Script Abuse and misuse

[battle]

Yeah, thanks alot... not

[Marting_Riggs]

we had another shootout yesturday in hospital and eug and jenn were medic's they rped it they did /me opens medic kit /me gives joe a shot of adrinilin

then either Eug or Jenn would /heal id

so is that still abuse since that takes like 1 min to type ?

and it rped out

[CBFasi]

Gvardia and Cems are the most high profile abusers of this but others have done it too..

i was telling Gvardia not to hang around the spawn on the cb i sayed stay back, and for the medic healing themselfs, your medic on the other side was doing the exact same thing so it was kinda far either way you guys had armour witch is understandable since you cops ^^

Our medic however was outside, and a non combatant, yours was right in the middle of the fight shooting, then pulling just around corner wall and healing self and others, then going back in to shoot.  I actaully wanted policee to be able to do first aid but decided it would be unfair, but criminals you really did it !!

You can use a medic, just keep that medic as a non-combatant and OUT of risk of being accused.  Medics can be warned to back off over emergency channel...

[Rusty]

So say we'r back in the Hospital can we have a medic sitting in a room away from the fight but still be able to use him to heal?

[Indica]

Thanks to Cems Gang, Gvardia Family and a few others the following are being instigated, along with a warning.

The ability to heal has a medic while wanted is gone - say thanks to Gavardia and blatant abuse of /heal use in the middle of a firefight, such that it was as if they had god like abilities, 3 different incidents where they did exactly the same...
The sheer volume of firepower it took to kill one totally backs up requirement for mass SAPD arms use, so want to complain about SAPD getting heavy arms... blame criminals!

The ability to use /buy abuse by Cems gang to buy drinks to heal when in middle of combat.  Well I thought I had added a nice little script to discourage this, instead its now a blanket block..

Both of these show criminals be inventitive, and if you want to claim irl then sorry kiddies, irl does not get you back to full health..

NON wanted medics can heal ANYONE, both cops and criminals, but if you healign criminals, dont get actually invovled in the firefight or you will be wanted, and its a cop decision, if they suspect you then you appearing to be too involved, tough...

As for the Warning..

In RS4 a feature which means you are frozen on entry to a building was introduced to reduce the chance of falling when entering a building, a rather common feature of RS3 building entry..

This is being used as a way to aim at cops, or for that matter anyone entering a building and the millisecond they are thawed they are shot at.  Its not fun dying 4 time in a row without even getting chance to move, you may think its fun to just kill, ahh yes thats dm btw!

This is straight forward SCRIPT ABUSE

You may claim 'but irl we would target the door'... but hang on irl there is more than a door that can be used for entry, in fact the time when this excuse was used against ME was in hospital which IRL would have a large number of doors, and a large number of windows, all accessable and IRL they would be used.

Fact is we have ONE way in, you want to spawn camp it we can BAN YOU FOR SCRIPT ABUSE

Yes remember script abuse is a BANNABLE offense.

I was involved in this firefight. I think how you handled it (removing the ability for wanted medics to heal) is a good idea.
However, cop medics is just as bad of an idea. I remember how the cops had two medics healing them just as quickly as we were. How is that fair?

[Voodoo]

IRL there are medics, but they treat only if someone is really injured, and usually, or, always, he never comes back to the fight.

[JDC]

You criminals have a lot of thanks to say to Gvardia and Cems... anyway, today is "JDC is sarcastic" day. No offense to Gvardia and Cems.

About the wanted medics not being able to heal, criminals are once again moaning about cops having advantages... the idea that cops should only have as much advantage as criminals is total bullshit, Cops are a force made to control the criminals, not to combat them in a war where both sides are equal. Cops need to retain some control over the criminals.

Let's put it into a different situation with the same logic for example... think of the community as a Human Being. The cops are the white blood cells who find dangers to the body and expel them, while the criminals are the millions of kinds of germs who invade the body, posing risks both small and big. If the white blood cells were equal in strength to the germs, your body resistance factor will lower to nearly zero and you'll be f**ked!

Get the logic?

Anyways, enough of that Cop-Crim-Advantage discussion before people start moaning and we get "*childish voice* But JDC STARTED IT!" all over the place.


