Why is it that SA:MP players are srs bussnies?

[Zaila]

Many on SA:MP are taking the game to seriously, only thinking about earning money and buy better and better houses and cars and bizzes.

about people complaining on non RP'ers:
Everyone is RP'ing in their own way, regular as a new player. Some people like strict roleplay, some people dont. To the people that likes strict roleplay, continue with it, but dont try to force it on others. I'm one of them that aren't using brackets in local chat when i'm talking "OOC", and almost 70% of the time i do it, they are answering me "z0mg, non RP'er, learn to RP n00b". Instead, respect the player and go on, dont start to scream "THAT PERSON IS A NON RP'ER, NEVER RP WITH HIM!!!1111!!1".

As soon as player 1 is doing something as player 2 sees as non RP, player 2 starts to scream in main chat that player 1 is a non rp'ing noob and he can't roleplay. How do you think player 1 feels when someone is tracking him down when he's trying to have fun and RP like he want's to? think about that and you can find the source to the negative energy which exists among the players on the server and creates all this hate.

Moaning
Yes, there is alot of moaning. Moaning about someone DM'ing, moaning about admins aren't doing their job, moaning about almost everything. People are moaning about admins not doing their work, when there is only 2 admins online on 70 - 80 players. Try to think and understand how hard it is to help everyone when you also need to watch out for hackers and so on. Admins are doing their best to help you and are giving up their own playtime to ensure that everyone are having a good time while they are online, and all they get is shit back. Just because they are admins, they can get angry and frustated, they are humands, that's normal and no one can blame them for that. What i wrote later down the post, everyone should respect them for the work they are putting down to protect the server, and they should also have a big Thanks for their work.

New players
Yes, there are new players which is coming to Argonath RPG to have fun. instead they are getting shit on them right away with people calling them noobs, PM'ing them with flame and so on. How do you think they feel? They are trying to have fun but instead they get shit from everyone and they are leaving the server and never comes back. Atleast give new players a chance to see the good side of the server and tell them what they can do. Be friendly, so can they be friendly back. Remember that a new player can have quality's to be the next manager of SA:MP server.

The first step from what i can see is that everyone starts to respect everyone on a reqular basis, which mean, if anyone says something, dont push him down due to he's opinion about something, dont tell him to 'fuck off' because he thinks different then to you. be a model for players new players.

On MTA:VC, we are playing with new players, learning them about server rules, showing them what is possible with /me, and we are having alot of fun with everyone on the server, involving them in RP situations, and having a laught togheter is someone is failing on something, but it's all with respect.

If everyone was like this on SA:MP, it would be a much better place where everyone can grow as a individual and reach their quality to maximum, and everyone can see their true potential.

[EminemRulez]

Here are two ways:

1. Argonath RPG also takes the dictatorship position as any other RPG servers...
2. Argonath gets rid of those moaners and those roleplayers who are trying to shit Argonath with the rules from other servers, aka "serious roleplay"...

Wanna Serious Roleplay? Then Argonath is NOT FOR YOU... Leave it and go moan on Serious RPG servers...

Wanna stay? Then f**king shut the f**k up and have fun, learning how to defend yourself from deathmatcher, stop drool and cry arouns every bullet and remember those Argonath Players who could even fight hackers when found the tricks to defeat them...

Of course we want to stay, Argonath is already good like it is now, of course there is some problems, but its big amount of players playing everyday.
In my opnion, I've played on other roleplay servers and I didn't like them, maybe the reason that I love playing on Argonath is because of the community. If it was like all other RP servers which don't have a public chat...
But people don't get too serious about money, play for fun =)

[Aksel]

I've seen new players roleplay better than some of our regulars.
I can easy rate my roleplay good, since I am one of the small amount who use brackets.

First step is probably to remove the /p.

[Gerrie = Banned (Daco)]

First step is probably to remove the /p.

Wanna Serious Roleplay? Then Argonath is NOT FOR YOU... Leave it and go moan on Serious RPG servers...

[Aksel]

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[Quang]

I've seen new players roleplay better than some of our regulars.
I can easy rate my roleplay good, since I am one of the small amount who use brackets.

First step is probably to remove the /p.

Well not to remove the /p completely. Its better if you auto-mute people who have just died in 5min, so they can calm down instead of moaning in /p. That would probably solve it. 5min is not long...


I can admit I play for more money. The reason?
Well I can say that the reason for that is because its to hard to make money on the server. (My opinion)
I used to play MMORPG, where you kill can get stuff you can sell and earn alot of money. If we had a system where we could get easier money by selling things, people would earn more money and would actually spend them instead of saving up untill get get addicted with it.

[Cutt3r]

Here is what happens to me when I go on any other server where there is no /p.

