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Dice and Other Forms of Illicit Gambling

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Offline Vince

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Reply #15 on: November 23, 2009, 06:52:54 pm
Quote from: Gandalf on November 23, 2009, 05:59:27 pm


Scamming is when a player is losing money as a result of a trick.
An experinced player telling a new one to wire him 2k in order to get more money is a scam.
Gambling for money and not paying when you lose is not a scam, its taking a risk. If the person you gamble with happens to be having some friends, you might end up hurt...

Just as a little note, same applies for other illegal activity such as drug dealing.

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Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 05:07:08 pm
Thank You For This Information.


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Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 03:48:07 pm
Just cos someone is doing an illegal activity with taking risk of dealing with money (dicing), weapons or drugs doesn't mean they are scamming.. It's as mention above a RISK you take cos you cannot take it to court as you would be doing if you where running a company who offers "legal" services..

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Reply #18 on: December 04, 2009, 02:50:45 pm
Ok. Thanks for the update... very helpfull


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Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 02:29:21 am
I would really appreciate if this rule is looked into.

Today i was gambling with [Will tell as C_G... not revealing his name] and C_G said, 100k bet, for blackjack, and rolled. he busted (22) and /q'd.  around 5 minutes later he logged in and i asked him 'Do you have my 100k!?' and he said 'Gamble at your own risk' insisting he will not pay me. I have F8 pictures of this situation, and i told him. All he did was say the same gamble at your own risk. And ALSO said it was MY FAULT! I find this very ridiculous and this rule should be changed, it seems players are taking advantage of this now and NOT paying their gambling dues. Although I do respect the administrator's decision, I'm not complaining on what they have said, but the way people are abusing this for their own work.

sorry if this offended anyone or an administrator, but I'm just telling what I'm seeing / experiencing.

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Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 08:10:40 am
Quote from: Gandalf on November 23, 2009, 05:59:27 pm
Gambling for money and not paying when you lose is not a scam, its taking a risk. If the person you gamble with happens to be having some friends, you might end up hurt...

Doesn't need to be changed, maybe you should just tell him you and "friends" will take care of him when you see him next.  Yes I mean kidnapping him, killing him or whatever you fancy you have a valid reason to and I don't see it as DMING if he was to scream it.  But constantly doing it well that's another story..

Quote from: Y2JFaN on December 07, 2009, 02:29:21 am
I would really appreciate if this rule is looked into.

Today i was gambling with [Will tell as C_G... not revealing his name] and C_G said, 100k bet, for blackjack, and rolled. he busted (22) and /q'd.  around 5 minutes later he logged in and i asked him 'Do you have my 100k!?' and he said 'Gamble at your own risk' insisting he will not pay me. I have F8 pictures of this situation, and i told him. All he did was say the same gamble at your own risk. And ALSO said it was MY FAULT! I find this very ridiculous and this rule should be changed, it seems players are taking advantage of this now and NOT paying their gambling dues. Although I do respect the administrator's decision, I'm not complaining on what they have said, but the way people are abusing this for their own work.

sorry if this offended anyone or an administrator, but I'm just telling what I'm seeing / experiencing.

You didn't lose money so why the hell are you complaining cause he didn't pay you?
If you are so fucking moody about it go and kidnap him then tell him if he tries any of the shit he pulled on anyone else and you find out you'll kill him then swiftly give him a beating and leave him in the middle of the Bone County Desert. 

Gamble only with people you trust 100%.

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Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 08:29:59 am
In addition to what rusty said, an alternative is to gamble in a casino with a dealer. That way, both parties pay their bets BEFORE the gambling to the dealer, which should ensure payment. If, in the most absurd situation, the dealer fails to pay the bets, take the owner of the casino/dealer to Court.


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Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 09:53:08 pm
Quote from: [Rstar]Rusty on December 07, 2009, 08:10:40 am
You didn't lose money so why the hell are you complaining cause he didn't pay you?
If you are so f**king moody about it go and kidnap him then tell him if he tries any of the shit he pulled on anyone else and you find out you'll kill him then swiftly give him a beating and leave him in the middle of the Bone County Desert. 

Gamble only with people you trust 100%.
1. I would have lost the money say i'd have lost. Technically yes i did lose the money. 2. calm down.. 3. You honestly think killing him once will doany thing? All he will is do it again and again.

would you be allowed to ruin this person's name? Such as: tell they are scammers or something?

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Reply #23 on: December 08, 2009, 03:21:55 pm
You do not have to pay if you lose a bet.
Hence, scamming is allowed outside of casinos.

However, don't expect to be liked anymore.

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Reply #24 on: December 08, 2009, 03:57:01 pm
Would sincerely advice against usage of the term 'scam' with all grammatical variations and cognate expressions for this particular case of gambling simply because, a scam involves losing money or money's equivalent. When a person obtains a higher number or set of numbers using a few commands, he has/does not lose money or its equivalent. It is a game of luck. All he has lost is a possibility to win money.
Example of a scam - Player 1 takes a loan from player 2, changes name to avoid detection, continues the exercise with player 3 and so on.


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Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 04:24:24 am
Quote from: Cutter on December 08, 2009, 03:57:01 pm
Would sincerely advice against usage of the term 'scam' with all grammatical variations and cognate expressions for this particular case of gambling simply because, a scam involves losing money or money's equivalent. When a person obtains a higher number or set of numbers using a few commands, he has/does not lose money or its equivalent. It is a game of luck. All he has lost is a possibility to win money.
Example of a scam - Player 1 takes a loan from player 2, changes name to avoid detection, continues the exercise with player 3 and so on.
I understand, my question was, are you allowed to spread this info and give this person a 'bad name'? Or is that against the rules?

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Reply #26 on: December 12, 2009, 02:16:32 pm
So , If you gamble in Casino , you HAve to pay .
IF you Gamble outside a Casino , you don't have to pay
If you Drug deal , you don't have to pay or give the drugs , same for weapons.

Right ?

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Reply #27 on: December 13, 2009, 01:54:24 pm
Quote from: Petar on December 12, 2009, 02:16:32 pm
So , If you gamble in Casino , you HAve to pay .
IF you Gamble outside a Casino , you don't have to pay
If you Drug deal , you don't have to pay or give the drugs , same for weapons.

Right ?

 Yes. But bad things happen :)

It does allow for some more RP when things are stolen, and makes people learn lessons to not trust everyone. However if you steal you most likely will get screwed over. They can freely announce to anyone not to trust you, they can hunt you down until they retrieve what's theirs etc...

So it is not advised to steal!


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Reply #28 on: December 16, 2009, 04:15:03 pm
Many complain about Argonath not being more 'realistic'. Well, here is the chance for it to be 'realistic'.


SCENARIO:

You want to gamble with a finely dress gentleman. You go to an ally or corner and you make bets and dice. You roll a 5, he rolls a 2. He runs off and doesn't pay. Happens in real life, therefore it is a realistic act. Then you have just made Argonath RPG more 'realistic'

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Reply #29 on: December 26, 2009, 04:13:06 pm
ArgonathRPG forum is now beager in my GoogleChrome  bug ?
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