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Something I've wondered for several years.

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on: January 14, 2010, 12:10:56 am
Hey guys, there's something I've been wondering for like two-three years.
When it comes to forced roleplay, there's always this talk about ''criminals forcing people'', I mean with robberies, kidnaps and stuff.

But when it comes to cops, no one is actually telling them that ''forcing roleplay is not allowed''.. I mean, If I'm like roleplaying with a friend of mine and a cop comes and more and less destroys the roleplay with a pullover or something similiar. Would that be forcing roleplay as well? Because in that situation, it is basically the same as when you're attempting to rob someone. You like forcing him to do something that he doesn't want, and if he don't do it, he'd be suspected.

I'm neutral, I would roleplay with the cop and with the criminal, that's like what I'm here for.
But there's always this complaining about criminals forcing and shit, but what about the cops then?

I'd like to see what people think about it and what the rule says about it.
Because I've never known.
And please, no talk about 'you're a criminal, you hate cops', because I made it to see the opinion of yours. Not because I ''hate'' cops, which I don't do.
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Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 12:17:49 am
This is actually a good question, I have never seen anyone say to a cop who pulls them over "sorry, I am just trying to get somewhere, I don't want to roleplay a traffic stop"



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Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 12:29:38 am
This is actually a good question, I have never seen anyone say to a cop who pulls them over "sorry, I am just trying to get somewhere, I don't want to roleplay a traffic stop"

I have, then I said "I can't be bothered roleplaying with you", and I /q'd. Couldn't log back in because I was banned for it.



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Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 12:31:55 am
When you decide to break the law, you agree cops may knock at your door. Actions and consequences. I don't see how that is forcing.

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Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 12:35:52 am
When you decide to walk in the ghetto, you agree gang members may rob you. Actions and consequences. I don't see how that is forcing.
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Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 12:39:22 am
When you decide to break the law, you agree cops may knock at your door. Actions and consequences. I don't see how that is forcing.

How do you break the law when you're driving on a road with your friend for example, mate?
Maybe you don't want to roleplay with the police at that time, maybe you got something else to do.
Then you DO have to pullover, and you DO have to give up your roleplay for the police officer, you see my point here? That is, in my eyes the same thing as a criminal want you to stop while he's trying to rob you.

Whether if you roleplay a criminal or a cop, even a regular guy who is selling hotdogs, you should have the same rule, if you know what I'm saying.
And that's what confusing me, and has always done.



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Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 12:41:26 am
When you decide to break the law, you agree cops may knock at your door. Actions and consequences. I don't see how that is forcing.
He is talking about a regular traffic stop for a check. The person who get pulled over didn't break the law (yet).

That's what I think que ment...


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Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 01:36:06 am
This is actually a good question, I have never seen anyone say to a cop who pulls them over "sorry, I am just trying to get somewhere, I don't want to roleplay a traffic stop"
I do it all the time, when indeed i do not have time for a role play, or when my concentration is simply not on its level.

About the subject, my view is that if i do not commit a crime, there is no way anyone can force me to have a role play with them. Traffic stops, regular checks, etc are just part of random role plays, you are not obligated to be part of them no meter what anyone says.

But the problem with this facts is that when you are a criminal, and you try making a role play people spam you with (( I dont wanna role play with you now, you cant force me)), but when you do the same with Law force, even the elite parts of them, you are definitely gonna get suspected for "Disobeying officers orders" or "Evading" etc.

So what we have here is a simple hypocritical situation, although officially no one can force a role play on others, members of the law unlike criminals and civilians, can do it when you are not obligated to do it, and also  get away with it, if not even damaging you ( by lame suspection ).

And just for does who think i am talking about newbies in Police (Freecops ) etc, i am not most of them wont do you any harm if you explain them politely, unlike Officers and ranks up, who just plays around basically roleplaying your God.

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Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 01:45:31 am
I have never seen anyone say to a cop who pulls them over "sorry, I am just trying to get somewhere, I don't want to roleplay a traffic stop"

What about me on every single traffic stop ever? I hate getting pulled over.
I'm not talking about when I blast through Los Santos at 200 kmph, I expect you to pull me over. I'm talking about the other day when that cop rammed my car by driving on the wrong side of the road, then pulled me over for "bad driving".

As a note to everyone who might pull me over.. the longer the cop wastes my time, the more I will attempt to be ridiculous. If he refuses to actually roleplay anything (one time, a cop actually just sat in his car for about 100-200 seconds, and when I moved he suspected me..) I will drive to bayside and then accidentally blow up my car, sadly dying. Enjoy your drive back, officer.

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Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 01:56:49 am
I will drive to bayside and then accidentally blow up my car, sadly dying. Enjoy your drive back, officer.

Did you just admit to rule breaking?



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Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010, 02:00:25 am
Did you just admit to rule breaking?
He stated that in this confused world, where everything is going on so fast, accidents are  happening constantly. lol

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Reply #11 on: January 14, 2010, 02:27:52 am
Did you just admit to rule breaking?

What? Of course not - I merely stated that after my pilgrimage to Bayside my car is likely to be damaged, and I'm not certain that I will escape the vicinity in time to survive should the car set on fire.

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Reply #12 on: January 14, 2010, 03:20:44 am
Like it or not, you will be forced to roleplay that situation. This is an exception to the general rule because even in real life, if you haven't done a crime, you may be asked to stop for a random check. True, 'Argonath is not a real life server' but we sure have elements of it that which is what creates a base for a roleplay situation.
Thus as you would know you have 2 options here - 1. Pull over and flash your licence when asked to; 2. Try to get away(but will most probably get you suspected).

However, you can always report to an admin if a particular player is apparently abusing you by repeatedly asking you to stop after a recent check(For example 3 stops in 10 minutes or so). This is an act of killing the fun for one side(I say this because the person is not a suspect) in whatever roleplay they do.

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Reply #13 on: January 14, 2010, 03:32:16 am
With /frisk, how it use to show up PINK if you dident have drugs, and blue if you did, EVEN THOUGH it said you had 0 drugs, if it was blue it meant the cops search was unsucsessfull.

Cops use to say when it said "You search the suspect and find no drugs" they would tell me "FFS HAND OVER THE F***ING DRUGS" and stuff. THATS force rp.


On the highway though, ive been stopped for driving on the wrong side of the road and asked to be let go because i was going somewhere to buy a car and the cop let me off :)

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Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 03:45:05 am
you registered in october '09, how could you be wondering about this for a few years if you havent been around for a few years



 


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