Why is it that SA:MP players are srs bussnies?

[Nexxt]

**Roleplay**

We are in vice city. Night is coming and we don't know what's out there.
There has been words about an serial killer from a foreign country. The present anti-serial-killer system is down.
And the contact with the cops (scripts) has been broken.

I'm cluthing my bottle of vodka and my shotgun, we have barricaded ourself in the old military Fort Baxter.
As we laugh and play cards, I can hear the armies outside walk. Death himself (dmers) is here.

I'd want to cry to the gods (admins) but they are not here. I got 10000 $ in clean cash in my pockets.
It's so cold. I hear break into the fort. As I cluth my weapon I get hurt. So hurt.

"Gods (admins) help us!"

But no thy answer came.
What should I do? We still got a functioning telephone wich we can call the higher lords with. And scream and whine in there.

But it's late. 2 Am in the morning.
I imagine myself that this is a zombie infestation. And grab my gun, laugh with my friend. Defend ourself. And survive for another day.

We had fun, while defending ourself against the dmers who refused to listen, we decided to take breaks and have a barbeque. It was so good and fun. But we had a problem.

One of our friend got so hurt that he lost an weapon and 500$. He screamed "OMG f**kING NOOBS LOLOL I WANT MY MONEY THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT) we told him to chill down, it's a game. Let us patch you up and get you a new gun so we can continue to defend ourself against the zombies. And we took our weapons and a hotdog. And went out there. Claimed our freedom, and our right to have fun.

In that day and night, no admins had ever heard of any dmers, they only had heard about players that defended thier right to have fun and preserve the rpg on thier own. Money was lost, but the fun never rested. No blood tears was cried about those 500$, because friendship was worth so much more. A friend to have fun with is worth more than crying over some money and in the end getting you banned for whining so incredible much with the capslock.

TL;DR learn to defend yourself and preserve your right as an Argonathian. Fun is the number one priority after all. 

+1

[MisterSjeiks]

**Roleplay**

We are in vice city. Night is coming and we don't know what's out there.
There has been words about an serial killer from a foreign country. The present anti-serial-killer system is down.
And the contact with the cops (scripts) has been broken.

I'm cluthing my bottle of vodka and my shotgun, we have barricaded ourself in the old military Fort Baxter.
As we laugh and play cards, I can hear the armies outside walk. Death himself (dmers) is here.

I'd want to cry to the gods (admins) but they are not here. I got 10000 $ in clean cash in my pockets.
It's so cold. I hear break into the fort. As I cluth my weapon I get hurt. So hurt.

"Gods (admins) help us!"

But no thy answer came.
What should I do? We still got a functioning telephone wich we can call the higher lords with. And scream and whine in there.

But it's late. 2 Am in the morning.
I imagine myself that this is a zombie infestation. And grab my gun, laugh with my friend. Defend ourself. And survive for another day.

We had fun, while defending ourself against the dmers who refused to listen, we decided to take breaks and have a barbeque. It was so good and fun. But we had a problem.

One of our friend got so hurt that he lost an weapon and 500$. He screamed "OMG f**kING NOOBS LOLOL I WANT MY MONEY THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT) we told him to chill down, it's a game. Let us patch you up and get you a new gun so we can continue to defend ourself against the zombies. And we took our weapons and a hotdog. And went out there. Claimed our freedom, and our right to have fun.

In that day and night, no admins had ever heard of any dmers, they only had heard about players that defended thier right to have fun and preserve the rpg on thier own. Money was lost, but the fun never rested. No blood tears was cried about those 500$, because friendship was worth so much more. A friend to have fun with is worth more than crying over some money and in the end getting you banned for whining so incredible much with the capslock.

TL;DR learn to defend yourself and preserve your right as an Argonathian. Fun is the number one priority after all. 

i miss VC, wish my CD didnt break D:

[Jcstodds]

How to defeat a hacker (SA:MP - Argonath 07)

These days I use a sword.

[HiddenSniper]

Someone should write a topic:

"How to survive without crying to an admin and moaning in /p"

On it.

[Gandalf]

How to play without crying for admins ?

1. Remember the money is worth nothing. Its just numbers on your screen and having or not having it will do nothing in real life.

2. Share your rewards. If you are cop and someone helped with jailing or killing, send them a share of your reward. If everyone does it, all will benefit. Same for your busines...get people to help you out and actually pay them from your profits..

3. Explain. Many people rulebreak because they are not sure about the rules. Try to explain them yourself before calling in the admins.

4. Remember its a game. So what if you get killed by some DMer sometimes, or someone dents your car meaning you have to spend another $100 for repairs ?
Its no big deal.

