SA:MP admin restructure

[Malcolm]

Saying that you feel you've been betrayed just makes me laugh. That's not it at all. I got to do all those things I promised on my admin application. Sure I wish it would've lasted longer, but I've said it before and I'll say it again. You really don't need admin commands to do admin work, it just makes things easier (sure you're not able to ban and all of that stuff, but /report works just as good). You only have to be devoted. I for one gave up on roleplay a long time ago (before I became a moderator/admin). I don't find it as interesting as I used to. I came to Argonath (as an admin) almost every day to work, and not to roleplay. Keep in mind that I found the job fun as well. It wasen't so much a job, but became more of a hobby. "It's not work if you like what you're doing", a principal I follow. I'll still play here, no doubt about that, but I don't think I'll roleplay more than I did as an admin, wich wasen't much. I'll be waiting for questions, so feel free to ask.
I will apply again, I don't have anything else to do :razz:

[Pandalink]

I will not apply again immediately, my reason was correct and I am quite happy to be able to drive for more than 7 seconds without being asked something. I was happy to help, but at the same time wanted to actually do something now and again.

Admittedly the admin team did need some sorting out.
I just feel that the nature of this "sorting out" was a little.. how shall I say.. instant. No demotions and reorganising, just a mass of kicks, many great admins who were well liked alongside their great admin duties.

Either way, the main gripe I have is the high volume of criminal admins kicked, its just a massive step back for Argonath. A criminal group is massively weakened without an admin leading it (I know it sounds ridiculous, but its true :/). Before Araatus had admins, the only person defending us in the admin forum was Ignazio, we were being thrown to the dogs out there.
That all said, the FBI also got hit badly, so whatever.

Good luck to all reapplying, and good luck to those who avoided the mass kick.

[Traser]

I will not apply again immediately, my reason was correct and I am quite happy to be able to drive for more than 7 seconds without being asked something. I was happy to help, but at the same time wanted to actually do something now and again.

Admittedly the admin team did need some sorting out.
I just feel that the nature of this "sorting out" was a little.. how shall I say.. instant. No demotions and reorganising, just a mass of kicks, many great admins who were well liked alongside their great admin duties.

Either way, the main gripe I have is the high volume of criminal admins kicked, its just a massive step back for Argonath. A criminal group is massively weakened without an admin leading it (I know it sounds ridiculous, but its true :/). Before Araatus had admins, the only person defending us in the admin forum was Ignazio, we were being thrown to the dogs out there.
That all said, the FBI also got hit badly, so whatever.

Good luck to all reapplying, and good luck to those who avoided the mass kick.

+1, Nothing more to say.

[Ajeesh]

We did inform each in PM on a case of loosing rights or not...

I did not receive that PM. 

[EliteTerm]

Erm.. quite an essay, Violet..

You did a good job, in my eyes, but there are room for improvements..

[Violet]

Erm.. quite an essay, Violet..

You did a good job, in my eyes, but there are room for improvements..

Of course, nobody is, was or ever will be a perfect administrator. However there is never a perfect system either.

I look forward to answering replies to my previous post.

[Aragorn]

Admittedly the admin team did need some sorting out.
I just feel that the nature of this "sorting out" was a little.. how shall I say.. instant. No demotions and reorganising, just a mass of kicks, many great admins who were well liked alongside their great admin duties.

That was not a mass kick...
That was the building from the beginning...

You totally lost the point... Together with Traser...

[Traser]

That was not a mass kick...
That was the building from the beginning...

You totally lost the point... Together with Traser...

That's How i felt it.. and now you say it's wrong.. but you cant change something i felt then..

[Aragorn]

That's How i felt it.. and now you say it's wrong.. but you cant change something i felt then..

Thats not my job to change your view...

[Traser]

Thats not my job to change your view...

.. I know that Aragorn.
And i can go in discussion with you, but i wont, because i respect you, and your actions.
I Lost my admin status, but i am still a proud player of the server.

[Kojak]

Thank you for your post Violet. Although I will be saddened to see you leave us, I feel that it may be good for you to do so. Perhaps I shouldn't make this judgement, but from the talks I have had with you in the last few days and from your post here I believe you have been hit the hardest by this restructure. The emotion you have displayed tells me two things; firstly that you cared deeply about your position within Argonath administration and secondly that your departure from it has been a great blow to you. As such I feel that taking some time away will be healthy for you.

I'm sorry to see the hurt this has caused you, and I sincerely hope you are able to return to us in the future, you will be missed.

Kojak

[Gandalf]

Violet thanks for your post, and letting your heart out in this.
If you ever wish to clarify things, do not hesitate to talk to us.

Your post shows a problem which we have been trying to solve in this restructure.

To bring  culture in to the admin team of distrust would be a large mistake.
The admin team has to trust each other and should be able to sort their differences instead of creating a culture where they fear someone will run to the kindergarten teacher (or mommy) and tell all.

The reduction of levels has exactly that target, to bring people closer together and take away the idea that they can not discuss a more experienced admin on their actions. If a situation arises that any admin feels should not be overlooked by HQ, they have the same option as any player and that is to report it by email.

[Wash]

The reduction of levels has exactly that target, to bring people closer together and take away the idea that they can not discuss a more experienced admin on their actions. If a situation arises that any admin feels should not be overlooked by HQ, they have the same option as any player and that is to report it by email.

Yes, let the all the admins become 'BFFL's and give the server more chance to moan and whine(as a lack of answering reports).

[Traser]

Yes, let the all the admins become 'BFFL's and give the server more chance to moan and whine(as a lack of answering reports).

Calm down wash..

[JDC]

Yes, let the all the admins become 'BFFL's and give the server more chance to moan and whine(as a lack of answering reports).

Wash, at this rate you are walking on the edge of a pool filled with sharks.

Admin Team is not just a circle of friends, but it is also meant to protect the Players, and that comes first before everything else. With the greatly reduced manpower in the SA:MP Team at the moment, do expect that some reports may not be answered as often since it is not going to be 24/7 that there is an Admin online, but that is only temporary until the next wave of Moderators arrives.