[Petition]

[NitrOx]

Well David, thanks for your idea -

Belive me I have tried to announce it to Administration, even today, Answer: NO, NO, NO.

I would like EVERYONE to give THEYRE own IDEAS! and then make a MERGE of all the ideas, I want EVERYONE in the COMMUNITY to TRY things, because what happens if people doesnt try anything? You dont get to success, I am trying to create success out of this Subject and will think very well about few terms to allow it! So that it will be fun for everybody!

Thank you

[Cofiliano]

1. everyone has a different definition of the words "gang war" - to some it is a roleplay event, to others it is team deathmatch

2. well considering we didn't die, it wasn't revenge killing...we were getting revenge for something else

3. gang wars do not get announced to admins for example, which is why we don't allow most of it as we have no idea what the hell is going on when a load of reports come through

4. if blocking complaints means blocking two or three gangs from shooting each other, so be it

5. we are not complaining, we are giving OUR opinion just like you are giving YOURS

6. here's my idea which suits pretty much everyone - disallow it. We don't need to think of ideas which will allow it, just because you want us to...

It just soooooo easy to make this working nice without lots of effort......


I hear by in the name of Gvardia, declare that our Family will stick to the fallowing rules, with our combat situation with other criminal and RP groups:

- 2 hours none return after death
- No atacking 30 vs 1-2 online
-NO MOANING OR SPAMING PUBLIC CHAT
-Have to HAVE BIG RP reason for it
-Try to EVADE populated places ( LSPD, GS9 etc etc )
-Keep involved only people from EACH group ( + 1or 2 person), not having 10 alieds group on one side, and 10 alieds group on other, cause then its half of server vs half of server
-Must NOT have Random atack on other group members

If you dont like this, fine, dont RP with us, if you do , acept them from your side, notify Us, and lets just have some pure fun...


See? Easy...

[Gandalf]

Our problems with gang wars that we tried in the past have been this:

- As soon as a war ends people start thinking of new 'reasons' (three of ours were killed so we will revenge them is one of the worst) and gather for the next war. This gives the impression of a DM server especially if it happens near places where many new players are.  Gang wars should be treated serious and limited.

- People have complained when they lost, or have complained because of SWAT/ARPD intervention and suspecting those partaking.

- Gang wars have nothing at stake. In real life gang wars are not frequent, because people die and nobody wants to lose his life without reason.

Gang wars should be something people enjoy, not something that pisses off half the players and admins. If you can work out something together, we are not against.

[9r2e5i3k]

Voted no.

Gang wars would induce deathmatching. The word 'war' will just make people go bananas and get guns to kill each other, because of a gang war. While actually no one thinks about making a 'gang war' without guns and killing each other...

It just soooooo easy to make this working nice without lots of effort......

Easiest is to go to a deathmatch server.

[Cofiliano]

Voted no.

Gang wars would induce deathmatching. The word 'war' will just make people go bananas and get guns to kill each other, because of a gang war. While actually no one thinks about making a 'gang war' without guns and killing each other...

Easiest is to go to a deathmatch server.

Why shoud we go to DM server ? why dont you go to other server then forcing us to go ? Are we gonna in danger you ? Yes if you come in the midle of it, but honsetly? NO. So dont force us out and destory our way of RP, cause its more then SHOTING, and  its none of your bizz, so please stay a side..

[NitrOx]

Grzesiek, you are missing the WHOLE point, this is not about New Players Gang- Wars, this is about GROUP Wars, groups that Have Experience in Argonath RPG and know how to handle it, Now I am trying to work something out with EVERYONE, as it seems, the more people are agreeing then disagreeing so in my opinion like Gandalf stated, we should work something out, so EVERYONE if you have IDEAS please post them now and I will post them at this Topics Main Page so that we can remember them at one place.

Thanks
Post Merge: June 19, 2009, 02:15:36 pmYes, it is more then shooting alone, it is about Integrity of players and Roleplay. Also of enjoying some actioninstead of the old-fashioned Cop-Can-Kill-Criminals-All-Day-Oh-My-God-Lame-way.

[David_Omid]

groups that Have Experience in Argonath RPG and know how to handle it

What kind of experience? Know how to handle what?

If you are honestly suggesting that only older groups should be allowed to have gang wars, then think of the complaints...

And no, you guys can't handle it - every time there has been a gang war there have been complaints

[NitrOx]

What kind of experience? Know how to handle what?

If you are honestly suggesting that only older groups should be allowed to have gang wars, then think of the complaints...

And no, you guys can't handle it - every time there has been a gang war there have been complaints

David, you are still so smart but yet so thinking ignorant, I am not implying that older groups only may have group wars, I am implying that EVERY Group may have a WAR;

As long as it is a group, as you stated; everyone will go boom banana boom on each other, you are wrong, there are civilians aswell.

Now let's focus on getting ideas please.
Post Merge: June 19, 2009, 02:19:21 pmExperience in NOT complaining, in NOT flaming, in ROLEPLAYING during wars.

[David_Omid]

What kind of experience? Know how to handle what?

If you are honestly suggesting that only older groups should be allowed to have gang wars, then think of the complaints...

And no, you guys can't handle it - every time there has been a gang war there have been complaints

David, you are still so smart but yet so thinking ignorant, I am not implying that older groups only may have group wars, I am implying that EVERY Group may have a WAR;

As long as it is a group, as you stated; everyone will go boom banana boom on each other, you are wrong, there are civilians aswell.

Now let's focus on getting ideas please.

What DID you mean when you said something about experience?

[NitrOx]

I allready posted..

[David_Omid]

Experience in NOT complaining, in NOT flaming, in ROLEPLAYING during wars.

Oh, in that case, nobody can have gang wars according to that


Simply because EVERYONE complaints, flames and there is ALWAYS a lack in roleplay as everyone is shooting...

[Pancher]

Why shoud we go to DM server ? why dont you go to other server then forcing us to go ? Are we gonna in danger you ? Yes if you come in the midle of it, but honsetly? NO. So dont force us out and destory our way of RP, cause its more then SHOTING, and  its none of your bizz, so please stay a side..

First of all, he do not force you, he suggest you can move to an Death Match server.
Second of all, you need to follow the Argonath Rules and RP after them, not make your own rules and refer to them. IF you have some guidelines that you follow to make the Rp easier under the Argonath Rules, go for it.

[NitrOx]

Oh, in that case, nobody can have gang wars according to that


Simply because EVERYONE complaints, flames and there is ALWAYS a lack in roleplay as everyone is shooting...

David, that is one of the goals I am trying to imply here;

-Stop the Complaints.
-Stop the Flaming
-There is NOT always a lack in roleplay allready so that doesnt really needs fixing, because currently at this rate; the Main Groups ARE having lots and lots of roleplay in it.

Thank you.

[Pancher]

Also i can already see that does side you stated follows those rules doesn't follow it Cofi..

[NitrOx]

I would like to ask everyone to post an Suggestion.

Suggestions should not be: Fuck off and go to a DM server/Not allowed.

Please  ausggestion which fixes it.

 :ps:
pancher = redcat