define:Carjacking

[AMahone]

What does a player have to do to break the carjack rule?

Is it just one motion? I.E.: John_Doe walks up to John_Deer's car and pulls him out, but does not get in the car.

Or does it have to be the complete motion? I.E.: John_Doe walks up to John_Deer's car and pulls him out, and sits in his car and drives off.

Which one is not allowed? And where exactly does the carjacking rule begin?

[Kitsune]

Regardless of whether you get inside the vehicle or not, if you pull the player out, it's considered car-jacking.

[MarioRinarri]

If both examples are what you think should be typed in /me - both are power-emotes.
It's just the same as approaching a vehicle, pushing F and driving off.

Vehicle hi-jacking should be allowed only whether it includes role-play.

[(tr)Ollie]

As long as it it is RPed, not your example, I think it should be perfectly all right.

[JDC]

As long as both sides RP the car jacking, it's okay.


Good:

**Guy1 walks up to Guy2's car and knocks on the door
**Guy2 rolls down the Window
**Guy1 aims a Deagle at Guy2's face and says: "Out of the car!"
**Guy2 gets out of the car with his hands up
**Guy1 gets in the car and drives off


Bad:

**Guy1 walks up to Guy2's car
**Guy1 opens the door and pulls Guy2 out
Guy1: move bitch (Presses 'F', carjacks Guy2)
**Guy1 drives away

[JDC]

This baisicly makes the whole police force rulebreakers, lol...

A Cop or Fed pulling a criminal out of a car is an exception, but a criminal pulling a Cop or a Fed out of a car is not. I love this town

[Gandalf]

This baisicly makes the whole police force rulebreakers, lol...

Cops are allowed to remove suspects from a vehicle.

So when is it considered carjacking:
- a player initiates the remove of another player from a vehicle without his permission
- a player steals the car of a player standing close to it while it is used in RP.

What is NOT carjacking:
- a cop removes a suspect from his car
- a player removes another player from his car in clear RP.
- a player takes a car where no other player is standing near.

What is 'bugged'  in carjacking:
- When returning to server a player gets in to his car finding someone else inside when entering
- a player enters a car that is in desync, teleporting and jacking another player or car only

Punishment:
- When admins receive a report they will check the area of the reporter and the reported. If they match, and the reported is in a vehicle, he wil be frozen. If the reported player is far away, he will be spectated, however jacking is not punished.
- When a player jacks a cop (no matter if freecop or not), the cop has the right to suspect him instantly. This is NOT to be cancelled, except in case it was desync.

[Lamar Diasso]

Punishment:
- When admins receive a report they will check the area of the reporter and the reported. If they match, and the reported is in a vehicle, he wil be frozen. If the reported player is far away, he will be spectated, however jacking is not punished.
- When a player jacks a cop (no matter if freecop or not), the cop has the right to suspect him instantly. This is NOT to be cancelled, except in case it was desync.

Oh, so that's why nothing happens to my carjacking reports.
Anyway, the second "punishment", what if the player accidently would have jacked him but later on said "sorry" in OOC chat and tell it was an accident? No? Not valid? The policeman still allowed to suspect?

[Kitsune]

Anyway, the second "punishment", what if the player accidently would have jacked him but later on said "sorry" in OOC chat and tell it was an accident? No? Not valid? The policeman still allowed to suspect?

If the police agree that it was in fact an accident, he can request to have his suspect canceled

Oh, so that's why nothing happens to my carjacking reports.

Depending on how it pans out, sometimes you may have your car returned to you. If I confirm car-jacking, I get the car-jacker the return the vehicle (that's assuming they're not too far away).

[Gandalf]

Oh, so that's why nothing happens to my carjacking reports.

Unofficial warning: that you do not see a reaction does not mean nothing happens. Please understand that 'nothing happens' is an insult to the admin team.

Anyway, the second "punishment", what if the player accidently would have jacked him but later on said "sorry" in OOC chat and tell it was an accident? No? Not valid? The policeman still allowed to suspect?

There is no OOC chat, so its not possible to tell anything in it.
If a player tells it was by accident, he can go to LSPD and get a cancellation of his suspect status.
Shoulsd he however accompany his request with " OMGWTFBBQ stupid cop" his suspect status should be kept for insulting the police officer.

[James_Alterlis]

Is this allowed?

Cop1 stops car of Driver1, Driver1 stops
Cop1 shouts: Get out from the car, police duty, I need ur car!
Cop1 shows badge
Driver1 gets out from car, Cop1 gets in, drives away

[Pandalink]

A Cop or Fed pulling a criminal out of a car is an exception, but a criminal pulling a Cop or a Fed out of a car is not. I love this town

Wrong, suspects can carjack cops if they are driving civilian cars (which they shouldn't be anyway, its their own fault).
The exception works both ways.

[Lamar Diasso]

Unofficial warning: that you do not see a reaction does not mean nothing happens. Please understand that 'nothing happens' is an insult to the admin team. There is no OOC chat, so its not possible to tell anything in it.

The so-called insult, as you prefer to call it - was not meant to be an insult.
You said this yourself: "If the reported player is far away, he will be spectated, however jacking is not punished.".
Everytime I get carjacked, he/she usually gets away till I finally used /report. You gave a reason why reports on carjackers aren't always answered.

There is no OOC chat? You should know by now when you use any kind of OOC sign. Such as "/l OOC: Lol no way!" or "/l (( Lol no way! ))". As no specific command is scripted for OOC chat, OOC signs used in normal /l(ocal) chat instead.
So yes, there is OOC chats. Aswell, /p and /pm is OOC.

[Kitsune]

Is this allowed?

Cop1 stops car of Driver1, Driver1 stops
Cop1 shouts: Get out from the car, police duty, I need ur car!
Cop1 shows badge
Driver1 gets out from car, Cop1 gets in, drives away

It's totally up to the civilian. Cops do not have the power to force you to hand over your car, so they can go pursue someone.

The so-called insult, as you prefer to call it - was not meant to be an insult.
You said this yourself: "If the reported player is far away, he will be spectated, however jacking is not punished.".
Everytime I get carjacked, he/she usually gets away till I finally used /report. You gave a reason why reports on carjackers aren't always answered.

A verbal warning is not considered a punishment as such, but it is a reaction to a report and one that you cannot see (unless the car-jacker is very close to you and is being verbally warned in local chat). That is how saying that nothing happens if you see nothing happen is wrong.

There is no OOC chat? You should know by now when you use any kind of OOC sign. Such as "/l OOC: Lol no way!" or "/l (( Lol no way! ))". As no specific command is scripted for OOC chat, OOC signs used in normal /l(ocal) chat instead.
So yes, there is OOC chats. Aswell, /p and /pm is OOC.

OOC is not officially recognised. We don't have those kind of servers.

[Gandalf]

There is no OOC chat? You should know by now when you use any kind of OOC sign. Such as "/l OOC: Lol no way!" or "/l (( Lol no way! ))". As no specific command is scripted for OOC chat, OOC signs used in normal /l(ocal) chat instead.
So yes, there is OOC chats. Aswell, /p and /pm is OOC.

I think that as developer and scripter I would know what kind of chat there is.
We do not wish to use a difference between IC/OOC, as that leads to people hiding flaming and swearing under the name of ' RP' . Also we as long time RPers feel that anyone should be able to tell the difference, supposing they have their brian in gear.