FBI and SWAT

[Void]

This topic is not intended for "ohaidar let this situation escalate so we can all flame the work of SWAT and FBI"

You need rational ideas/thoughts....not remonstration

[Pandalink]

Now really, the FBI do not need to start an argument here - it is not necessary.

[SugarD]

I will make this concise and laconic..
How juvenile is arguing over "we are better" when we all belong to the same freaking community? Quite many members of FBI and SWAT have provoked and flamed one another, failing to attend to this important fact. From now on, any FBI or SWAT members who start arguments over such low-level topics will be punished..

Thank you Panda for your constant bullying, this is the last time you do so, no matter your opinion on the topic, if you dislike FBI, then, they are happy but for me it`s just another report about bullying and it`s getting to waste my time by now. So you stop it.

As for the rest, many times in the past such situation came back from both sides, CBF can tell you all, I can tell you all, we had alot of post exchanges regarding this issue.

Now if FBI and SWAT are unable to act like grown up people, they will have to face administration.

End of the line.

Agreed on both. +1 to both of you!

[Vince]

Panda has a point.. It may not retain to every member but he has a point.

[JDC]

I have no problems with you as a player, but I am sick of your moaning. Other than that, you still have my respect for everything else. Why can't you just make a constructive suggestion for FBI rather than negative criticism for once, and you and I would get along A LOT better.

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[SugarD]

How about one day in the server where FBI and SWAT switch roles? Just one day. Then they could see each other from the other's point of view. It may end up opening their eyes up and creating change...

[JDC]

How about one day in the server where FBI and SWAT switch roles? Just one day. Then they could see each other from the other's point of view. It may end up opening their eyes up and creating change...

That is a good idea. Let's?

[smey]

Looking at your sig .. I don't think thats a good idea JDC

FBI: Try to fix things
SWAT: Clean the mess if it failed

[Altair_Carter]

Seriously Panda, your statements "FBI has God Mode",

Fail. He didn't say that. Or you see every Anti-FBI moaner as Panda?

[SargentJosh]

The idea of switching roles is not a good idea. FBI has national security for Argonath and to be honest. I see alot of SWAT suspected on the server.

Now then. Panda, if you could stop your constant moaning about FBI, much apprectiated. Your view against FBI is widely known among the server now.

And for all other people who have a problem with FBI, take it up at our Forum

And for all the people who have a problem with SWAT, take it up with CBF, Vince, James_Hunter.

Requesting topic lock before this turns into a flame war. I can see it happening.

[Oliver]

How about one day in the server where FBI and SWAT switch roles? Just one day. Then they could see each other from the other's point of view. It may end up opening their eyes up and creating change...

To be effective as SWAT you need countless training sessions to JAM all the tactics in your head so the field commander doesn't individually have to tell everyone what to do. It's easier to 'Alpha team, defensive positions on the right. Bravo team, defensive positions in the center/left. Charlie team, cover our rear.' When people hear the command 'defensive positions' they know what to do, how to do it efficiently and quickly so it doesn't look like a clusterfuck.

In two-three weeks the SWAT team has only suffered ONE casualty and that was because of a retarded operative who ran out of cover 'OOH SHINY LALALALA *boom*'

Then again, to be a good FBI agent you need to MEMORIZE countless procedures, rules etc.

If either side was switched around then it would utterly fail.
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And for all the people who have a problem with SWAT, take it up with Vince

WHY VINCE? Vince is just the comic relief guy in SWAT (who happens to kick ass while doing it), he doesn't lead.

If you have a problem with SWAT then take it up with CBF since he's the chief of SWAT.. James is just the field commander who is responsible for SWAT's performance on the field.

[EminemRulez]

Don't take this as provoking, but shouldn't FBI and SWAT work togheter?You know, you both are officers, from the SAPD... Imagine IRL cops fighting eachother and criminals watching, I'd laugh at that 

It's ridiculous Police arguing with police, get a f***ing police car and go get some criminals, you know, have fun?

[SargentJosh]

Don't take this as provoking, but shouldn't FBI and SWAT work togheter?You know, you both are officers, from the SAPD... Imagine IRL cops fighting eachother and criminals watching, I'd laugh at that 

It's ridiculous Police arguing with police, get a f***ing police car and go get some criminals, you know, have fun?

Yes, but I know Vince gets shit done in a good amount of time.

Also, FBI isn't police. We are a Law Authority, same as Police, Police is also a Law Authority.

[Pandalink]

I find it sad that despite my attempt to post a constructive input to this topic, JDC felt the need to start another argument.
Luckily, I won't lower myself to that level.

Nonetheless, I will reiterate a fact, and that is the FBI was made by individuals, and it is still run by those individuals. The effect of this is up for discussion of course, but you cannot argue that it is a private group, unlike the SAPD which is an entity no longer run by its creators.

This is my personal opinion, in a nutshell and without all the hatin':

Even with the best intentions, self interest will show up in a group that you made and want to see succeed.
I have absolute faith in my members, and it takes a godly amount of proof and screenshot, chatlog, and witness evidence to make me actually kick someone for doing something bad that I did not witness.

I do not personally think the FBI any different to a criminal group, in terms of structure.
They are merely on the "other side" as it were.

[rJCaiG]

I hold a lot of respect for FBI and I always try to be fair and neutral in relations with them....If only my comrades would decide to improve things. It's more fun and much easier to get along then to oppose and be hateful.