I'm not looking for overclock, i'm looking for stock cores.
48xx doesn't run every game so smoothly 
Disagreed.
HD4850 beats 9800GTX and it is very closer to 9800GTX+, it's cheaper and good.
ATI Drivers has been updated very recently, there's always new drivers who increase video card peformance.
Also, i have choices between 9800GT for HD4850, but i got a notice that my budget fit a HD4850 so i decided to order it.
Let's compare prices:
HD4850
R$360
Core clock = 625
Stream processors: 800 stream processor units
memory clock: 1986-1990mhz
memory interface: 256 bits
memory type: GDDR3
memory size: 512mb
9800GTX+
R$448
Core clock: 738mhz
Stream processors: 128 stream processor units.
memory clock: 2200mhz
memory interface: 256 bits
memory type: DDR3
memory size: 512mb
As you see, 9800GTX+ looks alot more powerful than HD4850
Almost the same, but the prices are way different.
But in questions about perfomance and ingame.. HD4850 is almost the same as 9800GTX+

hmm, this one 9800GTX+ won HD4850, but, the results weren't bad.

Just because little FPS 9800GTX+ won

smoothly yet.

not bad results :P