Anyway, think of another situation that would happen if CBF didnt block wanted medics from healing. Three criminal medics would be locked up inside a hospital, shooting cops whenever they go in. Poor cops, it's like a human being with AIDS. No matter how many white blood cells are sent, it is no use.

[Hircine]

Gvardia and Cems are the most high profile abusers of this but others have done it too..


Our medic however was outside, and a non combatant, yours was right in the middle of the fight shooting, then pulling just around corner wall and healing self and others, then going back in to shoot.  I actaully wanted policee to be able to do first aid but decided it would be unfair, but criminals you really did it !!

You can use a medic, just keep that medic as a non-combatant and OUT of risk of being accused.  Medics can be warned to back off over emergency channel...

Bullshit, if you're referring to [Z]Mike he was shooting us as well and was inside, if this isn't what you're talking about then sorry.

[Fido Dido]

Bullshit, if you're referring to [Z]Mike he was shooting us as well and was inside, if this isn't what you're talking about then sorry.

LIES he was OUTSIDE
-_-

[Pandalink]

JDC, you seem to believe that cops should have a better position than criminals do.
This is just totally untrue.

I'll use WoW as an example, but its in every online game.
In WoW lore, a Warrior (big guy with sword) could never, ever defeat a Mage (guy with lots of fire flying from his hands). He'd just get burnt up instantly. However, in the interest of balance, this was ignored and the two classes can fight one another ingame on a fairly balanced level.

You're talking IRL. Yea, IRL the cops are there to help you. Ingame none of that logic applies, whatsoever. The two sides should be balanced, otherwise you guys would be out a job as nobody would bother ever being a criminal. Frankly, if there was actually any money and fun to be had in selling Lasagnes (which there isn't ) then I'd do that. However, there is no fun to be had because frankly I'm just typing lots of /me. As a criminal, I'm actually doing something.

[Hircine]

LIES he was OUTSIDE
-_-

He was inside, also using guns, I dunno if this occured after CBF left or what.

[Matthew_Cipricla]

IRL there are medics, but they treat only if someone is really injured, and usually, or, always, he never comes back to the fight.

1. This isnt IRL.

2. Even IRL I you will never see a medic helping a criminal during a shootout, cops would make sure of it...
Medics arent just some random people who can do what they want, they are usually only seen during emergencys with ambulances, not with criminals helping them.

3. It doesnt take 4 seconds for a medic/doctor to treat someone with bullet wounds IRL.

4. Once again, this isnt IRL...

[Altair_Carter]

2. Even IRL I you will never see a medic helping a criminal during a shootout, cops would make sure of it...
Medics arent just some random people who can do what they want, they are usually only seen during emergencys with ambulances, not with criminals helping them.

3. It doesnt take 4 seconds for a medic/doctor to treat someone with bullet wounds IRL.

2. Maybe IRL criminal has a medic-friend, who helps criminal in combat? Thought of friendship?

3. But it takes a bit more than 40 seconds to give First Aid after a bullet shot to continue the work.

[Trobby888]

 IRL, no-one can recover to "full HP" after they have been shot within like 2 seconds. It takes more than 2 seconds to remove a bullet from a person's wound, plus takes a lot of concentration too. Let alone that, even as the bullet is removed, it takes at least hours before the person can really recover. Yes, ingame isn't IRL, but at the same time, the game is completely unbalanced by the criminals who just abuse this /heal. So yes, I'm happy that this abuse is going to be removed.

 Also, to those who are moaning about criminals having too much disadvantage, in the game, criminals can now escape by running away and keeping from cops for a long enough time. Why are criminals still moaning about too many disadvantages even though they can escape like this?? In real life, even if criminals get away, the evidence of their treason is still there within the police force, so they could just get him another day. But that doesn't happen ingame. If suspects get away, that's that, even if the evidence of their act is still there. So why keep complaining even after having this advantage?!?!?!

[Cutt3r]

I am neither a cop nor a criminal. I have nothing in this. So I believe I am neutral in this topic. Guys this discussion of who has more advantage, non rp, etc etc could go on and on into hundreds of pages or could be simply understood as follows:

1. Criminals abused /heal on more than one occasion. Plain and simple. What happened yesterday was abuse, it was clear, no amounting of saying 'it was not' will make it non-abuse.
2. If a command or script is abused, it is blocked/removed.
3. Due to (1) it is blocked in a certain way, though not fully.