SA:MP admin restructure

[Gerrie = Banned (Daco)]

Some admins shouldn't have been fired.

[Frank_Hawk]

Joey has made significant points which are open to debate within this topic. I share the observations shared by Joey, and in particular the focus around resigning around the topic around quality within the administration team. For one, I have always been against applying for the administration team seeing it as an arena for false misrepresentation of community members. The recent decision which has been reached by the senior administration team has prompted me to reconsider my Argonath career and perhaps to divulge into another career path. Im sure there are many more people who share the same perspective as me. The opportunity to raise the bar is lucrative for those who are truly committed.

As the senior administration has mentioned, this is considered a restructuring. In a restructure assets are reorganised and liabilities disbanded. A restructure will allow players to reassert their commitment towards our community. Its an opportunity for the senior administration to distinguish between people who are cautiously but knowingly misdirecting the community and towards sustaining credible assets.

The mere hint of sorrow within this topic, in particular by disbanded administration members suggest that this decision has been successful. Observations carried out have suggested that rank hunting, attention crawling and double standards have led to a loss of new/regular player base confidence. The performance management criteria that have been introduced will ensure that quality is ensured and sustainable within the administration team. We will no longer have to play with doubt and uncertainties and in particular we will be able to focus on what we do best. Play the game in a safe environment with a strategic, close and deliberately designed administration team managing the community.

Argonath is critically stronger as a result of this decision.

[Raykaza]

Life needs sacrifices.

[Legolas]

Why for some people, have admin status is so important?

[Devin]

Why for some people, have admin status is so important?

The main reason some find it so important to be an admin is to make themselves feel as if they are of a higher level over others and they want a position of power so no one can tell them what to do.
 Thats the main reason for it all which i can see.

[Tai]

Why for some people, have admin status is so important?

I can tell you why it is so important for me.

It gives me a job what I do from the bottom of my hearth
Its important for me because I've learned much and would
never quit this job myself without any proper reason, such
like "It's getting annoying" etc...

I just love to do the job and help server, player and the
whole community with it

Well it's not the only job that I started to help community.

[Ajeesh]

I bet a few days, if somebody says in main chat "Admin!!". A lot of the fired guys still react on that with "yes?"

I almost did that. =P


But anyways..

Your name doesn't have to be listed in /admins to be able to help players..

[Frank_Hawk]

Why for some people, have admin status is so important?

Its a culture that is embedded into the backbone of Argonath within SA:MP. The perception of the low level administration team is something that is questionable by many serious regulars including myself.

Players, who genuinely care for our community, strenuously exhaust all open channels towards helping our player base. These people are deemed core assets of our community and through their hunger to help, continue to explore all opportunities until they feel they require a new challenge. For example, [Rstar]Proxan is a perfect example of this. Starting his new Argonath career at GS9 was taught by several community members including myself. We aimed to provide him with impartial advice and through our guidance within his career he realised that the essence of our community are our new players. With a relentless attitude, he pursued his career with strong intentions which saw him subsequently saw him progressing up the self-respectful ladder of fulfilment of helping players without the superficial attachments.

For others the system is open to exploitation. Ive been in the community for a long time, and throughout that time Ive seen new players join and work through the ranks often changing drastically in the process. A majority of the previous administration in my view were driving away from Argonaths core values of our vision statement. These individuals were striving for a sense of immunity, proclaimed respect and ultimately a sense of false accomplishment.

I dont despise them for this, as the administration system of levels enticed them to be lured in. The implication of these numbers (1,2,3,4,5) has changed people often striving for glory rather then the passion of the community. The reform of the administration levelling system may uncover clarity for those who genuinely care. However for those who still retain the factors of malicious behaviour. It will still serve as another platform to operate viciously on.

The prospects of malpractice as an administrator not only affect the individual involved. It affects all in the process. For example brown nosing (asskissing) is an evolving problem within Argonath and I along with a majority have severe hatred for it. Administrators who preach double standards entice others to be provocative while they lurk behind a curtain of immunity. Brown nosing revolves around this and is encouraged by these select few who have in turn created a culture revolving around a senior admin in prospect of being promoted. Our regular player base observes these actions and realise that should they want to progress they will have to adopt these quick win tactics to stand a better chance of progressing.

These tactics of misconduct along with the desire of people wishing to become administrators are a fatal blow to the lifecycle of Argonath. I only hope as reiterated in my others posts that this new administration team is capable of stamping out this culture and encouraging a system where performance is not rewarded but the long term viability of our community is.

Whilst I state all of this, I believe we have a critical flaw within Argonath in the sense that nature progression is what motivates players to pursue a administrator orientated role in line with their commitment of improving the community. It is the only option available to players to cement their commitment towards the community and I believe we should have more roles encouraging people to take responsibility for this community. This will lead to a self-efficient community and towards the value of interdependence.

In line with this, its important that we have the foundations in place to create sub-groups of people willing to take the initiative of helping people through different methods instead of technological commands within the server. As a committed new player trainer, I see many areas of improvement around the job role portfolio of Argonath and stress that more endorsed roles should be opened. For example, a committee for regulars should be set-up to act as a body between the administration and player base of Argonath. These people should be picked by the community and honoured by the administration. This is an example of the path we should consider exploring if we wish to decentralise focus on the administration powers that lure many to the brink of oblivion.

[cDa]

madboi as you see there are no more admin lvls, we are whole, one unit, one team, homogenic working devision

[(tr)Ollie]

madboi as you see there are no more admin lvls, we are whole, one unit, one team, homogenic working devision

I think he means higher levels than normal players.

[Pablo]

[AV]Nexxt
Twenty
[WS]Winters
[WS]Seanolk
[TCL]Kessu
Eugene_Gvardia
Hank_Rafferty
[WS]Ryan
Squeak_Araatus
[TCL]Masa_Rich
Violet_Corleone
Hell_Gvardia
[Rstar]Proxan
[WS]Elmartu
[TCL]Mumin
[Rstar]Miami
[Rstar]Petey
[Rstar]Clooak
Wael_Corleone
[AV]Luke
[AV]JDC_Kolta
Your remembered
You will be remembered as great admins 

omg at least half of them wer totally awesome!

[Devin]

I think he means higher levels than normal players.

He means, level is nothing, so they are all equal, they are all admins, no matter what the level. they are all meant to be there to help every person in the community.

[Pandalink]

Saddened face.


: (

[TruthSvensson]

I think he means higher levels than normal players.

I don't think any admin is higher level than me

[Nexxt]

My admin job (yes, I prefer to call it job, not rank nor status) kept me close towards the community.
I tried to help everyone who I could help and tried to follow the guidelines, set up by the leaders.
I will continue helping people and try to change the points given by the main community leaders to upgrade those point to a level where I could have a possible chance again.

Could do my work with much love and much fun - and I will continue parts of these still (Introducing new players to the community, help players with questions etc...)
AS stated before , every admin fired got a chance again - and we can look down with like "OMG IM FIRED".
But we all have these feelings (the ones who actually care) and we have multiple options.

1. Show your feelings and keep talking like: "Damn, omg , I am not admin - dis sux they wrong"
2. Use the reason why you got fired and try to improve your aspects of the reason.

I'd rather chose for the last option, as I know how other people feel.
It's just a little advice of me, of what I think what's the best.
Like someone earlier said, one step backwards, can result in three steps forwards (for the admin team, and for you as individual, I have to add).

I saw some improvements on this and noticed the admin team, became more "team" then "individual admins"
Good luck guys