Cutter: Hey how can I start a job?
*Silence*
*Looks at the radar, sees no one*
*Sees a player nearby after running around 10 minutes*
Cutter: Hey mate how can I get a job
Player: Fuck off noob
*Moves to another player*
Cutter: Hey how can I get a job
Player 2: Didn't you read the z0mg tutorial which lasts for 8 whole minutes telling you everything?
*/q*

Effects are simple -
1) Many new players will simply not come on a server where you need to read a 10 minute tutorial to begin a freakin' game. This is because many may not even know English properly to comprehend the meaning of the tutorial. Besides that most want to have fun - not read a gaming epic saga...
2) No /p means means lesser friendship between players. Argonath RPG has its strong foundation based on the friendship. Many of our members love the community and the friendship and hate /p, not knowing that the essence of that strong foundation may have been /p itself. Think about how many of you began your gameplay using /p and communicating/findout out your friends or people who you know share your thoughts/views....
3) No /p also means that the new players may go to a player is simply not prepared to help. This gives a very bad impression of our server.

Cutt3r

[Pandalink]

have fun, learning how to defend yourself from deathmatcher, stop drool and cry arouns every bullet and remember those Argonath Players who could even fight hackers when found the tricks to defeat them...

This quote wins.

I remember one deathmatcher on MTA:VC really well. Middle of the night, no admins. He was constantly DMing me (I was a cop). We just get going and going and then I killed him so he left.

Come on guys, deathmatchers are usually terribad at fighting, where did the Argonath fighting skills go? : (

Its better if you auto-mute people who have just died in 5min, so they can calm down instead of moaning in /p.

What about "good fight guys" in /p?
You lack trust in the good ones to be civil :/.

[Que]

Or have a command that you, yourself, can decide if you want the mainchat to be on/off. If an admin want you something, then he should contact you thru PM or maybe a special command just for admins to contact people who don't have their mainchat on.

Then the chatters have a alternative, and those who want to focus on roleplay just then, they can do that aswell. 

[MisterSjeiks]

i roleplay a money loving man, oh wait... thats me in RL

AGREED

[Aksel]

This quote wins.

I remember one deathmatcher on MTA:VC really well. Middle of the night, no admins. He was constantly DMing me (I was a cop). We just get going and going and then I killed him so he left.

Come on guys, deathmatchers are usually terribad at fighting, where did the Argonath fighting skills go? : (

Haven't you seen all the times I've been kicked for "DM'ing a DM'er" ?

[Pandalink]

Haven't you seen all the times I've been kicked for "DM'ing a DM'er" ?

Thats an admin issue then, people should be allowed to kill deathmatchers if they choose to do so (and choose to be suspected for awhile).

[Nexxt]

Someone should write a topic:

"How to survive without crying to an admin and moaning in /p"

[Caltson]

There is always this moaning... Sometimes i wonder if some people forgot this servers are for fun, destressing... You guys see it as your second life or something..?

Relax, it's just a game.. Enjoy it instead of moaning.

[Aragorn]

So, If I want to play here, as I want to play, without bothering those who play differently, Am I not welcomed here?

Are not welcomed people who start implementing the own rules into Argonath rules... Who are trying to make Argonath a strict roleplay prison...
Are you trying to bring into Argonath the "serious" roleplay with OOC/IC shit and others do not hey do not fart do not fight do not talk do not pee do not poo etc...? If answer is "yes" - then you are not welcomed...

Argonath RPG has its own rules and if you do not like it - why the fuck we must change it for you?

We had and have a great community which veterans came from free roleplay of Vice City and nobody moaned their asses off about any blah blah of any chat system...

So, If I place an idea who I think is brilliant, who maybe could make Argonath a lot better. Just take picklock for example, Or maybe not to return after death while you're a policer officer and instead accept that you're killed and might chase another suspect. Would this be wrong if I did? As these rules comes from "other servers" etc.

You can ask if idea is good from the developers opinion... But we already met the simple system - more rules are coming from other servers - more shitty players behave and moan... That is why I was, am and will be the supporter of the simplest way of the playing: less rules = more better people=more better admins team...

So you agree with this then?
That we should write on mainchat and earn money on the easy way (quiz) instead of taking roleplay as our first priority?

Do not like main chat (which was always on Argonath) - go on servers without main chat and enjoy the life... We will not remove main chat...

And this is the thoughts that a huge amount of the players has to that:

I do not care.... We were making Argonath with OUR VISION and people liked it... your vision of Argonath (with the huge amount of ZOMG roleplayers) just shitted Argonath to the cheap moaning community where every kid is crying about everything... And where everyone is sure that roleplay depends on the chat system and not on the brains' activity and level of IQ of players themselves...