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Reply #360 on: March 21, 2013, 05:21:19 am
In reality it will be more like
* RizzE walks up behind User1
*User1 looks back*
* RizzE pretends to pick up a penny off the ground
*User1 takes out a combat shotgun
* RizzE Dies

What i mean is can i get banned for killing someone with a hit without RP? I take a chopper to a roof, take out my sniper and i see my target. I see my chance and i start to shoot, target dies now this is what i call a hit. I dont want to post an unbann request for deathmatching because i carried out a hit diffrent than someone else.
If the user just pulls a shotgun out of their *** like that, you have two options:
1. Report them for deathmatching.
2. Follow the self-defense laws.

They have no way of knowing that you are the hitman. That is why you need to be sneaky when roleplaying. If they just suddenly shoot you, they DM'ed you.

As for the sniper example, that could be justified as roleplayed if you were doing it as a concealed hit, meaning you didn't want anyone to see you actually kill him. Keep in mind, though...taking advantage of this situation can lead to admins getting quite angry, so make sure you intend this method to be done in a roleplay matter, rather than just as an easy way to kill someone without getting hurt. :)



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Reply #361 on: March 21, 2013, 12:31:07 pm
If the user just pulls a shotgun out of their *** like that, you have two options:
1. Report them for deathmatching.
2. Follow the self-defense laws.

They have no way of knowing that you are the hitman. That is why you need to be sneaky when roleplaying. If they just suddenly shoot you, they DM'ed you.

As for the sniper example, that could be justified as roleplayed if you were doing it as a concealed hit, meaning you didn't want anyone to see you actually kill him. Keep in mind, though...taking advantage of this situation can lead to admins getting quite angry, so make sure you intend this method to be done in a roleplay matter, rather than just as an easy way to kill someone without getting hurt. :)
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I will try to only RP the hits from now on, but if it keeps failing and i have to report them for DM 8/10 times and i have a feeling i will have to that. Then i wont bother to even try rp my hits at all. I will take acreens and if i get some good pics i can post them here ;)

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Reply #362 on: March 21, 2013, 12:34:51 pm
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I will try to only RP the hits from now on, but if it keeps failing and i have to report them for DM 8/10 times and i have a feeling i will have to that. Then i wont bother to even try rp my hits at all. I will take acreens and if i get some good pics i can post them here ;)
Purposely not RP'ing because they DM you is not an excuse to carry out a hit without roleplay. As the rules state, all killings must be roleplayed out to be valid, else it's DM. Remember, one person rulebreaking does not justify another to do it back.



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Reply #363 on: March 21, 2013, 06:11:09 pm
Purposely not RP'ing because they DM you is not an excuse to carry out a hit without roleplay. As the rules state, all killings must be roleplayed out to be valid, else it's DM. Remember, one person rulebreaking does not justify another to do it back.

But it concerns me  when Admins tells me diffrent things. Why should i choose one admin over another. If do that then admin1 bans me, If do that then admin2 dont ban me.

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Reply #364 on: March 21, 2013, 06:12:41 pm
But it concerns me  when Admins tells me diffrent.
That's why you need to let them know the manner you were roleplaying in so they understand that you followed through when the other player didn't. All they see is what happens in front of them when they get the report.



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Reply #365 on: March 21, 2013, 06:31:36 pm
Maybe i should pm an admin so they can spectate. When i die and /report nothing happens becasue they missed the whole thing

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Reply #366 on: March 21, 2013, 08:45:15 pm
You could also phone the guy anonymously and tell him to watch his back.. then when he drops his guard pewpew boom with a sniper  :evil:


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Reply #367 on: March 21, 2013, 08:47:07 pm
You could also phone the guy anonymously and tell him to watch his back.. then when he drops his guard pewpew boom with a sniper  :evil:
Yes, even that shows an effort to roleplay with them. At that point, they could hire a bodyguard or call the police to continue it further, unless you get to them first. ;)



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Reply #368 on: March 21, 2013, 09:01:44 pm
I got a question about cop abuse,


Abuse 1(Script abuse), cops randomly suspecting people/shooting random guys.
I am aware of this being a rulebreak, no questions about this.

Abuse 2(Badge Abuse), a police officer randomly noticing a civilian alone, so he decides to stop him and beat him, confiscate his stuff, and injure him a bit and leave him.(Could be because of his race, his skin, his gender. No offense to anyone)

Is the second type of abuse a rulebreak?



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Reply #369 on: March 21, 2013, 10:13:09 pm
I got a question about cop abuse,


Abuse 1(Script abuse), cops randomly suspecting people/shooting random guys.
I am aware of this being a rulebreak, no questions about this.

Abuse 2(Badge Abuse), a police officer randomly noticing a civilian alone, so he decides to stop him and beat him, confiscate his stuff, and injure him a bit and leave him.(Could be because of his race, his skin, his gender. No offense to anyone)

Is the second type of abuse a rulebreak?
It depends on if he's roleplaying a corrupt cop, or just picking on players. Both can lead to copbans if caught, though. It just depends on whether the copban is for a RP corruption reason, or for a server rulebreak while on duty.



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Reply #370 on: March 22, 2013, 02:58:16 am
You could also phone the guy anonymously and tell him to watch his back.. then when he drops his guard pewpew boom with a sniper  :evil:

yeah i like this one haha

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Reply #371 on: May 02, 2013, 07:18:00 pm
One question

If a high ranked cop enters a house with suspects then he /exits after getting low hp and then he re-equips, does that counts as exit or script abuse?



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Reply #372 on: May 02, 2013, 10:21:23 pm
One question

If a high ranked cop enters a house with suspects then he /exits after getting low hp and then he re-equips, does that counts as exit or script abuse?
High-ranked cop or not, he/she should not be re-equipping themselves when they /exit after low hp and then re-enters. That is against both SAPD and FBI policy. So, I guess you would count that as script abuse. It's giving an advantage to the high-ranking officer, while suspects inside are forced to sit there and not be able to replenish HP, etc.

Either way, it is not allowed.

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Reply #373 on: September 02, 2013, 12:21:42 pm
Do we still have hope to see hand of law?

Over 10 years in Argonath


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Reply #374 on: September 04, 2013, 11:46:29 pm
Do we still have hope to see hand of law?

The 'Hand of law' website : http://www.handoflaw.com/ is still online.

As quoting aragorn, on 7th of august.

It has a long pause due to lack of time... Besides it we are looking for a good animator - the guy who can adjust 3d models to the animation (work with skeleton)... We do have animations, models and buildings...

If things will be better and more time, with the good animator, Hand Of Law will go better...




 


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