[JDC]

How to play without crying for admins ?

1. Remember the money is worth nothing. Its just numbers on your screen and having or not having it will do nothing in real life.

2. Share your rewards. If you are cop and someone helped with jailing or killing, send them a share of your reward. If everyone does it, all will benefit. Same for your busines...get people to help you out and actually pay them from your profits..

3. Explain. Many people rulebreak because they are not sure about the rules. Try to explain them yourself before calling in the admins.

4. Remember its a game. So what if you get killed by some DMer sometimes, or someone dents your car meaning you have to spend another $100 for repairs ?
Its no big deal.

It was better on MTA:VC, since people there didn't moan and cry for Admins, we only needed Admins when there was a hacker or someone raising serious bullshit.

Argonath RPG is not just a Chatroom, but it is not a Serious Roleplay Server. People are free to RP seriously here, but imposing their RP styles on others, introducing all sorts of BS rules and regulations for others to follow, and criticizing anyone who does not agree with their "Argonath is not RP enough" view are free to GTFO and are not being stopped from going somewhere else.

Dictatorship? Bullshit, we are more welcoming than other Communities. Those people who think that anyone trying to resist the "Serious Leet RP Infection" that has angered Aragorn so much, that the person resisting is a nonRPer and wants Argonath to be a Freeroam, are talking nothing but total bullshits.

Once again, people should read this post.

Here are two ways:

1. Argonath RPG also takes the dictatorship position as any other RPG servers...
2. Argonath gets rid of those moaners and those roleplayers who are trying to shit Argonath with the rules from other servers, aka "serious roleplay"...

Wanna Serious Roleplay? Then Argonath is NOT FOR YOU... Leave it and go moan on Serious RPG servers...

Wanna stay? Then f**king shut the f**k up and have fun, learning how to defend yourself from deathmatcher, stop drool and cry arouns every bullet and remember those Argonath Players who could even fight hackers when found the tricks to defeat them...

Happy New Year btw

[Whiteman]

I used to kill hackers myself, in the good old days when argo had minigames or whatever it was called.

[CM Daniel]

I have posted this a week ago somewhere else on the forum. But I guess it applies to this topic too.

I have been here since the december month of 2006, and I can tell you, the situation hasn't changed. The perception of the situation has changed.

I'll explain why. In all of the time I have been here, players have always been after money. You know why? Because this is a role playing game, where money takes its place in the center. You can say it's all about the roleplay, but it is the objective (to get money, just like in real life) that creates the roleplay situations.

In the MTA:VC days I have witnessed the same as I do now in SA:MP, players were on a hunt for money. But you need to ask yourself whether that is a bad thing or not (with the reasoning given above).

In my time here on Argonath I've always seen raging statements of how good Argonath was in 'the old days', where 'nobody was after money'.

When one makes such statement, one must make a clear difference between memory and reality. Because those two are paradoxically different. Memories usually only contain a part of the actual reality: the good part.

So, back to the old days. It is ironic how I haven't witnessed a single day in the old days where there weren't players deathmatching, hunting for money, moaning and doing a lot of other things that are concidered bad in the 'eyes of the public'. I am personally getting tired about all the sighing and crying about how good the old days were, where the situation wasn't any different than it is now. The community has never been perfect, and you know what? It cannot be perfect. I'll make it clear to all of you: there is not difference in the situation between the old days and the new days!

I have had a great time here on Argonath ever since that time I joined the MTA:VC server. Yes, unlike some other people, I had as good of a time then as I have now. Why do you think I am still here?

Now I have a question for these people who love to make such statements. Why, for the love of god, do you like to paint the new days (in your view) as something to be depressed about? Why do you have to present 'moaners' and 'money hungry players' as the key stereotypes for this community? Why!

What these people are doing is projecting an overall hopeless image of how the community is now in their eyes, and presenting it as the truth, while it is anything but.

[Catzu]

How to play without crying for admins ?

1. Remember the money is worth nothing. Its just numbers on your screen and having or not having it will do nothing in real life.

2. Share your rewards. If you are cop and someone helped with jailing or killing, send them a share of your reward. If everyone does it, all will benefit. Same for your busines...get people to help you out and actually pay them from your profits..

3. Explain. Many people rulebreak because they are not sure about the rules. Try to explain them yourself before calling in the admins.

4. Remember its a game. So what if you get killed by some DMer sometimes, or someone dents your car meaning you have to spend another $100 for repairs ?
Its no big deal.

Very very clever and clean I mean CLEEEAN thinking,you have my respect for ever!!! Thats all of us suppos to be

[RafaDK]

Dude, players are just kids (70%) these days that want to own the festest cars, best houses, well earning businesses, etc...

