Economic crisis in Argonath!

[Eugene]

Regular players are lossing money,because of this!

I must be new then, just i gained like 3mil+ on this 'Economic crisis' thing

I think you guys are wrong and you need to be thank full for what developers spend their time and nerves on.

[David_Omid]

Oh so now it's the players fault?!
First sure add some new cars,but not sport cars!
Add some RolePlaying cars.
And many people are making money on selling cars.
If all the Regular players that are playing here like 3years and making money,off cars,how do you think they will react on this.
And betttter yet,what will the server do if it pisses the regular players off,and all the regular player leave argo?

Make the server fun for all, not only to the new guys ,but for Regulars too!
Other wise server will loose many players,and noone wants that to happen,right Celeborn?

Yes, it's the fault of players...always has been

So let me get this straight, we can't add sports cars because you don't want yours to depreciate in value? Talk about selfish...

You want roleplaying cars? CBFASI added firetrucks, armoured vans, car transporters etc...you obviously haven't been roleplaying with them

Yes, they are making money on selling cars...we are saying that in this case, it's a terrible thing as they are gaining advantages from screwing over other players

How do we think regular players will react? Well it depends on which players...a lot of players aren't money-hungry, so they are FINE with this. As for the money-hungry ones, we expect reactions like this topic...rants about how they can't be as rich as before, but still pointlessly rich

Alright, the regular players leave Argonath...we have lots more room for brand new players!


Do not direct this at CBFASI...it is YOUR FAULT

[CBFasi]

Guys there will be more lower spec and other rp vehicles coming, just cos I did a small number of sports cars you all moaning !!

When you was asking me Bullet I said there would not be new cars when we switiched over, that was 100% true, but is in the past.. the swtich from .2x to .3 did NOT add cars, its after that...

[Joey_DeRossi]

All of you will get through this once the "economics" stabilizes.
Thank you for bringing more cars into the server.

[Aksel]

I cant belive it Bullet, how selfish can you be.
I am incredibly happy more "low cost economic" vehicle got added.

[Jerry]

Yes, it's the fault of players...always has been

So let me get this straight, we can't add sports cars because you don't want yours to depreciate in value? Talk about selfish...

You want roleplaying cars? CBFASI added firetrucks, armoured vans, car transporters etc...you obviously haven't been roleplaying with them

Yes, they are making money on selling cars...we are saying that in this case, it's a terrible thing as they are gaining advantages from screwing over other players

How do we think regular players will react? Well it depends on which players...a lot of players aren't money-hungry, so they are FINE with this. As for the money-hungry ones, we expect reactions like this topic...rants about how they can't be as rich as before, but still pointlessly rich

Alright, the regular players leave Argonath...we lots more room for brand new players!


Do not direct this at CBFASI...it is YOUR FAULT

My Fault?
Stop bing like ''ahh it's your fault we are gods we can''t make mistakes'' Its getting anoying.
Sure you have lots of room for new players,we will see how New Players are better than Regular ones.
Okay if its not abuat the money,then why are some bizzes so Expensive like Hilton Hotel 1milion!
How do you make such money without selling cars or anything for a buy out? Answer me that!

[David_Omid]

How do you make such money without selling cars or anything for a buy out? Answer me that!

Get a job

[Jerry]

I cant belive it Bullet, how selfish can you be.
I am incredibly happy more "low cost economic" vehicle got added.

Yes we all are happy that ''cheap'' vechiels are added,but we dont like that so many sport's car's are added.

[Proxan]

How do you make such money without selling cars or anything for a buy out? Answer me that!

Events? That's how I earned my money... atleast the most of it.

[Nexxt]

If you are still playing Argonath RPG because of the money, then your reason of being here is WRONG.
I can guarantee you, staying moneygreedy, will get you worse in the future.
Better stop caring about the money, or your life on Argonath will get worse.

Read these words, they are 100% true.

Okay fine. Remove all the shit cars and add a bunch of amazing top-end sports cars and let newbies get them for free.

Then we will have No economy and you will succesfully kill the value of every car on the server.

Regulars get money and buy the damn things, Newbies dont have the cash so simple! They DONT GET THEM.

Wanna know why?
Because 90% cares about their own money only, and never spend money on new people.
They get in debt and left the server, the way money is used on Argonath - is in a total NON RP WAY.
And is only a status, to make your self called "rich" and that seems to make you "cool"

Not for me, sorry.



Another thing:

You guys are NEVER happy.
When we add shit cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF DIS CARS ARE SHIT I DONT WANT , FUCK DEVELOPERS THEY SUCH CHOSE CARS"
When we add good cars, you will react like: "OMG WTF YOU RETARDED DEVS FUCKS UP THE ECONOMY, OMG MY CAR VALUE DECREASED WITH 400K, OMG I CANNOT SHOW OFF NOW"

And why show off? You need to earn respect, and that is not with your amount of money - trust me.

And how do you intened to make it happan,by adding more sports cars?

Wanna know how that works?
You stopping moaning about every single change developers make, to get more RP back (they actually CARE about the server, do you?)

Becase they need to learn how to get higher in Argonath,server shoulden't give evrything in there hands with no work!

On the way you are talking, you aren't really a lot higher then them.
As they care about having fun, and get friends.
You care about money, whats even LOWER - think about it mate.

How Can you have fun in the server? Huh? The Only way to get fun is to have a meaning in the server, os evry players objective in argonath is to get higher,thats what fun is all about!

Are you sure?
I think fun is defined as having a laugh in a good RP.
Not defined as you doing /bank and see your millions - atleast, it doesn't work like that for me.
You are talking about "going higher" , can you explain what is going higher in your words?
As on this way about only wanna be the richest guy, doesn't really make you "higher".

