LGBT Argonath players....

[Miami]

You will be muted.

MyleS, you are litrally making me go O_o
There is a huge difference with what you said, compared to what I said. You don't seem to be realising this for some odd reason.

He would not get muted just for saying that one word; 'fag'. If you muted someone for just saying 'fag', that would be a little out of order.
But if he used it in an insulting sentence, then in the right circumstances he would get a warning...

you still broke the rules, kept yourself clean and punished others...
your reaction showed me that you're not proud of what you really are, and that corruption is another reason you just gave me to dislike them more.

Like I said above, I really don't think you realise the difference between what I said compared to what you said and what 'qualifies' for a punishment.

But look, I give up. If you do not like Gay people then please.. just leave them be. Don't bad mouth them, or treat them badly. They have never done anything to you - so don't do anything to them. Okay?

I cannot win this argument.. I am too sick and tired of such ignorant-closed minded individuals like you so I will not carry on. Your ignorance and stubbornness seems to fight against my logic and reasoning that I am giving you.

Yes, this is the 21st century where people can believe anything they want.
Do not assume that a guy is immature or has been brainwashed because he hates gay people. It's like people hating blacks and jews and there's not much you can do about it.
You're like: "IF YOU DONT LIKE ME GTFO" and that seems kind of immature to me.

Oliver - what I meant when I said that its now the 21st century is not exactly how you thought I meant.
What I meant is that its alot more accepted now, compared to previous times.. The world is more open to different kinds of people now. So why is it that some people still 'lag behind'?

[Boxy]

So why is it that some people still 'lag behind'?

Because they can, what are you going to do about it?

[Oliver]

Oliver - what I meant when I said that its now the 21st century is not exactly how you thought I meant.
What I meant is that its alot more accepted now, compared to previous times.. The world is more open to different kinds of people now. So why is it that some people still 'lag behind'?

People 'lag behind' because of their personal opinions.
Some people are unenlightened and brainwashed - yes - but other people will not change their opinions because of their personal experience etc.

[Miami]

People 'lag behind' because of their personal opinions.
Some people are unenlightened and brainwashed - yes - but other people will not change their opinions because of their personal experience etc.

Hmm, Okay well.. I see.

Because they can, what are you going to do about it?

Not really much I or others can do about it..

[MyleS]

Yes, this is the 21st century where people can believe anything they want.
Do not assume that a guy is immature or has been brainwashed because he hates gay people. It's like people hating blacks and jews and there's not much you can do about it.
You're like: "IF YOU DONT LIKE ME GTFO" and that seems kind of immature to me.

i still have no problem with races or anything same, i respect religions, races and many different things, but come on?! homo'...

But look, I give up. If you do not like Gay people then please.. just leave them be. Don't bad mouth them, or treat them badly. They have never done anything to you - so don't do anything to them. Okay?

If this wasnt meant to be discussed like this, the topic should have been named the topic (Gays Only). The topic exists whoever wanted it to be discussed should have been aware that there will be problems like this, and take all responsability...

I cannot win this argument.. I am too sick and tired of such ignorant-closed minded individuals like you so I will not carry on. Your ignorance and stubbornness seems to fight against my logic and reasoning that I am giving you.

Calling me closed minded, ignorant, stubborned... isnt really gonna change anything about me or about what i think, if there was any valid arguments i would have respected it, but you should know that at first i wasnt pointing at the homosexuels who were borned geneticly heritated from parents or whatever, but still there are some points which i might explain if needed.

[Miami]

i still have no problem with races or anything same, i respect religions, races and many different things, but come on?! homo'...

Myles, please.. You are actually pushing it now  
Atleast give respect.

Why are you so homophobic? Please answer this question as I am curious to know... Is it how you were raised? Is it a bad 'experiance'?
Please give me a detailed answer explaining.. I really would like to know. Seriously.

Also.. do you not realise your the only one here that seems to be thrown back and shocked by everyone 'getting along' with Gay people, and the LGBT people in this community or the real world.

If this wasnt meant to be discussed like this, the topic should have been named the topic (Gays Only). The topic exists whoever wanted it to be discussed should have been aware that there will be problems like this, and take all responsability...

There is nothing wrong with a constructive argument if it's kept in a civil manor, and actually, this particular subject has already been discussed somewhere in this topic (in a civil manor of course). However, if cannot keep to a civil manor and choose to be as offensive as you have, then you'll only be getting the attention of the forum moderators.

