LGBT Argonath players....

[Void]

Got any proof?

My neighbor.
He's been molested as a child. While we were racing down the streets, he was playing barbies and hoping the rope.
His father hit him, because of that. Now he dresses in pink shirt and black pants. Has a hippie hat and talks/walks like a female.
Yes, he swings his hips while walking.

 

[rJCaiG]

That is no proof that being gay is genetic and you're therefore born with it....

[Void]

That is no proof that being gay is genetic and you're therefore born with it....

Yet, it has no proof that it is a chosen lifestyle. Certain psychological reactions cause this error.
Heck, homosexual activists promote "gay" as irreversible and genetic.Gay men tend to have older brothers. Indeed, the more biological older brothers a man has, the greater his likelihood of being gay.This leads Bogart(If you ever heard of him) to conclude that a man's sexual orientation is influenced by the conditions in his mother's womb when he was a fetus; with successive male children triggering changes in the mother's body that increase the chances that subsequent male children will be gay. This so-called fraternal gay birth effect creates a prenatal environment that fosters homosexuality in younger sons.

[Oliver]

To anyone disagreeing with Giac: Show me proof that owning a pet is genetic. I'd also like to request proof that drinking alcohol or having friends is genetic.

Void, where do you get that shit? It's freaking genius, man.

[rJCaiG]

Yet, it has no proof that it is a chosen lifestyle. Certain psychological reactions cause this error.
Heck, homosexual activists promote "gay" as irreversible and genetic.Gay men tend to have older brothers. Indeed, the more biological older brothers a man has, the greater his likelihood of being gay.This leads Bogart(If you ever heard of him) to conclude that a man's sexual orientation is influenced by the conditions in his mother's womb when he was a fetus; with successive male children triggering changes in the mother's body that increase the chances that subsequent male children will be gay. This so-called fraternal gay birth effect creates a prenatal environment that fosters homosexuality in younger sons.

I want proof of your invalid, inconclusive, insane arguments that make zero sense.

[Void]

Void, where do you get that shit? It's freaking genius, man.

Turn the sarcasm off. I say what I read, I don't make any of this up.
Giac walk through your city and observe gay people. They're way of thinking, check even how they pick up a coin from the ground or something.
Their body language, look(eyes). Process of doing some things, and you'll realize its different, but I cannot prove anything to you as you expect something giant, but big facts hide in the little ones.Ever heard of phrenology?Its pretty much imprecise but its fascinating to come up with such a thing. Its not in the abstract thinking.

[Oliver]

Giac walk through your city and observe gay people. They're way of thinking, check even how they pick up a coin from the ground or something.

What kind of a bloody creep goes around town observing people? Your argument made you seem like a complete antisocial prick, GG.

[Void]

What kind of a bloody creep goes around town observing people? Your argument made you seem like a complete antisocial prick, GG.

Because of my way of writing, it seemed I'm an anti social person. You don't need to stalk people to get them, and see some things.
"Walking through town" = living a life. I presume that you see gay people around your town? If not you're not up to this conversation.

[Oliver]

I presume that you see gay people around your town?

I don't really know if a person is gay or not unless I ask them or they tell me. I could never tell a gay person just by his actions (unless, of course, said person is a moron with a mental illness that goes around acting feminine. Those people are EXTREMELY rare though.)
I know gay folk that are normal in every way except they like boys instead of girls.

[Cero]

How the hell do you see if someone is gay? lol

[Void]

I don't really know if a person is gay or not unless I ask them or they tell me. I could never tell a gay person just by his actions (unless, of course, said person is a moron with a mental illness that goes around acting feminine. Those people are EXTREMELY rare though.)
I know gay folk that are normal in every way except they like boys instead of girls.

Maybe I can tell, just because I'm in preps for behaviorism psychology?  :redface:

[Pandalink]

Great, the only person we have trying to argue for this is a psychologist.
There goes logic out the window then.

Like I said, I'm not going to argue because I don't really care one way or another.
However I still think anyone who says it's a choice is ignorant. Why? Because as I also just said, who the hell actually wants to be gay? And if it is a choice, then why do those christian brainwashing camps not work?

ITT: Republicans.


Read earlier in the thread, and you will actually find me refuting claims that you're born exactly one way or the other. However, at no point did you ever see me claiming it was a direct and intentional choice.
My theory is that you're born a certain way. That way that you're born alters how you're subconciously affected by environmental factors. This explains how you can have twins with differing orientations.
However, this still suggests a direct genetic link to orientation, rather than a choice as you suggest.

This theory fits well with me because I'm bisexual, rather than gay. If I'd actually ever had a girlfriend when I was younger, it's possible I would be putting off the thoughts about guys as nothing important and ignoring it - thus I would consider myself a straight guy that's attracted to guys for a mysterious reason. :roll:

[Void]

Great, the only person we have trying to argue for this is a psychologist.

....My theory is that you're born a certain way. That way that you're born alters how you're subconciously affected by environmental factors. This explains how you can have twins with differing orientations.However, this still suggests a direct genetic link to orientation, rather than a choice as you suggest.

You make it sound like a bad thing  :roll:
Some scientists done some research of two twins, and the result was, that one is gay and another is heterosexual.
We all are born in a certain way, its like a lotto. Who said we are arguing?

[Vince]

coley why did you bump this topic.

[Pandalink]

coley why did you bump this topic.

Because the new one that someone made was rubbish.