Argonath: The good, the bad, and the.....huh?! [Semi-explicit]

[Leon.]

The good:
Too many to describe specifically, and the fact that this is not the goal of my topic. I love Argonath, scripts, most of the people there, but not everything is perfect.

THE BAD:
1. Unrepairable Administrative Flaws - Flaming
Many of us know what flaming is. Instead of describing it, I'm going to show an example:
"f**k you, Billy Joe!"
As you can see, bad guy has insulted Billy Joe by saying "f**k you". He is then punished. Now, bad guy has calmed down and decided to tell a small, entertaining story.
"Hey guys, there was this f**king rock I came across"
You have been kicked for flaming

WHAT THE f**k!?

Hold it, let's pause right here. Was that honestly flaming? No. He just blatantly said a cuss word, "f**k" to be exact. And he was kicked for it. This isn't flaming, for the love of God. Earlier today, I've sent a report with these PRECISE and EXACT Words, INCLUDING EXACT punctuation:
"Turn off the f**king caps!"
I was THEN kicked for flaming. Who the f**k did I flame? What, did I flame the nitrogen in the air? Did I flame the soil? Who the f**k knows? But the point is, when I try to point out this little error that can be solved in five seconds, this shit happens:
"DROP IT, DONT MOAN, QUIT bad guyING, f**k OFF, YOU ARE A STUPID WHORE SO STOP COMPLAINING, GO RP, STFU, GTFO, LEAVE, /Q, QQ MORE"
Alright, what the f**k? This is where the flame initially begins. An administrator refuses to make a simple apology for a small mistake, and shit would be all well.
"SOZ 4 KIKING U, MISUNDERSTANDING"
"ITS K"
"K"
BUT NO! It went like this:
"Um, cussing and flaming are kinda different...with all due respect"
"STFU OR I BAN U >_>"
And I'm all:
"I just tried to correct a simple mistake."
"STFU QUIT MOANING MOANER EAT BANANA HAHAHAHAAHAHA"
Then IRL, I facepalm my nose inside out into my skull. Do you realize what this is? This is the start of a flame war, and the direct showing of ignorance. Admins f**k up too; wrong ID bans, typo, who gives a f**k. Though some don't admit to these mistakes. Now suddenly, other players begin jumping in, bringing in the "QUIT MOANING" bullshit, trying to be Aragorn's B-G-Home-dawgz or some other shit.
"DUDE JUST STFU"
"QUIT MOANING"
"y dont u just stfu and leav?"
See, they're just as ignorant. I'm telling them, they are not apart of this, so please do not get involved. OH, AND GUESS WHAT THE f**k HAPPENS
I GET A f**kING DELICIOUS BANANA. You know why? Because the admin refuses to see WHAT THE f**k provoked me in the first place? For Christ's sake, I could say Bob_Guy's mom is a douche, and he says "f**k YOU bad guy!". He gets a kick, I sit here laughing. You have NO IDEA how badly that pisses off the guy on the wrong end! Then, two hours later, the heated discussion ends when a higher level admin steps in and makes everything better. Now that's more like it! Handle it a little more like that guy over there in the blue!

The basic problem: The admin wants to retain the, big tough, super duper scarey admin figure. No, he needs open arms, and needs to be patient and willing to listen, rather than just declaring your death sentence after your alleged stealing of a purse without ANY evidence against you.

1a - Admins enforcing NON-EXISTENT Rules.
"f**k! I stubbed my toe!"
You have been warned for cussing.
WHAT THE f**k!?

Woah buddy. What just happened was another example of ignorance. The rules DO NOT state ANYTHING about cursing. You are allowed to cuss.
"Hey, my f**king rock just f**king grew a f**king inch, isn't that f**kin' bad guyin'?"
Blah blah, minors are playing, I don't give a shit. They shouldn't be on the internet, let alone an M-Mature-rated game if they can't handle such strong language? They can't handle it? Too f**king bad. The admin can't make me tie my shoes if I don't want to. But he'll try, threatening me with a ban.

2. Cops enforcing non-existent laws
Now, the difference between the cops and admins in argonath is that you can actually, AND SUCCESSFULLY, attempt to prove them wrong without any bad guying from anyone. Nope, it's usually peace, with a few heated discussions. But srs. I'm allowed to ride my bike backwards if I land backwards. I'm going to break my back if I don't! Don't shoot me because I tried to save my own life! GAWD
Call me a moaner, ass kisser, hater, biased son of a bad guy, whatever the f**k you want, but I know it's truth. You're not denying it, I'm not denying it. Don't be another B-G-Aragorn-Homedawg. No, be yourself. No, not the dick inside many people, that you may or may not call yourself, the real self in you.

I may appear to be knitpicking, but in the long run, would you be better off f**king up with the same mistake while I praise you, or have me turn your ass around into gear and do shit right?

I know I can easily report the admins to the main admins that are doing this to me, but:
1. I refuse to reveal their names, to maintain their reputation.
2. Out of the kindness of my heart, I'm allowing them to leave admin duty when they are ready to.

