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Re-gaining health in combat- solving the issue

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Reply #15 on: September 01, 2009, 04:38:27 pm
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What woud happend if i was shoting cops, and just went inside some Food Place, and regain my HP? Isnt this  the same situation?

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Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 12:18:43 am
'solving the issue' - stop being so lame, and fight like a man that you claim to be. :neutral:



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Reply #17 on: September 02, 2009, 01:27:18 am
Why I considered an Unfair Advantage ? We cops are on the street shooting at you all, When you guys get 1 hp Run inside health back to full And we don't get such Advantage also..nd for the tempban, I believe I asked many admins at the time wich also considered right..since it was an Unfair advantage



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Reply #18 on: September 02, 2009, 01:39:10 am
Hmm but there is a script where cops can enter interior and stop all suspects from the ability to regain HP.

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Reply #19 on: September 02, 2009, 02:04:33 am
We cops are on the street shooting at you all, When you guys get 1 hp Run inside health back to full And we don't get such Advantage also..
And on the other hand you cops have an advantege to come back after death, and we dont, wanna trade ?
'solving the issue' - stop being so lame, and fight like a man that you claim to be. :neutral:
Yes, solving the issue, so people woud know is it allowed or not, since even admins are not sure is it against rules or not, many of them told me it is, many of them told me its not. And the only lame thing here its you posting a comment like this, without any fact or postive goal, exept annoying and provoking.

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Reply #20 on: September 02, 2009, 02:42:31 am
Why I considered an Unfair Advantage ? We cops are on the street shooting at you all, When you guys get 1 hp Run inside health back to full And we don't get such Advantage also..

Why not hide behind a car, call for back up, and call for ambulance,
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Reply #21 on: September 02, 2009, 03:37:13 am
Personally, I think that this is irritating. The number one scene for shootouts because of its secure, one main opening and high fence wall also happens to be a hospital catered for the shooters.

and call for ambulance,
:ps: this is a RP server btw  ;)

An ambulance takes time to respond that far, the police officer knows that he can't call the ambulance near the site for public safety, running from cover to get around a corner to get to the ambulance is much different then /enter, walk, /buy milk, /exit, and start shooting.

Once the officer leaves cover, he is exposed until he gets to a corner, when the suspect /enter, and he is completely safe from harm.

If the officer is using a car for cover, he can't use it to get to the medic, for 2 main reasons. 1, he would lower the amount of cover and possibly leave the suspects a wider way to escape, 2, the vehicle could very easily be shot and explode, both ruining his cover, and transportation, and possibly furthering his injuries.

This is a role-play server, is milk a standard form of medical treatment?

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Reply #22 on: September 02, 2009, 03:48:44 am
This is a role-play server, is milk a standard form of medical treatment?

Tis' not be a Real Life RP server, scurvy dawg.



On a serious note, I agree with Cofi, law enforcement gets to return after death, so just spawn reset outside SFPD for a Gvardia shootout.  Or, set a ambulance(have a officer be one) not far from the HQ, like the the west side of the Vank Hoff hotel.  Just have the ambulance refund people.  This isn't that hard to plan out.



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Reply #23 on: September 02, 2009, 03:53:17 am
Tis' not be a Real Life RP server, scurvy dawg.



On a serious note, I agree with Cofi, law enforcement gets to return after death, so just spawn reset outside SFPD for a Gvardia shootout.  Or, set a ambulance(have a officer be one) not far from the HQ, like the the west side of the Vank Hoff hotel.  Just have the ambulance refund people.  This isn't that hard to plan out.

Police can return after death because they are a police force, consisting of a large number of units.

This isn't a real life server (Or a pirate one  :roll:) but the server does have a degree of realism. So, perhaps if a police officer is in a police car, he can heal himself with a first aid kit? It may just be first aid, but if you can drink milk and regain from bullet wounds. . . .

Hmm but there is a script where cops can enter interior and stop all suspects from the ability to regain HP.

There are also normally 2-5 suspects remaining outside keeping the police from gaining entry. . . .

What woud happend if i was shoting cops, and just went inside some Food Place, and regain my HP? Isnt this  the same situation?

Considering the food place is a real business, and is supposed to have the food, no.

Reguardless, the HQ shouldn't have the bar in it anyway, as mentioned above. I hope it is fixed, soon.


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Reply #24 on: September 02, 2009, 04:00:11 am
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If you want some degree of realism, have you ever thought that police departments don't have a infinite amount of officers, especially if the city has normally 5 awake(logged-on) residents inhabiting it?



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Reply #25 on: September 02, 2009, 04:04:27 am
Perfectly valid in my eyes, the interior is a house interior and not a business one.
I specifically organise AR Complex fights so that we have a quick jump to the HP in the business, and I strategically lock it so that cops cannot use my business for this whilst we are not actually inside.

Cops should storm the house if this is happening.

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Reply #26 on: September 02, 2009, 04:15:24 am
If you want some degree of realism, have you ever thought that police departments don't have a infinite amount of officers, especially if the city has normally 5 awake(logged-on) residents inhabiting it?

Have you ever thought a large percent of those inhabitants shouldn't be cop-killers hold up in a compound? Have you ever thought that police should not have to pay for armour because it is standard issue? Or that Kevlar vests can't actually be bought by a store legally, so they should be removed for non-police? Or that perhaps the mint should be state property, and Gvardia should find a new home? Or that an observatory shouldn't be a home, but should be an observatory? Etc, etc, etc.

I never said I wanted more realism, I said that there IS realism.

And police forces in such a large city such as San Fierro, Los Santos, or Las Venturas would be exceptionally large.

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Reply #27 on: September 02, 2009, 04:19:59 am
There is nothing wrong with the police returning. Their lack of ability to not die constantly was shown during the test where they couldn't return.
It was like a bloody execution, I tell you. After I had diapatched the lot I had to jump off a building as I had murdered every cop in the entire world and could not get cancelsuspected (in RS3).
Not good.

In return for the cops generally being suicidal kamikaze gunners, they are allowed to return to, once again, kamikaze at us and try once again to be an hero.

And no, that isn't a grammar mistake.
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Reply #28 on: September 02, 2009, 05:18:16 am
Think about this:

Shootout @ Gvardia HQ:

Cops have lined up ambulances around the corner, and lets say gvardia doesn't have the bar..
Cops run back to the ambulance for health. Fair? No.

Everytime theres a Code 30 with gvardia ( Multiple times each day..) Its the same exact situation but gvardia's having the bar and the cops not having the ambulances..



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Reply #29 on: September 02, 2009, 05:26:47 am
Think about this:

Shootout @ Gvardia HQ:

Cops have lined up ambulances around the corner, and lets say gvardia doesn't have the bar..
Cops run back to the ambulance for health. Fair? No.

Everytime theres a Code 30 with gvardia ( Multiple times each day..) Its the same exact situation but gvardia's having the bar and the cops not having the ambulances..

The mafia should have the feeling of no way out. That is the point of surrounding the place, the police can run to an ambulance, but it will lower the integrity of the blockade. Plus, their bar is not supposed to be existant.

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