Wanna old Argonath RPG being back?

[Pazienza]

Its all Well and good... But why are admins DM'ing, Warning and Spawning there own cars, And getting away with it... Thats what PISSES ME OFF!

I doubt they do..
screenies and [email protected] ..

and stay on topic.

[Alsatian]

Its all Well and good... But why are admins DM'ing, Warning and Spawning there own cars, And getting away with it... Thats what PISSES ME OFF!

I find this really hard to believe. And if they are, [email protected].

[Joey_DeRossi]

Everything is perfect as it is.
"We, without a doubt, have a diverse community, which has a broad range of age groups and different cultural approaches. The administration has attempted to be tolerant, and have succeeded to a certain degree. It is now the responsibility of our new era of RPers, to highlight areas of concern and to take them forward - We are all responsible for this."
We just need to "insert" a new mentality on the veterans, I mean, since when is helping a newcomer that hard/boring?
Am I the only one who finds joy in helping the newcomers and watching them learning by using /me commands and /animhelp's?Take a look at Sean_Olk - he started with low credentials and look at him now, he has been helping so many newcomers and has become such a charismatic character and a pillar of his group !

This has nothing to do with administrators, has they do their job perfectly, and yes, I've witnessed it.
Like said before, instead of reporting a newcomer for carjacking/dm'ing, etc - Fight back ! It's not considered dm'ing since you're role-playing that he has stolen your car and the "shoot-out" will send a "warning" to the newcomer and he will start to learn on his own, or with your help.
If you're the peaceful type, try sending them a private message, it works most of the times.

It's quite annoying to see /p flooded with "OMGs", "HE KILLED MEs", etc. Instead, please, take a break for 5 minutes and stop complaining about the administration.
I once freaked out, COMPLETELY, with a cop that destroyed my role-play (and you may ask Violet_Corleone) and do you know what I did? /q (Even though I flamed Violet, through PM, but apologized right away ).

[Stanley_Taylor]

I think Argonath has improved since I joined, 6 months ago. One of the things that really improved the server was that some admins from big clans got removed and that violet and eugene got added.

However, I'd like to say a few things that I've seen over the past 6 months that, in some rare cases, causes people to start moaning.

First of all, a lot of the 'old regulars' that are admins, are also cops. They play with each other all the time. I'm talking about WS, AV and Araatus (Araatus has just a few admins and they're all good). When a WS/AV member but most importantly, a friend of WS/AV (which is almost always a cadet/officer) breaks a rule, the reports on them are being handled softly. Don't give me the usual, "almost always the reports are being handled without you knowing about it", because I can read the responds in /p too. So basically, cops are more believeble than criminals to admins because the admins are unwillingly biased, and criminals do not appreciate it.

Secondly, most of the DM but especially other abuse like carkilling comes from criminals upon other criminals. Then you check /admins and you see over 75% is a cop. A lot of times these admins say: "I can only handle reports when I see it". Catch my drift? I've come to the conclusion that this server does not need more admins that are cops, but criminals or hobo's. For example, Alfred_Charles get DM'd every 5 minutes. I'd be good to have an admin that is a hobo, or something (or make [AV]Syn admin  ) Atleast on places where there's a lot of DMing with usually no admins around.

Third and most importantly, liars. Regulars who lie should be perm-banned from Argonath. Liars are constant rule-breakers, because they know they get away with it 99 percent all the time. The other one percent they get a kick or a temp-ban. Perm-banned and then getting unbanned 3 days later cuz they lie about being sorry, also counts as a temp-ban.

 :ps: I guess I don't have to bother doing /report at all any more now do I?  

[John_marshell]

Yes they do, I can spectate someone and /pm <id> you're report is being dealt with, at the same time

While checking your keyboard to type you have missed everything the /reported person did  :lame:..

Admins work too hard already and you guys just want them to do more :smoke:...

[Oliver]

Like Girder said, forget the past and focus on the future...

[Chuck_Norris]

Yes they do, I can spectate someone and /pm <id> you're report is being dealt with, at the same time

I try to do this every time, however like said before, you need to focus on the reported player.

[Matthew_Mcbride]

I try to do this every time, however like said before, you need to focus on the reported player.

and what about Multitasking, I would suggest making a message that comes aswell on /report that says "Please do not bug the admins, they will do what they can"
but that would just be creating a new rule... so I'm going to leave this topic since I'm bating the same subject over and over and its going to either end up in a stalemate or in me losing the debate, I had an opinion obviously I don't know anything from a community leaders side >.> so I did not mean to judge anything. thank you

[Gird3r]

Even tough the command would be usefull, it would put stress on the developers in need of making it.