This is not intended to be a flame topic, rather a discussion topic, for your points and views. DO NOT crudely criticize one's opinion. All you are succeeding in is showing how much of an ass a person can be.

kthnx

OBTW:

"Big deal, it's just a game", many of you might say.
Yes, it is a fucking game, but those people in the skins are real life people with real personalities, whether they be retarded, intellectual, hot, or ugly as fuck. They are human beings.

[Daco]

I think the admin team should be more strict and ban people instead or warning/kicking them, that way the community would be more strict, don't you think ?

[MisterSjeiks]

"Hey, my f**king rock just f**king grew a f**king inch, isn't that f**kin' bad guyin'?"

[Stanley_Taylor]

Good: i9
Bad: Cems

[Caltson]

Moan and Moan and moan... When you'll guys start having fun?

Lock this topic and go ingame 

[Unmountable]

Moan and Moan and moan... When you'll guys start having fun?

Lock this topic and go ingame 

Ryan, you deserve a +2 by posting this

[Nexxt]

Ryan, you deserve a +2 by posting this

To bad your box only contains +1 signs .

[Gandalf]

Read the rules.

**Rules on Argonath SA-MP RPG**

The rules or Argonath RPG are simple. All players are expected to do role-play. Deathmatching is strictly forbidden and will be punished by kick or ban.

For each skin there is a basic role, but players are free to use their imagination.
The idea is that we all live in a corrupt country, with a lot of criminals. However that does not mean that civilians are allowed to use their weapons at any time. If they are shot at, do what would happen in real life: panic and run. Only cops are allowed to shoot back , but even for cops there are limits.

- NO CHEATS, NO MODS, NO HACKS;
- NO HELIKILLING, NO CARKILLING, NO RAMMING, NO CARJACKING;
- NO GLITCHES, that give you advantage over other players (attacking from glitched areas);
- NO PAUSING WHEN COMBAT, WANTED;- NO REVENGE KILLING;
- NO FLOOD THE CHAT WINDOW;
- NO SPAM (advertisment of other servers and sites, that do not belong to Argonath RPG server is NOT allowed);
- NO FLAME/INSULT players. If you came to play on our server - respect it and our players;
- NO ATTACKING WITHOUT A PROPER REASON;
- NO ESCAPING WHEN SURRENDERED (follow cops to the police department);
- FOR ONE CHASE CRIMINAL CAN CHANGE ONLY 5 CARS. Fight or surrender;
- POLICE VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS;
- MILITARY VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR ARGONATH ARMY TEAM;
- NO MONEY CHEATING (punishment: permban);
- IMPOSTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (no any copying other players' nicks or regular clans' tags);
- SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY (swearing as personal attack on players will be punished);
- NICKS WITH THE UNREADABLE LETTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (Please refrain from using <>?/|\{}[]()-=+/*- due to the server's RPG script commands)

[Petar]

This is ... true.

SOME of the admins warn/kick/ban without ANY second thoughts/opinions.

As I remember in Argonath you have the freedom of spech. And if you say "that wasn't right" , "that's not fair" you get tempban/ban INSTANTLY!

+1 to the whole Topic

[Daco]

And maybe admins should extend the jail time period up to 2 or 3 hours, that way, the punishment would be good enough to learn from it, not just a couple of minutes, and I've seen it in other servers.

[Seskom]

Blah blah, minors are playing, I don't give a shit. They shouldn't be on the internet, let alone an M-Mature-rated game if they can't handle such strong language? They can't handle it? Too f**king bad. The admin can't make me tie my shoes if I don't want to. But he'll try, threatening me with a ban.

1. That is what you said... where is the maturity in swearing "OMG IM SO LEET I USED WORD FUCK", Mature peoples dont use words like fuck.

2.  What does aragorn have to do with this? He havent been active on froums for 1-2 months cause people like you.

3. Why do you shout about admins punishment on mainchat? use /pm to admin and have a calm chat dont blame him over mainchat.

[Pablo]

Good: i9
Bad: Cems

reversed.

[supermanmk]

Good: i9
Bad: Cems

since when are rule-breakers good?

[Daco]

since when are rule-breakers good?

Just stop attacking them already...

[JDC]

And maybe admins should extend the jail time period up to 2 or 3 hours, that way, the punishment would be good enough to learn from it, not just a couple of minutes, and I've seen it in other servers.

There was a time when /ajail was bugged, so we were unable to jail for normal time, but were able to jail for over 1,000,000,000 seconds (not advisable though, if player crashed then admin who jailed can be in deep shit ), which is equivalent to more than 30 years.

This is ... true.

SOME of the admins warn/kick/ban without ANY second thoughts/opinions.

As I remember in Argonath you have the freedom of spech. And if you say "that wasn't right" , "that's not fair" you get tempban/ban INSTANTLY!

+1 to the whole Topic

It's funny how the people who point fingers at the Admins, accusing us of shitty abuse, are all abject failures at following the rules. This topic is nothing but a useless moan intended to to throw BS at the Admin Team.

If you think you're so right, why don't you have the courage to say the names of those "abuser Admins" and provide concrete Evidence?

Dictatorship? Bullshit! On other Servers if you even bring up that topic and shit on Admins like you do here, you get banned instantly.

Or why don't we just ban all bullshit accusers and get on with our lives, the community will be a better place as a result. Less moaning and posts full of swamp gas!