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Offline John_marshell

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Reply #45 on: July 20, 2009, 02:16:37 pm
Well i also agree... aragorn is speaking the truth with people reporting about everything instead of solving it themself...myself i am not in the community from old argonath.. But i can still see what aragorn is saying..



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Reply #46 on: July 20, 2009, 02:34:57 pm
I think regulars should think most about it.
I dont know if i can call myself regular now but, when i was new and i asked question from regular i almost never got answer. Even if i saw they are not AFK. I almost always try to solve things on my own, i tell people what is not allowed and so on. Everyone have sayed: Oh okay, sorry. Once newbie was ramming me, i sayed its not allowed. Than he pm-d me: F*ck you, i sayed flaming isnt allowed and he sayed sorry.
I try to be friendly as much i can and i hope noone has problems with me so far. I have flamed one guy but i hope we are fine now.
And public chat, main admins dosnt want to disable it because newbies couldnt ask questions than. We should answer if we know answer,
What if he asks if DM is allowed, noone answers and later he DM-s you and you report. Make friends, even with newbies. :)
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Reply #47 on: July 20, 2009, 03:11:03 pm
Everybody types here "I totally agree, you are so right!" and then you will close this topic and continue the same old crap...
Yes, I agree too, but I don't think that's going to change with a single topic, I think some bans and some serious talks here and there are needed in order for this to end.

hahahaha i agree you are so right! if it doesnt change from a topic made by some super nerd guy called aragorn then this world is seriously f*cked up i bet you it is the koreans who are ruining the community! with they nukeuler bombs n shii...mann wtf i dont even know what im saying anymore..umm we should bring back jcstodds and haldir then good roleplay will be back negga!

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Reply #48 on: July 20, 2009, 03:32:46 pm
I dont know if i can call myself regular
You're forum rank/title says regular.

Well i also agree... aragorn is speaking the truth with people reporting about everything instead of solving it themself...myself i am not in the community from old argonath.. But i can still see what aragorn is saying..
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Reply #49 on: July 20, 2009, 03:59:02 pm
Well guys haven't you thought about that really a lot of these problems come new players. As they are the ones that gets their first job as freecops, first ones who flames a lot etc. But they don't read our forum. There are only few selected, who actually are interested in becoming a regular. So you, who complain about the people that Argonath can't control just stop it.

When it comes to rules and commands. I would have to say that there is starting to be too many of them.

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



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Reply #50 on: July 20, 2009, 06:48:13 pm
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How are we supposed to do that?  The server says /report everything, and when we report someone who is ramming/dming/etc., and the admins aren't responding, we try to stop the rulebreaker.  And how do you go about this?  Breaking a rule.  When we do break that said rule, usually we take the blame and get shit on by an admin, while the rulebreaker is still at large.

And anyways, from the words of GiacJr:  "That's why I'm an admin and your not."

If admins hold their head so fucking high, like that^, why do we need to stop rulebreakers when we get in trouble?  Players shouldn't have to stop rulebreakers, we didn't apply to play on the server, like admins did to get their rights.  That's why we have admins, and if we should solve problems ourselves, then why shouldn't we all get admin rights?  It only makes sense(and no I'm not asking for admin rights.).



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Reply #51 on: July 20, 2009, 07:28:07 pm
we try to stop the rulebreaker.  And how do you go about this?  Breaking a rule.

You are stopping the rulebreaker from braking the rules or just from killing you? One thing is to explain the rules, another is to attack/fight back.


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Reply #52 on: July 20, 2009, 07:59:32 pm
How are we supposed to do that?  The server says /report everything, and when we report someone who is ramming/dming/etc., and the admins aren't responding, we try to stop the rulebreaker.  And how do you go about this?  Breaking a rule.  When we do break that said rule, usually we take the blame and get shit on by an admin, while the rulebreaker is still at large.

And anyways, from the words of GiacJr:  "That's why I'm an admin and your not."

If admins hold their head so f**king high, like that^, why do we need to stop rulebreakers when we get in trouble?  Players shouldn't have to stop rulebreakers, we didn't apply to play on the server, like admins did to get their rights.  That's why we have admins, and if we should solve problems ourselves, then why shouldn't we all get admin rights?  It only makes sense(and no I'm not asking for admin rights.).
You have two choices:
1. use /report and let admins handle it. If you think they do not respond, then how can they punish you if you take matters in your own hand afterwards ? It can only be because they are checking your report.

2. Solve it without reporting.
And that includes not spamming the chat with 'cancel me it was self defense' should you kill someone.

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Reply #53 on: July 20, 2009, 08:10:08 pm
2. Solve it without reporting.
And that includes not spamming the chat with 'cancel me it was self defense' should you kill someone.

Most likely it won't happen.  Everytime I get sus'ed by accident(and the /su'er was even testifying in my favor) or was clear abuse, admins shrug it off.  The only way to get unsused is to get a cop witness to jail you and refund you.



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Reply #54 on: July 20, 2009, 08:25:01 pm
Most likely it won't happen.  Everytime I get sus'ed by accident(and the /su'er was even testifying in my favor) or was clear abuse, admins shrug it off.  The only way to get unsused is to get a cop witness to jail you and refund you.

Perhaps your definition of abuse doe not match that of admins. :roll:

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Reply #55 on: July 20, 2009, 08:28:16 pm
Most likely it won't happen.  Everytime I get sus'ed by accident(and the /su'er was even testifying in my favor) or was clear abuse, admins shrug it off.  The only way to get unsused is to get a cop witness to jail you and refund you.

1-Yes solve it yourself and do it in a desent way.
2-Not only admins can unsuspect.
3-You are a regular if you break the rules admins will give you fair punishment. new players are though that you not allowed to do that...

(Too Matthew_Mcbride: Lol goed man goed...you were banned when i was still playing.. Then i met madboi and found out he is south african too... same with you now)



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Reply #56 on: July 20, 2009, 08:29:58 pm
Boxy you really think that admins should reply on all 20 reports in 1 minute "Your report was taken and is now under check, sir/madam"?
That admins did not tell it does not mean they do not check the report... And sitting and spectating every reported ass with the nice shit in chat about admins doing nothing - will not do any normal people... These guys are not normal - they are fucking golden that they still work with this and try to change pampers to every crying kid...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #57 on: July 20, 2009, 09:00:43 pm
The problem is that we aren't friendly towards each other.

As Aragorn stated somewhere before, it's Players Vs Admins, Criminals Vs Cops, and so on.

If we could all just get along, and stop the damn arguing, and just have some fun and RP.. ahh, things would be so much better.



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Reply #58 on: July 20, 2009, 09:05:44 pm
Not many people does a job for free

Admins are working for free, for the good of the server..
Also admins got less time than others to Roleplay or have fun than normal people
Atleast, Admins had more time back at 2007... the Whole enviroment of Argonath was a look friendly



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Reply #59 on: July 20, 2009, 09:30:12 pm
Sometimes you /report, and admins have solved it or are busy solving it, and then you spam the admin with
"ZOMFG CHECK MY REPORT USELESS TART"
and you end up getting in trouble, maybe admins should just send the reporter a message saying "You're report is being dealt with" or something, just to give the person some relief? or make a command like /relieve <id> (sounds dodgey) and that sends a message to the ID saying "You're report is being dealt with SIR/MAM, Thank you"

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