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/frisk abuse after cop abuse

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on: October 13, 2009, 05:47:45 am
I'd like to discuss a situation that is common to role-playing criminals that is very annoying:
When a cop breaks the server rules, something that has nothing to do with role-playing, and a player becomes a suspect. I'm not the kinda person that cries about it in /p like EVERYBODY else. I /gu and let an officer investigate, so admins can play or do other admin shit.
First thing I do when an officer comes, is tell this officer I got abused. Some of these officers /frisk you anyway. Why? This shouldn't have to do anything with role-play, but with breaking the server rules. Shouldn't this be all OOC chat? Why do some of these officers /frisk you anyway? Should I be crying in /p like most people, annoy the whole server, just so I don't have to face the risk of getting shot by a freecop inside LSPD and getting a /frisk? You tell me...



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Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 05:55:32 am
Weather your abused or not, your going through a police processing. Meaning they will search you for all weapons and drugs.

And a word of advise: If your abused, its not an admin matter. It is a police matter. Like you said, /gu and go to the station. There a SGT or higher will deam the crime abuse or not.

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Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 06:05:44 am
Weather your abused or not, your going through a police processing. Meaning they will search you for all weapons and drugs.

And a word of advise: If your abused, its not an admin matter. It is a police matter. Like you said, /gu and go to the station. There a SGT or higher will deam the crime abuse or not.

Well if he is wrongly suspected, then its not fair to withdraw all his drugs from him.

Personally, as I walk into the station I metagame swallowing the drugs I have so
that cops cant frisk it.



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Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 06:18:57 am
Weather your abused or not, your going through a police processing. Meaning they will search you for all weapons and drugs.

And a word of advise: If your abused, its not an admin matter. It is a police matter. Like you said, /gu and go to the station. There a SGT or higher will deam the crime abuse or not.

Once again, I'm talking about cops breaking the server rules, that counts as abuse too  :roll:. That's actually an admin matter, but since the admins are so busy and players moan in /p when they're abused, they must /gu and let a senior officer investigate. That's what should happen, but hardly anyone does it.



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Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 06:36:40 am
So if I understand you correctly your main point is that they should not engage in IC activity (like /frisk) while investigating an abused suspect, correct?

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Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 06:51:24 am
So if I understand you correctly your main point is that they should not engage in IC activity (like /frisk) while investigating an abused suspect, correct?
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Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 06:52:14 am
You have a fairly valid point. Whenever someone claims to be abused I don't /frisk until I prove them to be wrong and that the crime was valid.
Vince, I suggest we put a new regulation that when investigating crimes, we shouldn't /frisk until the investigation is over.



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Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 06:56:44 am
Please guys. There's a difference between role-play abuse and rule-breaking abuse. A cop can be excessive and /su quicker than should, but he can also rule-break by /su a civilian something he did not do. I'm talking about the latter. When a suspect is the victim of role-play abuse, he propably did something wrong to start with. He should be frisked.



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Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 03:48:15 pm
Check it. If i arrest you for speeding and i find drugs on you, im arresting you for speeding and being in possession. Being in possesion is a crime and instead of you getting away with a ticket, you get a nice little cell. Best thing to is not carry drugs on you :)



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Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 08:54:34 pm
Check it. If i arrest you for speeding and i find drugs on you, im arresting you for speeding and being in possession. Being in possesion is a crime and instead of you getting away with a ticket, you get a nice little cell. Best thing to is not carry drugs on you :)

Read the damn topic please.



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Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 09:34:40 pm

Personally, as I walk into the station I metagame swallowing the drugs I have so
that cops cant frisk it.


1.  That's powergaming
2.  Cops can still frisk you, you still have the drugs.  Ofcourse if you smoke them all, then that's a different story.



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Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 09:35:07 pm
Please guys. There's a difference between role-play abuse and rule-breaking abuse. A cop can be excessive and /su quicker than should, but he can also rule-break by /su a civilian something he did not do. I'm talking about the latter. When a suspect is the victim of role-play abuse, he propably did something wrong to start with. He should be frisked.

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Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 10:58:02 pm
Where is that rule stated that they may not frisk you as a arrested suspect?
Often when someone has an "invalid" crime they often gets an unsuspecting fast like "noob", "stop", "sexy ass" and etc... However if the crime is "valid" (speeding, assult etc..) then it's an cop matter what so ever your guilty to it or not..

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Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 12:50:34 am
Thanks for your answers. I think it's clear that I should be moaning to the admins instead of going to the PD.



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Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 01:33:56 am
Thanks for your answers. I think it's clear that I should be moaning to the admins instead of going to the PD.
Dont do that, But yes i do agree with you on this whole thing. Whenever i /gu and try to explain they frisk me and take me drugs.. Thats one of the reason i dont play Argonath anymore, Because most of the cops are abuser's and take their job way to seriously and are not trying to serve justice but to arrest or kill more people.

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