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Reply #270 on: June 25, 2009, 01:25:09 am
I totally agree with Daniel, and inherently disagree with any rules around gangwars whatsoever. I'm happy for total all out warfare 24/7.
That said, war is bloody expensive and I know the Araatus/Gvardia war totally burned half my cash in 2 weeks.

Whatever I think, the main admins want rules - the gangs are happy without but as we are on Argonath we must adhere to server rules, same applies here. :)

Why can't we just use Paruni, it not like a lot of people /me when doing a gangwar, they just shoot... it will reduce a hell of a lot of moaning on main chat - but give more work for Paruni admins, but I don't mind that myself.

I personally am against the 24/7 gangwaring idea, as it will involve people coming back after death, spawn killing, starting gang war for no proper reasons and a whole host of things by some people.

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Reply #271 on: June 25, 2009, 01:26:47 am
This server will just turn into a DM server with cops and robbers and regular group wars eventually. :trust:

Man, that would be expensive.. good fun for awhile though.


Why can't we just use Paruni, it not like a lot of people /me when doing a gangwar, they just shoot...

Yea I guess, but Paruni is an awful faff when I could just charge straight up to Gvardia and attack (hypothetically).

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Reply #272 on: June 25, 2009, 01:30:31 am
Yea I guess, but Paruni is an awful faff when I could just charge straight up to Gvardia and attack (hypothetically).

You will probably get reported for deathmatching by some who don't understand gang war roleplay yet... I think Paruni is the best way forward, I would like to see Argonath RPG still as a RPG server, allowing gang wars with rules that 95 per cent of the new members of gangs/mafias will not follow will essentially remove the Argonath from the RPG.

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Reply #273 on: June 25, 2009, 02:23:39 am
You will probably get reported for deathmatching by some who don't understand gang war roleplay yet... I think Paruni is the best way forward, I would like to see Argonath RPG still as a RPG server, allowing gang wars with rules that 95 per cent of the new members of gangs/mafias will not follow will essentially remove the Argonath from the RPG.

IF they dont follow the rules, they get punish, easy.

Moving to Paruni ? Hell no. It loses it touch, atmosphere, its like lets move to Call Of Duty, and have a shoutout to resolve our issues...

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Reply #274 on: June 25, 2009, 03:03:45 am
IF they dont follow the rules, they get punish, easy.

Moving to Paruni ? Hell no. It loses it touch, atmosphere, its like lets move to Call Of Duty, and have a shoutout to resolve our issues...

And banning half of the server won't cause more moaning?

What do you mean it looses its touch? Its exactly the same thing, you are shooting other people for no reason apart from they have a tag that you don't like or that they killed you some day last month. Gangwars are not in arenas in real life if you are trying to imply that Paruni is a DM server, so it is different from the gang wars that happen today, you are giving an opinion without any substancial proof behind it. I've seen good shootouts between Corleone, Old Montana Stracci and Araatus, a long time ago, and I will be the first to say, there was good roleplay, nobody moaned, nobody came back, nobody hacked, nobody spawnkilled, nobody revengekilled two days after the gang war and followed all the rules but most of all it was actually fun spending half your cash on unrestricted gang wars, but sadly I haven't seen a proper no moaning shootout with any other group other than them four for quite some time.

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Reply #275 on: June 25, 2009, 07:38:32 am
Violet thats the old good old days.. those are no more... evenything is different now.. so many possibilities are gone...



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Reply #276 on: June 25, 2009, 09:45:01 am
If you guys are not going to follow rules, we will not allow gang wars.
Simple.

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Reply #277 on: June 25, 2009, 09:48:54 am
If you guys are not going to follow rules, we will not allow gang wars.
Simple.
We will follow the rules :D



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Reply #278 on: June 25, 2009, 11:36:08 am
Moving to Paruni ? Hell no. It loses it touch, atmosphere, its like lets move to Call Of Duty, and have a shoutout to resolve our issues...

You're just saying that because you get owned on Paruni.



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Reply #279 on: June 25, 2009, 11:56:35 am
We will follow the rules :D

Yeah right, more like bend the rules and for how long will you follow the rules? :poke:



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Reply #280 on: June 25, 2009, 12:29:59 pm
Violet if the gangwars are on Paruni (which i 30% like) how is what gandalf said going to be used?

When gangs have a war over a business the winning gang gets the bizz.

How is that going to be kept if they use paruni?


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Reply #281 on: June 25, 2009, 12:38:02 pm
So the Main Admins are still waiting for a Reason why to have a war with someone, someone please get an idea for that.

Thanks

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I totally agree with Daniel, and inherently disagree with any rules around gangwars whatsoever. I'm happy for total all out warfare 24/7.
That said, war is bloody expensive and I know the Araatus/Gvardia war totally burned half my cash in 2 weeks.

Whatever I think, the main admins want rules - the gangs are happy without but as we are on Argonath we must adhere to server rules, same applies here. :)

I agree, wars are expensive to finance, so it wouldnt be 24-7 anyways, I guess.



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Reply #282 on: June 25, 2009, 12:52:33 pm
If Cems takes over Straccis HQ, can Stracci try to take it back like in.. 2 weeks?


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Reply #283 on: June 25, 2009, 12:54:49 pm
So the Main Admins are still waiting for a Reason why to have a war with someone, someone please get an idea for that.

Thanks
Some pretty simple suggestions:
* Mafia A gives the FBI some information about Mafia B. Mafia B feels that their reputation got damaged and starts a mob war.

* Mafia A starts doing crimes at the territory of Mafia B. Mafia B doesn't find that appropriate and starts a mob war.

* Mafia's A and C are doing a deal at their HQ. Mafia B breaks into the HQ, starts a shoot-out, making mobsters fall back, and leaves with cash and drugs. Mafia's A and C declare a war against Mafia B.

* Mafia A accepts a hit on the consigliere of Mafia B. The consigliere got shot at, however the assassination has failed. The bullet went through his hand into his leg. The consigliere survived, but he had to use wheelchair for a month (Real-life week or 5 days for example - just an example of role-play). He recognised some of the people who were after him. Mafia B declared a war against Mafia A.

* Mafia A attempts to take over the contacts of Mafia B (government workers, corrupt cops, etc.). Mafia B finds out about it and declares a mob war..

* Mafia A takes over a business (for example a taxi company , whatever) of Mafia B. Mafia B declares a war.. bla bla bla


Lots of situations can happen...

If Cems takes over Straccis HQ, can Stracci try to take it back like in.. 2 weeks?
This simply is not appropriate, gangs are more like street thugs, they shouldn't be involved in mob wars...
Mafia's should be much more serious comparing to gangs.



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Reply #284 on: June 25, 2009, 01:10:39 pm
Yeah right, more like bend the rules and for how long will you follow the rules? :poke:
I hope the weapon prizes will raise, cos at the moment it's like buying candy and you get some metal bullets instead  :redface: Cos at the moment not many is careful with there life's or items they have on themselves cos it's to cheap..

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