Argonath RPG is not like old days anymore, some very precious players left, all that remained is just some money greedy kids, and some few old school RP'ers.

Everyone loves to moan on the main chat when they get a pretty valid suspection, and they go like "ADMINS WTF ABUSE, UNSUS ME PLZ".

It's just about money now, only a few people care about the RP anyways.

Daco -.-  "RAF GIVE ME 5K PLIZZ"  look whos talking -.-

How to defeat a hacker (SA:MP - Argonath 07)

These days I use a sword.

LOL. JCS i never mess with you again sorry. :P

[CBFasi]

Good RP is being able to react to any situation in a way like you would react on the street, and trying to make it fun for all involved.

Well said


This especially should go for cops...

WHO realy cares if you suspect did /hail and now decides to run away... DONT MOAN, chase him, carry on...

WHO CARES that the kidnappers killed the hostage, carry on DONT MOAN.

WHO cares he wont give you the weed he has on him.....

Just rememeber as Gandalf has said... ADJUST your rp to suit the situation..

If you being robbing someone and a cop comes along and fires his gun... DONT MOAN, thin he a cop your a criminal... adjust your RP... play WITH it not against it.

You got sussed for speeding... WELL you can have fun running as a criminal...

You was in a RP and someone set a hit on you...  DONT MOAN, play with it, get protection, enjoy it..

You got killed by a dmer.. well you hopefully spawned away, just carry on playing...

You got attacked by a dmer... DEFEND youself, admins prefer a player that is willing to help themselves within limits.

If a rp situation changes due to outside influence... change with it, it can make it interesting as instead of it going the way you wanted the RP to go, its now going a different way, it does not make it less fun.

STOP moaing if the rp does not go your way, your not the only one involved, remember criminals cops are part of this server and if your commiting crimes, expect cops, even if you didnt want them in your rp.. sames oes with cops, if the criminals do not react as you want, SO WHAT, carry on, play, dont moan.

If players are spawn camping on an entrance or exit plan a way to solve it, sometimes its called wait them out !  Do not expect quick solutions, expect a solution that takes thinking and imagination.

Do not expect admin help if you broke a rule, recently a guy complained about a carjacker and he carjacked it back, then the guy carjacked it back... both at fault, not one....

Most of all players.... enjoy the challange of a dynamically changing situation.

[Kent]

Well, money is also important for RP.
You can live in houses, you can own your own cars.
But there are several problems:
As someone said before (dont know who anymore), people only care about the best cars, best houses, best business, but ArgonathRPG is for roleplaying, not for money ... Currently I own a house, with a normal value! (115K)

[Varjaca]

Yeah before admins had some patience and people didint moan so much but thats cause admins were cool with it and so were players, then the strict rules came wich yeah didint allow some new things and RP got more serious cause some things werent aloud. in old scripts money was easy to make honestly at 0.1b when i joined i made 100k with one week and it was hard to spend that kind of cash so there was no moaning about cash cause it was easy to get. Times have changed cash is harder to get that easly and you can spend it very fast on guns,cars that cost like 2 millions, Houses what cost like 15 millions or ammunations what cost like yeah unlimited millions. I dont really understand that moan about money and stuff I dont have that kind of problem cause I live in poor place and i have a van, thats all i need. I use my cash only to pimp cars.

About serious roleplay. Serious roleplay is fun also, why do you think people do it otherwise? They start to moan cause their RP leads to no where after countless times of attempts. They wont have fun and thats the reason to moan. Admins are yeah very strict and sometimes even rude some people dont like it and they start to fight with them etc. I got nothing against admins but yeah, the patience should come back then everything should change, not just admin patience but player patience too and they shoudlnt care about money so much, why the f**k would you need villa, ammunation or an fancy car what costs you millions? Just enjoy what you have and learn to respect it and use it.

I use my money to pimp my car, buy armour sometimes... And dont know, buy 9mm when im too lazy to drive to my home and /load weapon...

[Pandalink]

You got attacked by a dmer... DEFEND youself, admins prefer a player that is willing to help themselves within limits.

Do not expect admin help if you broke a rule, recently a guy complained about a carjacker and he carjacked it back, then the guy carjacked it back... both at fault, not one....

These two points are contradictory, please clarify.

[JDC]

These two points are contradictory, please clarify.

I'll be happy to do that.

It is not a rule-breaking offense to defend yourself from a DMer (but do not moan if you get wanted if you end up killing him), but it is one to carjack your vehicle back from a guy who carjacked it from you, just like flaming someone who flames you.