SWAT weaponequipping during a shoot-out

[Nexxt]

You want SWAT to deploy with golfsticks and 9mm's?

It's not for fun that it's called: SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS.
And I know this is not a real life situation, but if you know in the real SWAT.
You have Alpha, Bravo and Charlie teams (and even more).

If you don't wanna get pwned by SWAT, don't do kidnappings, robberies....

[Simon_B]

i Also think it is worng that FBI just ecript them with 1000 smg or more when nomal patrol & of course armour

i think they only should be used in 207 and stuff like that..

Also thinks its wrong that FBI is allowed to shoot someones vehicle that AINT faster or neither dangerous agaisnt them, ( ARPD rules ) i think it should be the same for FBI & ARPD, since i got /su'ed for evading ( since Battle knew i was doing weed, talking with him over ventrilo )
and then they attempted to crash my car with their SMG i would understand it if they were on foot and using deagles but it was SMG and i was using a feltzer, that car aint faster than a FBI Rancher. Hope it will be changed as well as, they can get full armour 24/7 when suspects has to pay for it.

[smey]

Well, ARPD rules changed since RS4.0. We know can shoot any vehicle we want with SMG.

[TheRock]

Alright Simon... read this aswell...

You the criminals CAUSE Damage to the state, WE the Agents/Officers SERVE to keep it LOW and nobody could take control of the city... You understand this? Among our Payment... we do get FUNDS to Survive and keep cleaning the TOWN... so this is why we get it FREE.. but still... armour has it's own rules in the FBI too... we Don't re-fill armour during a combat/situation, ONLY once it's finished / done.

You pay to destroy us (Buy legal guns and use them Against the law, Bombs, Drugs.. etc. ), We get PAID to stop you.. Nobody forced us to join those ARPD Divisions, we did it our SELF to Protect the state.. so we get THIS.. (Armour - Guns) to Protect the State and to Force you to stop! Get it? If yes.. then you should also stop moaning.

And as for that... this is the reason of Existance of the ARPD and it's Sub-Divisions.. if it wasn't there... who would protect the city? The civilians who destroy it? Nope.

[Fedrico]

You want SWAT to deploy with golfsticks and 9mm's?

Doesn't matter, if you die, just fill it up and rejoin the battle? You'll still win in the end.

I can't see the fairness in it, we need to pay for everything and we can't win, even if we kill you ten times you return and return and return until we are dead. Soon there wont be as many criminals as usual, and your special teams for organised DM wont be needed.

It's not for fun that it's called: SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS.

Yeah, but in your case it should be called UNLIMITED WEAPONS AND LIVES.

And I know this is not a real life situation, but if you know in the real SWAT.
You have Alpha, Bravo and Charlie teams (and even more).

Uhm, and? I can't see your point.

If you don't wanna get pwned by SWAT, don't do kidnappings, robberies....

It's not very hard to kill people with unlimited free weapons, armour and lives. In fact, you are the one who is pwned, because you need 500 advantages to even out the odds.

[David_Omid]

For all those people out there who seem to believe that we only care about script support for cops...

I am working on support for criminals, leave me alone please

[Pazienza]

Wow wow wow. you dont know your members in FBI then, me and one of my friends was in a chase of a suspect. and on the way we picked up a FBI guy there said ohh only 900 smg back

Lurk moar.
Talking about me? Say the name then.
YOU blew my car with your lag. Then one of 'your' men said that he was running out of SMG ammo. Then I said to JOKE "Ooops I only have 9000 left". HOW THE HELL can you take something like that SERIOUSLY.

[Seanolk]

Leave the FBI out of here Please.

If you don't wanna get pwned by SWAT, don't do kidnappings, robberies....

Don't do it? So if we stop it the server will become only an Cop Server. And Criminals on Argonath will end i guess. Yesterday i checked the players and there were ONLY 5 or 6 players who wans't a cop. So my Point is, wanna be a criminal, Don't RP anymore. Run for your Life!

It's not very hard to kill people with unlimited free weapons, armour and lives. In fact, you are the one who is pwned, because you need 500 advantages to even out the odds.

+1 Here

[Unmountable]

FBI has private rules for weaponequip. We do not equip about 1000 SMG as Velux Said. We never equip more then 250+. And we may ONLY equip in a Kidnap and a gangwar. Nothing more. For all the others, we use SMG.

[Stanley_Taylor]

Nobody but Wolfe seemed to get the point of this topic. If you ONLY want to discuss SWAT having the ability to get armour, do it somewhere else. This topic is about the comparison of SWAT vs criminals and how we can make it more balanced by brainstorming new ideas that would give criminals more of an edge than they have right now.

[Romeo]

SWAT obviously had to leave the place, go back to their vehicles and refill their armour and ammunition

Criminals healing in an interior is different...as they are still technically in combat

FBI should equip armour and weapons in the FBI hq, and not from vans.
That means they can camp outside after death, get armed again, and shoot us if we try to escape... even though they were just killed.

[Pandalink]

If we're fighting SWAT then we're probably screwed anyway, since they're basically blue team criminals.
Even so, if I saw anyone at all refilling armour in a police van during a shootout, I would of course suggest every criminal involved heal themselves, its only fair eh?

I don't support cops having 1 life. They suck too bad for that.
In the trial of that rule, the criminals just committed police genocide across the whole server and then were left with no cops to fight at all..
Criminals are too good at combat compared to cops for that to happen.
Cops get infinite lives because they need them. Consider it a criminal handicap, like in golf :<. Even so, cops should still have to die and so on. They shouldn't be able to return to an equip vehicle in combat and refill anything. They should prepare and go in. If they fuck up, they die. Just how it should be.

I am working on support for criminals, leave me alone please

Cool :o.

[HiddenSniper]

..moan moar...

Nexxt, only because you ARE swat. You don't really care.

SAPD can return after death, which means unlimited health. SWAT can refill armour unlimited, which means unlimited armour. Criminal's have a limited amount of health, armour, lives, ammunition.

[Vince]

This topic is in place to have James reply... But he's not here... He would really teach you guys with what he would reply with. I mean seriously why still the complaints? You have the ability to escape and shit.. Is that not enough? Like I've always said the reason cops can return from the death is because ICly they're not the same person, they're 'additional units' responding back to the call. Slap me when the day comes where a criminal IRL kills the whole local police force, SWAT team, FBI, and National Guard, then get back to me.

[Fedrico]

Slap me when the day comes where a criminal IRL kills the whole local police force, SWAT team, FBI, and National Guard, then get back to me.

Slap me when cops can die four times and then come back to jail the suspect.

You said that they act like "additional units"? Interesting, they always seem to know exactly what happened, even though they just arrived. The police radio must be full of text, describing every little detail in every shootout, even with names (which you can't know).