Calling me closed minded, ignorant, stubborned... isnt really gonna change anything about me or about what i think, if there was any valid arguments i would have respected it, but you should know that at first i wasnt pointing at the homosexuels who were borned geneticly heritated from parents or whatever, but still there are some points which i might explain if needed.

Okay then I will stop that then. I've said already.. I cannot do much more.
But can you try to understand the point im trying to make? Proberly not...

Anyways - Please answer the question I asked at the beginning of my post. Much appreciated.
Thanks..

[Aksel]

Asking a question like "Why are there homophobic people" is like asking why black people are on the earth...

[Miami]

Asking a question like "Why are there homophobic people" is like asking why black people are on the earth...

I really don't think it is.. atleast not in my view.
Homophobic people can change, and I know this cos I have witnessed this..


Besides, its not a phycological thing to be black LOL

[Oliver]

Besides, its not a phycological thing to be black LOL

It's not?

[Miami]

It's not?

 

[Aksel]

Homophobic people can change, and I know this cos I have witnessed this..

ORLY, MICHAEL JACKSON WAS BLACK, AND HE IS/WAS WHITE, LOLOLBUSTED

[Miami]

ORLY, MICHAEL JACKSON WAS BLACK, AND HE IS/WAS WHITE, LOLOLBUSTED

ROFL.. okay okay but that was a different thing altoghther!   


Anyways! Back on topic please!

[MyleS]

i would like you to take back that warning, then i might be able to give you an appropriate answer.

[Kitsune]

Yes, this is the 21st century where people can believe anything they want.

That kind of chronological reference is generally associated with some sort of modern development. Homophobia and discrimination are far from being such things, but tolerance for other people is.

Because they can, what are you going to do about it?

No one does it simply because they can, and that you would be ridiculous, because then you'd just be hating other people for the sake of it. It's due to personal opinions or beliefs that they have, or other psychological matters.

i still have no problem with races or anything same, i respect religions, races and many different things, but come on?! homo'...

I must say, I'm actually quite surprised to see this sort of intolerance. I'd take it that you're not from any sort of well educated, Western society, and I'm starting to think that your homophobia has a relation to your social environment. How is homosexuality viewed in general, around where you live?

If this wasnt meant to be discussed like this, the topic should have been named the topic (Gays Only). The topic exists whoever wanted it to be discussed should have been aware that there will be problems like this, and take all responsability...

As per Miami's quote of what I stated previously about acting in a civil manor.

Asking a question like "Why are there homophobic people" is like asking why black people are on the earth...

Homophobia is physiological, skin colour isn't.

i would like you to take back that warning, then i might be able to give you an appropriate answer.

Conditional good behaviour, is far from a ticket out of a warning, nor do such statements reflect positively on your attitude. You should be responding appropriately, regardless.

Heterosexual couples practice anal sex too, and not all gays like it either

Oh yes, I forgot to mention this. Foxclaw, would it be right to assume that you hate heterosexual couples that engage in anal sex as well? Also, would it be right to assume that you're just dandy with homosexual couples that don't engage in anal sex? If not, then it is evident that you were not divulging the true reason to why you are so homophobic, and instead discussing an excuse.

Though I find it odd that you'd hate someone for liking a particular sexual activity that you do not. If you don't like it, then don't do it, but I don't see why you'd hate someone for doing it.
Post Merge: September 19, 2009, 02:04:24 amNoticing that you're from Morocco, Foxclaw, I decided to conduct some quick research.

Article 489 of the Penal Code of Morocco criminalizes “lewd or unnatural acts with an individual of the same sex.” Homosexuality is illegal in Morocco and can be punished with anything from 6 months to 3 years imprisonment and a fine of 120 to 1200 dirhams.

Intolerance and ignorance, at it's finest. This is indeed, far from anything remotely close to 21st century thinking.

[MyleS]

Noticing that you're from Morocco, Foxclaw, I decided to conduct some quick research.Intolerance and ignorance, at it's finest. This is indeed, far from anything remotely close to 21st century thinking.

Morocco has really nothing to do with what i think, in my experience, ive faced problems with gays everywhere i went, from which Morocco, its my origin country and i use to stay max 1Month, of course at the moment its been 4 months now, due to a training jobs that brought me there, and YES there was gays problem too... i dont wanna go to details and release more about some personal things and share my experience, due to the bad cirsumstances of discussion.
but i can tell you one thing i believe in:

Being homosexual isn't really bad. It's when this manifests itself in physical acts, it's the homosexual acts that are bad. The acts that i hate, the acts that most of gays do...