a big and a successful group that is stable without inactivity for over a 400 days till now, cause then the whole pressure goes down on your back.
This means, that we're not allowed to expand, not by Gandalf or Aragorn or I don't know who, but by the atmosphere and pre-judgments of people itself, for who you're a good group if their is 3 of you only, or if you got more then 20 members, you're a group of Dmrs.


When a person, I wont mention his name here, tells that "If Gvardia wont stop, he will ask for group to be closed for DM", when all he does is goes on constant and constant and constant chases and killing, which is basically TDM with valid reasons, how can I feel? How can anyone feel in our situation? If you're such a smartass to go on a ban rampage, why  don't you try to make a stable group instead of taking a piss? Why don't you try in making something with your hard work without hacking milions or getting fast admin rights cause you're in kissassing group/clan  ? Why don't you try in building something with your friends, and see how people just take a piss on it, giving you a treatment of a Hitler, while calling YOU Hitler?  Why don't you try to make anything except ass kissing to get "immunity protection " by someone?  Then when you actually do that, and success then come here or ingame to us, and give us lecture about what we should do.
Cause we went through Hell and back, all supported by ONLY   our friendship, our people who were by us, and our believe in our stubborn s and hard work, and we sure hell didn't do all of that, to get lectures from someone who can't even write right and I am not talking about spelling, but the real talk, spelling mistakes isn't a big problem.

How dare you to teach us a lession? What did you do for someone else except your own ass, your own admin rights, and your own rank? When did you share time to hear someone out, except of straight killing them an calling it valid, just cause he's orange?

Who raised you in such tradition, to take a piss on people's work, even if its E-work and shouldn't be important?
Who gave you authority to judge anyone else, if you alone are only capable of telling other people what they should do?

What you think you're God?
God (By religion theory), made a world in 7 days. What did you made in all your history here, except making your ass conformable, and taking a piss on others?

And its not because this is "srs bisnis", this is an internet game, made to have fun and enjoy it, then who da f**k gave you right to destroy it to almost half of the community by your selfish, egoistic, and immature actions? What, you can't show how "tough" you are in real life so you show it over internet?

Well remember one thing, what goes around comes around, and the more you screw other people, the more you'll get screwed on the end.

(For does who are not willing to read the whole treath, but yet again just like to f**king judge the reply, its not pointed out to Gandalf just cause I quoted him, I was answering on his quote and continuing with the subject in other direction point out the the cancer of Argonath.)

[EliteTerm]

Gvardia has always been my favorite gang, only because of the leadership. The leadership has shown always to be approachable and truthful. They speak their minds and they don't keep things behind closed doors. Cofi speaks the truth in his post when he says they don't asslick. When you take that term, asslicking, relatively compared to other groups, he's more than just making an understatement. I'm going to keep singing the same old song when the subject of asslicking and consequences thereoff is being brought up.
It's great that the administration has been close with most of the groups. In restrospect to former adminstrations, admins would look the other way to do one a favour or 'talk things out' instead of punishing them. Then the fun is over for others. Cems and Corleone were TDM'ing for months and nobody got banned then. Stracci was pissed as hell about this, nothing was done. Gvardia knows this better than any other big gang on Argonath. Those days seem to be over now. My point is that since Gvardia (along with i9) is the only gang that's really active right now, they are the first ones to get 'hurt'. I think that's why Cofi is so pissed right now. He knows these things so well so now it seems so unfair to him. But instead of blaming the administration, Gvardia should embrace the new administration and face the current consequences by being silent. There's no way back now by instantly removing the bans. At the end of the day if the other gangs become real active again, you and I both know who will have the least rulebreakers in their gang, relatively speaking.

Excuse me, are you shifting some blame toward Corleone?

[Cofiliano]

Excuse me, are you shifting some blame toward Corleone?

Every single criminal group on SAMP since 2006.

[Antonio.]

Well as you guys know I am going inactive so I might not be on as much. <3

[Eugene]

GPD yo!!



















 :ps: sorry for the mess Gimli  :roll:

[Devin]

Oh what a shame, now Ill have to give all of you warnings for being on Duty, including Eug.  :redface:

[hell1989]

Well guys I am unbanned  hope to play with u soon xD

[NitrOx]

hey y'all

I just had a question:

What was the reason for you to validate to us?
No offensive shit or something, I just need to know why so that there's no bullshitting about the reasons with people.

[Cofiliano]

hey y'all

I just had a question:

What was the reason for you to validate to us?
No offensive shit or something, I just need to know why so that there's no bullshitting about the reasons with people.

No problem mate. The reason is cause you got in a war with our most trustful allies-Ancelottis. Since in role play, Us and Ancelottis have the same sphere of business interest, we need to defend does  interests  that we share. That's all.

[NitrOx]

I see, well, I'm willing to accept the validation, however, if you were to accept validations from allies that were to help me. (If both Ancelotti and Gvardia would accept). Untill then, please do not form an assault yet