Also, it would remove another bit of the sociality between admins and players. And sociality between admins and players are needed if a fucntioning order is to be working

Not to mention it would make the player feel even more left behind than they already supposedely feel if a robotic message told them the report is being checked.


I mean, think how comforting it is to hear a robotic voice over the telephone telling you that your in bla bla bla line.


It's not comforting at all and absolutely not comforting in any way.
I see the good of the possibility of the command. But there's to many negative hidden sides of it. Atleast from my point of view.

Also, there are WAY to many commands in sa-mp. Way to many I tell you.  

[Watti]

the old days...

Shit i was like 14 or 15 .. which ever one it was

hmm 2006 if im right.. grade umm.. 9? i think.. hmmmm

Wow 3 years!! dam im getting old ay

ok now We all complain.. AHH he jacked me!! dam it... Shooooott him!!!! :P Warned for Dmin... Hey Faggot he was like jacking me.. thatsw whats happening now...

ok when admins whernt on server on MTA.. i became a cop.. and id suspect Dmers.. with like.. Endangering innocent Citizens or something.. and Chase them.. not for long cos they wanted to kill but i killed first so i got rich.. thatsw how i became the richest.. then Geoffy took over.. so it was Geoff Watti then Kaltsu.. I havnt talked to him in a while

So yea fun times...

[Gird3r]

hmm 2006 if im right.. grade umm.. 9? i think.. hmmmm

The master of the dice returns. 

How are you Watti?

[Aragorn]

so it was Geoff Watti then Kaltsu..

Rofl? Kaltsu was before you even heard about Argonath...

[Syn]

(or make [AV]Syn admin  )

Lol Why May i ask?

-Syn

[Indica]

Those members of Argonath that are sick of a low amount of RP need to realize that it is there own fault. You can't have role-play if you don't actually role-play.
(Responding to a previous post) Actually, I find the cop admins to be more responsive, as the ARPD can handle itself while the admin does what he/she has to do.

The admin team has nothing to do with a lack of role-play on this server. End of story. They do all they can do to ensure a safe and frill-free environment for us to use as a sketchpad for role-play. We decide "oh, there's so much leeway on this server! Let's break rules, knowing we can get away with it!" and sadly, most of the time we do. But banning every player for a rule break is not the way to go. We all need an attitude adjustment about how you play on here. Do you shout "freecop, don't waste my time!" or "admins, someone just killed me in our cops and robbers RP and I lost $30,000 in guns!"? If so, think again. Freecops are not horrible members here, believe it or not. Sure, some of them break rules, but only because they don't know the rules. If you don't know what rules you're breaking, what's stopping you from further breaking them?
And to those of you that complain every damned time you die in a role-play situation, please, save our eyes the trouble of reading your comments on /p. You bought guns (conscious decision), left the store, went near cops, didn't do very well, and died. That is all your fault.

Let me clear one last thing up: Deathmatching. Deathmatching is the conscious effort to kill everyone one sees on the server. It is not deathmatch if you are already role-playing something and someone kills you. I recently had a nice little RP with Eugene and the rest of Gvardia where they attempted to take over the Araatus complex. I, however, ran to my Buccaneer and grabbed a combat shotgun and began firing after Eugene counted down from 5 for us to leave. They all pulled guns and began firing. I was shot many times (as I realized I was the only member of Araatus with a gun there) and was killed. I didn't complain, even though other members of my group did.
How is this situation even close to DM? Really, deathmatch involves no role-play whatsoever, so even if someone comes up to you and does

* Indica pulls a gun and presses it to XXX's head.

* Indica whispers: Say your prayers.

* Indica fires, pushing the lead bullet into XXX's temple.

That is not deathmatch, as there was role-play involved. You catch my drift?
Carjacking is also not a rule break if you do it in RP. If you do

* Indica smashes the window and unlocks the door, pulling XXX out.

* Indica enters the car and slams on the gas.

This is not considered "carjacking". "Carjacking" as described in admin reports of new players involves senseless carjacking of any person to obtain their car for personal use. This means doing so with no ulterior motive, only to take their car quickly.

Those of you who get out of your car and begin shooting anyone that rams you accidentally or happens to have made your car (already with 25/100 carhp) explode... Why do you do that? I could drop so many names of people that deathmatch so many people for no reason other than their own stupidity. This includes a few of my own friends on here, which is very upsetting.

I dunno, sorry for the rant. If you read it, I appreciate it. Just remember guys... The owners and developers make this possible for us. The admins enforce their rules to ensure that this will be possible for us in the future. And the citizens of Argonath? We do everything else

[Roadkill]

June 06, good times.