Why is it that SA:MP players are srs bussnies?

[Que]

Another thing I noticed is that lots of players have a huge double standard. They say for example that Inferno 9 are so good at role playing and are doing everything sooo good, but then they say that they don't like 'ZOMG' roleplay style with brackets and so on. I can say this, that as Inferno 9 roleplays, is almost exactly like most of the players roleplay on LS-RP. According to me it's nothing wrong with how they play or have people changed their minds again? If you feel like this is towards YOU, then it is.

Argonath should be happy to have guys like them here, to play, for fun and actually trying to make it work out. As I am very happy to have them here.

It feels like people are very one-eyed, there's so many styles of roleplay. Instead of being so 'stuck' with one side, try to open your eyes and look at both direction so see possibilites, like 'SHIT, I might learn something from this guy' instead of pushing his idea of roleplay away.


Thanks.
Q.

[Pandalink]

The difference between groups such as RI and those on "BracketRoleplay Servers" are clear.
On those servers, you get punished and generally insulted for not following this rule.
When playing with somebody from RI (Frank for example) I can be proper lolsaurus and he will just roll with it.

[Wash]

Another thing I noticed is that lots of players have a huge double standard. They say for example that Inferno 9 are so good at role playing and are doing everything sooo good, but then they say that they don't like 'ZOMG' roleplay style with brackets and so on. I can say this, that as Inferno 9 roleplays, is almost exactly like most of the players roleplay on LS-RP. According to me it's nothing wrong with how they play or have people changed their minds again? If you feel like this is towards YOU, then it is.

Argonath should be happy to have guys like them here, to play, for fun and actually trying to make it work out. As I am very happy to have them here.


Q.

Exactly.

Frank_Hawk and whichever group he creates/is part of always have a strict role-play structure. They use IC/OOC expressions, and attempt to role-play their characters are realistically as possible. This is what the server calls 'ZOMG-RP', yet when asked which is the best group - you say Frank_Hawk's group. Despite this, hypocritical players still find room to tell people that want to role-play like Frank_Hawk to get the fuck out.

[Que]

It depends on which server you're playing on, I just took LS-RP as an example because that's the server the haters are talking about.

[Pandalink]

It depends on which server you're playing on, I just took LS-RP as an example because that's the server the haters are talking about.

Thats probably because its crap.
T _ T

[Que]

It has 250 players online at the same time every day, I wonder what they see in it.
Don't look at everything like it's black or white, Panda. 
No need to insult.

No more talk about LS-RP, please.

[JDC]

There are no problems with people from "Bracketroleplay Servers" and "ZOMGRP Servers" playing here on Argonath. The problem is them inserting their own little rules in an attempt to convert Argonath, as said in RON's post.

Thats probably because its crap.
T _ T

Quite really... out of curiosity, a few months back, I visited that Server as a "noob player" to see what all the hype by the LS-RP Haters on Argonath was about. Guess what, the first words said to me when I bugged some guy how to get started were "Don't bug me, noob". Then I understood.

Defending against a DMer is great, however players have already no clue what a DMer is. I have witnessed several players when a newbies comes near and hits them with their fists to draw out their strongest gun and start a full chase to kill the 'DMer'.
Usually while moaning that admins did not react on their report.

When I defend against DMers on SA:MP, I take delight in parrying the DMer's blows with his fists while trying to explain to him that this is not a DM Server. If he takes out a gun and shoots, then I do the same in self-defense.

Sawnoffing a random new guy who punches you is a different story.

Back in the days of MTA:VC, if no admins were present, or if the scripts went down, we would declare Operation: Jericho. Players would handle themselves against DM'ers and hackers. We would rush to the same location, Fort Baxter, and defend ourselves as necessary. At some points, we would even RP floods and hurricanes...

I miss those days

Sometimes during the 'Unholy Hours', when scripts went down, there were no admins who could fix it, and DMing hackers came on- I actually gathered the players at LSPD to mount a defense. We had a lot of fun.

[Vince]

I've played on that server before.

