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Offline NitrOxTopic starter

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Reply #150 on: June 20, 2009, 08:32:24 pm
I locked it to show how the results are over a 100 People, will open it now, results are about 70/30.



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Reply #151 on: June 20, 2009, 08:33:52 pm
Why is the poll locked? I guess there is more then 106 regulars and players on this server  :neutral:
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Reply #152 on: June 20, 2009, 10:10:24 pm
I locked it to show how the results are over a 100 People, will open it now, results are about 70/30.

Maybe there are half of the thousand who would vote no :')? Current results...



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Reply #153 on: June 20, 2009, 11:19:30 pm
Waiting for answer on my Suggestion..



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Reply #154 on: June 20, 2009, 11:22:11 pm
Montana accepts your terms and rules.



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Reply #155 on: June 21, 2009, 12:02:53 am
Question to Nitrox, How should admins, in your eyes, do to stop those who you would claim "moan" and etc over main chat or against reports of "dm" when people claims its RP and both sides agree and admins still get's reports of "dm" and "gang war"? without players start moan at admins for doing there job?

Cos at the moment when admins do there job they get blamed at EVEN if people knows the rules VERY WELL!.

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Reply #156 on: June 21, 2009, 07:18:19 am
Question to Nitrox, How should admins, in your eyes, do to stop those who you would claim "moan" and etc over main chat or against reports of "dm" when people claims its RP and both sides agree and admins still get's reports of "dm" and "gang war"? without players start moan at admins for doing there job?

Cos at the moment when admins do there job they get blamed at EVEN if people knows the rules VERY WELL!.

It woudnt be Admin responsibility Pancher, it woud be ours responsobility ( Group leaders) to prevent it, or punish if that does happend. If someone doesnt like does rules and is part of a group that acepted then, he can  change group, swich Characters or deal with it .....

This all started with one friendly PM to NitrOx, now after only 2 days, we made it happend ;)

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Reply #157 on: June 21, 2009, 08:19:02 am
What's wrong with you guys..
If Mafias are fighting eachothers, they don't say: Hey, Don Corleone? Don Stracci here, we want a gangwar, let's go to Flint County? Yes? Ok. See ya there. I mean look at this, it's just obviously plain idiotic. Gangwars should be allowed EVERYWHERE!
To begin with, there are no Mafia's actually role-playing something like an inner society, hidden from the civilians' eyes.
I really doubt that real Mafia's will start a fight everywhere they want, especially in front of a police department..

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Because then, the real RP starts with the Police, Medics, News etc.
You think Mafia's want to be all over the news? Do you think they want cops to investigate them more?
Sure they want - they are pathetic attention seekers..  :lol: :rofl:



Stop watching pathetic movies about Mafia's and shit.
You basically know nothing about their real behaviour.



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Reply #158 on: June 21, 2009, 11:57:06 am
i voted yes!! , i agreed


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Reply #159 on: June 21, 2009, 12:20:47 pm
I voted Yes too ;) its a great idea NitrOx!



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Reply #160 on: June 21, 2009, 12:58:15 pm
You think Mafia's want to be all over the news? Do you think they want cops to investigate them more?
Sure they want - they are pathetic attention seekers..  :lol: :rofl:

Its not about the mafia part, its about the possibilities for other players whose roles aren't used that much (medics, news guys, etc).
Don't you think that would be nice?

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Reply #161 on: June 21, 2009, 01:52:38 pm
What's wrong with you guys..
If Mafias are fighting eachothers, they don't say: Hey, Don Corleone? Don Stracci here, we want a gangwar, let's go to Flint County? Yes? Ok. See ya there.

I mean look at this, it's just obviously plain idiotic.


Gangwars should be allowed EVERYWHERE! Because then, the real RP starts with the Police, Medics, News etc.
Stop looking at bad movies and think about real life.
A mafia will not come with 20 people and organize a shootout in the middle of a city centre. Too much risk of being arrested and/or spotted by the authorities.

In fact a mafia shootout will only be if there is a major conflict that can not be resolved otherwise.
In such cases the groups will agree on a meeting in a place where they:
- will not hurt innocent bystanders, as murdering innocents is against the criminal code
- are likely to escape should someone have informed the cops
- can post guards to ensure that no unexpected rival groups or cops will show up without notice

So lets make something about our view:
What is a mafia ?
A mafia is a group or 'family' that lives by organized crime.

Why do mafia's exist ?
In a city where the authorities have limited control, and cops can easily be corrupted, crime goes up without limits. Then groups of criminal start to organize to keep their own neighbourhood free of the constant robbing, kidnappings and other crimes. They will protect the citizens and business owners, and take care of their territory... at a price.

Does a mafia kill innocent people ?
No. They work by a strict code, that does not allow any member to kill innocent people that have done no harm. Any memebr of a mafia that is caught doing this will be punished, to death if they did not do it by accident.

Why ? They are criminals
Being involved in crime does not mean being a psychopath. Mafia members are people who care about others, their wives and children, and who do not think of how to make the most killings every day. They will resort to violence instead of caling the cops if they or those who are under their protection are threatened.

Do rival mafia's kill each other when they meet ?
Most of the times, no. If they meet rival mafias will resolve a conflict peacefully. If the lower members get in to a conflict when they meet on the streets, they inform the leaders of what happened. Then there can be two possibilities. Either it is clear who is wrong, and this is sovled between the leaders, there can be compensation and punishment for those who broke the code. Or both stay on their point of view, and a meeting is arranged to clear the conflict.

What happens at such meeting ?
That depends. There still is room for peace, as nobody wishes to die. But if all fails it does result in a shootout. the winning group then takes what their win was about, and the losing (if survived) will continue minus what they lost.

Does the losing group revenge ?
No. They just got their best people killed, how could they revenge ? Also the shootout is the end of that conflict. Any group who after a shootout refuses to accept the result will be out of respect from all groups and will be made to disappear.

What if a new group comes and start using  force on civilians to get territory ?
If they do not obey the code, they will be attacked by all other groups and disappear.

Ok...out of RP/RL mode.
Look at this post, and see what this means for your mafia RP and gang wars.
Make a clear proposition with all points of how to organize it and what the rules will be. Then we will decide.
In the mean time, do not organize mass shootouts.

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Reply #162 on: June 21, 2009, 01:55:25 pm
Its not about the mafia part, its about the possibilities for other players whose roles aren't used that much (medics, news guys, etc).
Don't you think that would be nice?

I never seen an medic or news guy in middle of a gang war (They come after when people are heavy wounded and etc.). I doubt they even would have the nuts to g near one ingame cos they would be shoot to death due the fire-power and amount of people ruining in circles.

Alos any server rule break is an admin matter.. So we will not ignore if someone is dm, flaming and so on... at least not me.

If gang leaders will/want help to minimize the amount of DM and flamers and etc that's just a lot of +++++ and supported!.

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Reply #163 on: June 21, 2009, 04:11:59 pm
I personally would like to see and allow a decent gangwar, but with what I've seen and heard makes me doubt that a gangwar like that would ever occur. And ever exist. It attracts deathmatch etc. It will most likely will. Having this said, I would like for gang-wars to be allowed for a 'test-period'. No harm in that, right? I want you guys to prove me wrong. I really do.



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Reply #164 on: June 21, 2009, 04:25:46 pm
There have been gang wars all the time anyway



 


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