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[Harald]

If I got this right, it's only our own fault it got f**ked up?
How can it ONLY be our fault? Exact every one of us have changed behaviour completely, and that made the server got f**ked up(according some peoples opinions, not everyone thinks it is f**ked up)?

[9r2e5i3k]

If I got this right, it's only our own fault it got f**ked up?

Yes.

If SAMP players hadn't brought in z0mg thousand rules from other RP servers that don't apply here and whine about others not playing by them,  and instead play in the same way like players on other Argonath servers or like in early Argonath SAMP, the SAMP server wouldn't be such a mess it is today.

[Harald]

Yes.

If SAMP players hadn't brought in z0mg thousand rules from other RP servers that don't apply here and whine about others not playing by them,  and instead play in the same way like players on other Argonath servers or like in early Argonath SAMP, the SAMP server wouldn't be such a mess it is today.

There are several people NOT doing this, so it's kind of blaming innocents by saying "it's your own fault".
Regular SA:MP players can't make rules exist in Argonath, they can give ideas to make it happen.
People doing the same and still blaming, why not just ignore? Why create a whole topic like this? Why not punish them as if they were newbies(nearly no punishment though, but still...the thought).

[9r2e5i3k]

There are several people NOT doing this, so it's kind of blaming innocents by saying "it's your own fault".

Don't try to hide the guilty behind the innocent. Of course I haven't said ALL players are to be blamed.

Regular SA:MP players can't make rules exist in Argonath, they can give ideas to make it happen.

Oh really? What about those "RP guides" which had all those imported rules in them? What about the whining "shit RPer", "non-RPer", "omfg learn to RP", etc. ? Those rules are not supported by the server, yet players push them into play.

People doing the same and still blaming, why not just ignore?

It's not Aragorn who first started this kind of topics.

[Harald]

Don't try to hide the guilty behind the innocent. Of course I haven't said ALL players are to be blamed.

Oh really? What about those "RP guides" which had all those imported rules in them? What about the whining "shit RPer", "non-RPer", "omfg learn to RP", etc. ? Those rules are not supported by the server, yet players push them into play.

It's not Aragorn who first started this kind of topics.

1. Read the first post.
2. If the RP guides consist such rules doesn't exist officially, they do not exist.
Whining "shit-RPer", "non-RPer", "omfg learn to RP" Those RULES...? Not supported by the server? But still players use them while playing? CanNOT understand.
3. Aragorn started this topic, who cares about previous topics?
No, he did not start these kind of topics. Billy wasn't the first one to start a forum game neither?

[Gandalf]

1. Read the first post.
2. If the RP guides consist such rules doesn't exist officially, they do not exist.
Whining "shit-RPer", "non-RPer", "omfg learn to RP" Those RULES...? Not supported by the server? But still players use them while playing? CanNOT understand.
3. Aragorn started this topic, who cares about previous topics?
No, he did not start these kind of topics. Billy wasn't the first one to start a forum game neither?

1. Yes its the fault of players changed. Not all players changed, not all are at fault.
2. Still they are posted and people try to enforce them.
3. You should care.

[Harald]

1. Yes its the fault of players changed. Not all players changed, not all are at fault.
2. Still they are posted and people try to enforce them.
3. You should care.

1. I don't see the point in that.
2. People don't have to go via those rules.
3. Why? What does that have to do with me?

[Gandalf]

1. I don't see the point in that.
2. People don't have to go via those rules.
3. Why? What does that have to do with me?

Obviously you do not see the point, perhaps some years of English will increase your comprehensive powers.

[Harald]

Obviously you do not see the point, perhaps some years of English will increase your comprehensive powers.

The reason why I said I don't see the point of it - is because that you are only blaming players.
"It's their fault - they changed their behaviour and ruined it". But all they are saying - Argonath was better before.
You are constantly answering: "It will never change back" and blaming it's their fault it's not that good anymore.
They have the right to have their own opinion, as long as it doesn't flame anyone, but you're a fish on the hook on this. You can't see people having their own thoughts about this topic.

On-topic, the shit you just mentioned was not fact, it was a flame, not funny at all and a useless attempt to "pwn" me.
Who is so fucking desperate they are taking private classes in English? Btw, why didn't you say that to Olari instead? A better example than me.

[Cero]

Obviously you do not see the point, perhaps some years of English will increase your comprehensive powers.

You went over the line.

[Aragorn]

People doing the same and still blaming, why not just ignore? Why create a whole topic like this? Why not punish them as if they were newbies(nearly no punishment though, but still...the thought).

- We ignored - and where it came?
- Why topic was created? Why should not I make this topic? And why started moaning about it? That spoiled all plans of future moans? And who the fuck are you to criticize my protection of server and admins? You are nobody... As about topic - the Argonath owner gave to people a possibility to see the other side then moaners and see what exactly Argonath's soul is...
- The topic is not about punishments, my "clever" friend...

[Mafs]

Removed: fake accusations... Do not cut off the lonely words...
Admin: Aragorn

[Aragorn]

You can't see people having their own thoughts about this topic.

Since when a lie became be an "own opinion"?

and Harald BTW...

1. You PMed me that MrsS Svensson can recruit Argonath players to his server via MSN cos MSN has nothing to Argonath... As soon as Argonath involved in somehow - it does fucking relates... Do not think that shitting the Argonath in MSNs will be considered legal...

2. You are the guy who came to Gandalf on PM and asked why was removed the video of mrsS... Gandalf gave you an answer... Here came mrsS with the shit on Gandalf and blaming him in bullshitting him behind his back...

3. Now you came to this topic, saw that topic pwned moaners, started new provokes covering it as "discussions"...

4. On the rights of the server owner I take on myself the decision to mute you from forums for:
- set up of situation for making fake accusations to blame Gandalf in bullshitting a user behind his back...
- supporting the spam against Argonath community with the commercial recruitment to the server of your friend...
- provoking in forum topics

5. Wanted punishments? Lets start then right from you...

[Gandalf]

You went over the line.

Not me. If someone does not understand the point of a topic after it being explained to him by 3 different people he either does not want to understand or can not understand.

[Roadkill]

OK guys chill, Harald, if you don't like what Aragorn or Gandalf has to say then gtfo... Or just admit that what you said is wRONg. This topic has gone way too off-topic.

Argonath pwned back in 2006 and it still pwns in 2009. No server will ever be 100% perfect. Kthxbai :bye: