[Petition]

[Gandalf]

I woud realy like to know what is strong enough reason that can cause gangwar.... from Main Admins view.

- a dispute over a business, winner gets the business
- compensation was requested for a loss, but refused. If the demanding party wins they get the compensation, otherwise not.
- a group ratted on another group that got arrested by the FBI. They feel their honour is insulted and want retribution.

The "I hate you, you hate me, lets fight" as Panda suggested would be ok except that it would be played out several times a day. with at least 10 groups on server it would be easy to find a gang war going on at any moment, and that is not the idea. Just like kidnappings and robberies get incredibly boring if they happen 100 times a day, same is for gang wars. With the addition that new players will get involved too easy as they tend to go where there are many people.

[Cofiliano]

- a dispute over a business, winner gets the business
- compensation was requested for a loss, but refused. If the demanding party wins they get the compensation, otherwise not.

Can any older player then me ( more then 1,4 years ) , tell me when was the last time any criminal group on server done this, not to mention payed the compensation?

[Boxy]

Never heard of it, Cofi.

[MarioRinarri]

Can any older player then me ( more then 1,4 years ) , tell me when was the last time any criminal group on server done this, not to mention payed the compensation?

I've been here since =MS= times, however I haven't heard of such situations.
I think you work will fall short of expectations.

[Gandalf]

Can any older player then me ( more then 1,4 years ) , tell me when was the last time any criminal group on server done this, not to mention payed the compensation?

Stracci vs [V], [V] lost their HQ.

[shitix]

Stracci vs [V], [V] lost their HQ.

it was [VG] :P yeh i lost my bizz and house thanks to that war, even had to close the gang D:

[Julian]

Damn that war was so fun, even though we lost..

[TruthSvensson]

Yehaha i remember that day it was fun ( then shitix refused to pay the money of house :P )

[Harald]

You can't force someone to give you his/her assets if no agreement from the very first place  :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules: :rules:

Requires organized gangwar - with an OOC deal from the beginning  :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn: :gn:

 stop using too much smilies

[8793574]

Dude !! you use too much Smileys

[Julian]

Smiley spam ftw

[Harald]

I'm tired. Said "good night", but didn't go to bed.
Anyway. Now it's time for  :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:
Lunch.
Sorry for the smileys. May God be with you.  :pop:
No DMing  :m4: :sig:
That will make people cry  :hit:...
...and moan  :flame:  :flame:  :flame: :devroll:
Leads to flaming, happiness and...confusion  :trust: :conf: :razz:

Whatever.
Just, gang wars should be allowed, but as many stated before.
Organized, both side's agreements in OOC from the beginning.
Just  :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :m4: :sig: :sig: :sig: :sig: :sig: :sig: and no scamming, flaming or treathening meanwhile should be allowed.

[Gandalf]

You can't force someone to give you his/her assets if no agreement from the very first place 

Requires organized gangwar - with an OOC deal from the beginning 

 stop using too much smilies

1. Yes we can.
2. A fight about an asset is not OOC at all, even if there would be OOC and IC.

[Harald]

First of all, smileys are here for use.
Nothing will happen neither.
System wont crash, if - it would have crashed long time ago.
Secondly, remove the smileys if they are NOT suppose to be used, or just mute them. I think there is a possibility to do that.
It's an emotion, a way to express yourself. Shouldn't matter how much you use.
Look around in every f**king topic on the forum and you'll see "smiley spammers" as you prefer to call it.
Warn them please, to make this a fair game.
Thirdly. This hangs with the 2 first ones.
Write that in forum rules: "Don't abuse smileys". I'm sure the react will lead:
  Lame. "Abuse smileys"? Do you even hear how it sounds like.

Another topic.
You can't just start a war with a family, and then the winner of the war says that the losers shall give them what they want. Which means you will need too talk in OOC/IC before. But..IC: "Hey, you. Stracci guy. If we win this way - give us your castle!", that..sounds... :trust:?
So yes, you gotta talk before the gangwar.

About the 1st answer you gave me. Perhaps ADMINS can, but players...
"Hey, you. Yes, you. Give me your car or I'll report you to admins". "OK, because Gandalf said you can do that by a reason, so, here you go".

 We make the rules. You have a choice, follow them or stop posting.

[Gandalf]

Another topic.
You can't just start a war with a family, and then the winner of the war says that the losers shall give them what they want. Which means you will need too talk in OOC/IC before. But..IC: "Hey, you. Stracci guy. If we win this way - give us your castle!", that..sounds... :trust:?
So yes, you gotta talk before the gangwar.

About the 1st answer you gave me. Perhaps ADMINS can, but players...
"Hey, you. Yes, you. Give me your car or I'll report you to admins". "OK, because Gandalf said you can do that by a reason, so, here you go".

 We make the rules. You have a choice, follow them or stop posting.

I guess you do not get the idea of RP at all.
Before starting a gang war, you need to have a RP reason why you are going to get a gang war.
That should not be like 'ok what we fight about', but a good RP leading to a reason why all people involved would risk losing their life. In theory the time to build up a gang war can be days or weeks.

If a gang war is settled and the losing party does not want to give up what they lost, we can enforce it. That is what I meant, not a random  give it to me', which is not allowed even for the highest leaders without reason.