I registered as a woman, joined with a granny skin and roleplayed Alan White's grandmother quite well. I provoked a car full of Italian mafia members, drove around with Alan, accused an Asian man of raping me at a bus stop who then reacted with a "O.O" face, and I had Alan come with the 14 gauge. It was really fun, and I had a hell of a laugh that night. It was fun. I can never imagine being an everyday player there because it won't be fun. Sometimes I feel like Argonath looses that fun, but then you befriend cool people like Maxy and Panda and you start laughing again when you press 'connect'. Sure, you have people complaining but ignore them when you're trying to have fun, and trust me, you'll succeed.

Reason Frank's groups are voted best. Not only because they can role-play, but because they encourage new players to roleplay with him and help teach them. I wouldn't be as friendly with Frank as I am today if he wasn't friendly back in the day when I was first beginning as a cop. Not to go off in a rant but...................... I patrolled and got gas at GS9 everyday. Seeing Frank there practically everyday we exchanged greeting and honestly, I think he can say I've grown If he was to say "Go away noob, stop coming by my fucking territory everyday ffs." How do you think I would feel? Pretty damn shitty and would most likely just quit the server..

[Boxy]

large post.

Cool story, bro.

[Vince]

Example: I'm on my way to San Fierro from Los Santos, I'm in a hurry and I basically don't got no time for a pullover by a cop. He stops me for no particular reason, like a routinecheck. Can I say "I don't want to roleplay with you, I'm in a hurry?"

'Chea homie. You'll get suspected though.

[rJCaiG]

Players, unfortunately, always were, are and always will be money greedy. - Which is the thing that causes most of the problems even today.

Wrong. We have not always been so money-oriented. Back in the day we actually roleplayed without the centre of the earth being money.

[Frank_Hawk]

I can't believe I'm typing this. I have a serious hangover (finished half a bottle of Hennesy) and puked up 4 times this morning. I'm a strong believer in our new players hence the belief to write this. - EDIT: I puked up half way throughout writing this - Let this be a lesson to all those who comtemplate excessive drinking.

Its important for us to realise that there is a diverse player base within Argonath. Naturally, people have different perspectives. I think what is most extraordinary about Argonath, is that it embraces all types of roleplay. There is no set structure or limitation; instead people are allowed to use their imagination and creativity to excel.

Building on the comments of Rage Inc [RI] and Inferno 9 [i9] Its also important to understand that both groups are equally committed towards the development of new players. I have always striven to teach, guide and nurture new players as they are the backbone of this community. They are the most keen to learn and express credentials which are unparalleled by the elite and regular player base of Argonath. I love new players, whether they are freecops or attacking you for no reason. Everything has a purpose. If a new player is attacking you, they probably want attention. Instead of jumping into 'defence mode' and screaming 'ABUSE' and 'ADMIN' try to roleplay with them. Ive found that when attacked by a new player, /hail, /ill and /hurt make them stop attacking you. Why? Because they are baffled with excitement knowing that their attacks have hurt you.

In time, through the process of nurturing and teaching, these players become part of the regular player base of Argonath. Depending on the teaching they receive at the beginning, it will define the rest of their Argonath career. In turn we are all equally responsible for eachother's wellbeing and development.

We have all the tools to excel among our competitors (including LS-RP) It's only a matter of having a common vision and utilising them to their full effect.

[SugarD]

Wrong. We have not always been so money-oriented. Back in the day we actually roleplayed without the centre of the earth being money.

I can back that up. MTA:VC is where it all started. The old days were not about money at all. Players had fun with what was available, and /me was a huge deal. When new scripts came out, it was like the roleplay kicked into high gear...but with time corruption came into play, and it hit SA:MP hard. MTA:VC was able to pull away, but none of Argo will ever fully recover from it.

[Gandalf]

Frank : I suggest you to eat a piece of lemon whenever you take a sip of your Henessy.
It will allow you to finish half a bottle and wake up the next morning singing.

As far as lack of RP is concerned, I see too many people who are not open to letting new people join. As soon as someone enters the are who is unknown, immediately a defensive wave starts. The first thing is a shout of 'this is private property, get out'. Next they start 'you are ruining RP'. And then they pull out a weapon and start the DM cry.

My advise is that whenever a new player comes near, you welcome him and try to involve them in to your play instead of pushing them away. Not only will they learn much faster to enjoy playing, also its an opportunity to make new friends.

[TheRock]

That thing about the Defensive Wave, yes, it's an issue of some.


but I always try to do.. and help them with CMB/AV-DS... because everybody deserves a chance to grow up & be your friend!