There is nothing "higher", as everyone is "equal"

Oh right... I forgot... Ahh you know what? Lets remove fees for taxis, medic or cops or something else. Why do we need fees for bizzes? I dont know, do you? Oh right... We have to pay in real life. Hey I just remembered: Argonath isnt a real life server so I guess we can remove all the money. F*ck the money! Lets just choose what we want to own and just take it. We will have less problems without the money! No need for advertisement topic too! F*ck it!

Oh and another thing: Can you please spear me some cash? Since the money is not inportant to you then can you pease hand it over? Becouse I am kinda bom now...

To be honest, the taxi and medic fee should increase, so the money of the regulars get more "shared" with new people.
If you don't agree with that, learn to agree with this.

Why really caring about money, earned in a game - what you never can get IRL?!
And talking like this to Fabio, because he is defending a point of him, isn't that nice either.
Why he should send you his money, you dont care about it, he dont care about it - but he can use it on new people.
Because they do care about a nice START.

May I ask you, last time you spend money on a new guy? Or when you helped him?

Being a regular, and being here gives you responsiblity also for representing the name of Argonath RPG.
New people join to have a fun, and meet new friends.
You are here, to give our image about the server/community, and if you are moneygreedy and dont wanna help them.
Why should they stay? They can't do anything, and you can just relax, play and moan about the cars , while you still have like millions.

All the deals are in OOC ,roleplay level is 3 out of 10,don't you see it?!

Argonath doesnt support IC / OOC.
But anyways, you will tell me, you only care about money "IC" ?
Why are you like going wild on the forums then? Why are you caring so much here?
It's only "IC" right?

Oh Fabio! Think again! You are trying to say the right words but you dont believe them! I know that money isnt nothing for you. We all are humans and we all want something...

I know Fabio well enough, to tell you that he more care about having fun on the server, meeting new people, helping people and nice roleplays.
Then that he plays this game to be the richest guy on the whole server.

Yes, we are all humans (atleast we should be) and we want something.
But I think more people should want fun, then money (as it's still a game, what should be "entertaining" for you)

Well...
We REGULAR PLAYERS who paid like 1,7mil for a Buffalo or An Infernus... This is BAD for us... But NEW PLAYERS must have chances too.

Because Of We Paaid ALOT on that kinda sport car we don't need to be selfish... Let 'em has their chance too. This happens once-in-a-lifetime

Because some regulars, are money greedy.
And like to earn a lot of money, to "show off"
New people dont have any change to buy the car they want, they will never HAVE 1,7M.

I can tell you, even I can't bid on the average Infernus or something, as this is just TO HIGH.

You just said it all, if all the people think about the money, thats the way Argonath is,you can't change people but you can stick to them..

We can't change people, as they will still be money greedy.
But we can change the way of things, so you dont have any reason to be moneygreedy.
And then you will regret it, and you NEED to care about RP, otherwise server will be REALLY boring.

We REGULARS got to the 1.7mill, we made our achiefments and we got them didnt we ?????
Then why should it be easier for newcommers to get those cars !?

Simply, because I directly see, the way you are talking, you see "new people" lower then you.
And thats your bigger fault, they are same as you - they do the same, they want the same.

And at the end, you are all here for 1 thing: roleplay/fun.

Get over it....

And how do you intened to make it happan,by adding more sports cars?

Yes it did work , value of the infernus dropped heavily.
Thank god.

So are you willing to donate all your ''pizzels'' to New Players?

Just to tell you, he gave away:

- $1,000,000.
- 1 buffalo

So, nice false accusation of something you don't know about.




Seriously , my last call - get over it, Argonath isn't about money - server names says:

Argonath RPG - (RolePlaying Game

not

Argonath $$$$$

[Jerry]

Get a job

First Sure a job with an income 2-4k an haur, well i can maybe get a mill if i play like this for some monts,but thats only the value of the bizz,the ovner wont just give it,he will ask for the buy out and thats just sad.

[Pancher]

What about all the "regulars" who had crappy cars and wanted some "nice sport cars"? They did just get a chance just like new players and members of this community to buy the new vehicles..

Why didn't anyone complain when the same thing happen with the property's? I mean... First we had lock down for ages and people had to deal with others to get the property they wanted, then "lockdown" got removed and we started to set new houses and bizzes, The Argonath Economic didn't crash.. Why should it do so when there are more vehicles?

I just see some pointless arguments without any fact or thoughts behind it..

And i still do not understand how you can lost millions of this new vehicles added, did someone steal cash from you? Cos if you still have the car you owned before and other property's then you haven't lost anything... Simple!!!

How do you gain money? Dealing with "illegal items", continue do car and property deals and do some "legal" jobs or anything that you can use with your brain.. I remember RI made some cash by offering car wash service and a garage service at Gas Station 9!! - Not scripted job, no items involved, If you ask me REALLY GOOD RP!!

[David_Omid]

First Sure a job with an income 2-4k an haur, well i can maybe get a mill if i play like this for some monts,but thats only the value of the bizz,the ovner wont just give it,he will ask for the buy out and thats just sad.

Whatever you say won't change the fact that doing a roleplay job is better for the simple reason that you are roleplaying

[Aksel]

Holy shit Nexxt o.o

Anyway, please, dont do the same mistake as I did.
I was money greedy once, and I only cared about achieving a million in my bank, I never did, but I was close.
I even lost a few friends cause of it. And of course, I got banned.

[Fabio]

If you are still playing Argonath RPG because of the money, then your reason of being here is WRONG.
I can guarantee you, staying moneygreedy, will get you worse in the future.
Better stop caring about the money, or your life on Argonath will get worse.

Read these words, they are 100% true.

Thank your the backup Nexxt, appriciated.