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on: March 24, 2010, 08:33:58 pm
In line with the brief uncertainty in SA:MP scripting team, we have decided to post a joint statement highlighting our support for the community. As many of you may have heard, proposed changes are coming into effect to strengthen the pillars of the SA:MP administration team and in turn the SA:MP community. They will be announced officially in due course once all procurement stages have been completed.

In challenging times, it's important we are able to support the foundations of the SA:MP community express belief in one another. CBFasi has worked strenuously alongside the SA:MP scripting team in a bid to further our community in aim of attracting, retaining and recommending the Argonath community. We understand that the recent his activity may have been of concern, however we have moved to instil positivity and will to drive forward in aspiration of living the Argonath vision.

The comments in relations to INFERNO 9 [i9], GS9 and the wider community have been retracted by CBF as a result of further evaluation. It has also been decided on CBF’s own accord that he wishes to withdraw to a certain degree until he can engage with maximum efficiency. As a result, the SA:MP leaders will be supporting this request and accommodate any further changes should they arise where appropriate.

In summary, everything will stay the same – we will work together to bring positivity, trust and collaboration. We hope you will join and support us, while we continue our aspiration of living the Argonath vision.

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Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 08:34:06 pm
As many see I need to back off, with help from the SA:MP Leaders I will still work with them to bring the Argonath vision to light.  I will be putting a lot of trust in both Xcasio and Frank_Hawk to help and work with, in the bringing of this vision.  I trust them enough to say that if it was not for them I would not be back.  We aim for the best and that is what we try to deliver, in both scripts and the way we engage with others on the server. 

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Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 08:35:29 pm
We have worked to constructively resolve risks, issues and concerns that have been highlighted as part of a joint effort. CBF has my utmost trust as a partner in Argonath SA:MP and we will work together with a common vision. Driving forward, we now move to restore the momentum towards living the Argonath values and vision for the benefit of the extended community. 



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Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 08:38:05 pm
Good to hear that you are building on my point of improved communication, I hope it serves you well :)

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Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 08:48:47 pm
I've been away for some time, (reminds me of starting part of GTA:SA SP), what have I missed out on?!

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Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 08:59:44 pm
Great to hear :)

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Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 08:59:48 pm
Well said from the entire team. Moving Argonath forward is a vision that can be reached every day, but users need to understand that although it is a world of it's own, the people that make it so are doing their work for free for YOU, the users. They do it because they want to, and because they think it would be fun. They don't do it so you can moan, complain, *****, deathmatch, be greedy, or get script-dependent. The scripts were meant to EXPAND old-fashioned roleplay to ENHANCE your experience..., not for users to DEPEND on them and ONLY use them instead of actually roleplaying situations out. Something needs to change in the community, and hopefully this movement will help with that, but for now, we need to try and do what we can to solve these long-term issues.



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Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 09:02:52 pm
All should understand that Argonath is not just something you waste time on. It is a community with heart and soul that will stick together.
Many times our moderators, admins, managers, leaders an developers are stressed because no matter how hard they try, there is always someone who will fight them and tell that they are doing a bad job.

What we should remember is that we are all human, with everything that is included in it. That means that we make mistakes as much as we try to avoid them. It also means that we care for something, and for most of us that something, among other, is Argonath.

Everyone in the team wishes to make Argonath a fun place to play, to keep it free from the bad habits you see getting worse in the worls every day. Perhaps we will fail, but we will try together.

What the community should understand is that the freedom they find here, they will not find in any other gaming community. In most places any criticism on the owners results in a ban for life. Any use of hacks, or abuse will result in a ban for life. Anything outside kissing ass will result in a ban for life.

We give you freedom, in playing on the server as much as on the forums. All we set are simple rules, and the request to respect them and respect all others as human beings. If you can not handle that freedom, go find yourself a prison to sit in.

Do not abuse the freedom you have to stress out the developers, the scripters, the managers, the admins and the moderators. They are not paid, and they give up a lot of valuable time for everyone to be able to play here.

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Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 09:22:42 pm
Well spoken gandalf.

The /ad was created in order to give players a possibility to advertise.
As a result advertising in main chat is not permitted.
If you can't accept your actions in the past, then you can't accept your actions in the future
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Reply #9 on: March 24, 2010, 09:25:14 pm
All should understand that Argonath is not just something you waste time on. It is a community with heart and soul that will stick together.
Many times our moderators, admins, managers, leaders an developers are stressed because no matter how hard they try, there is always someone who will fight them and tell that they are doing a bad job.

What we should remember is that we are all human, with everything that is included in it. That means that we make mistakes as much as we try to avoid them. It also means that we care for something, and for most of us that something, among other, is Argonath.

Everyone in the team wishes to make Argonath a fun place to play, to keep it free from the bad habits you see getting worse in the worls every day. Perhaps we will fail, but we will try together.

What the community should understand is that the freedom they find here, they will not find in any other gaming community. In most places any criticism on the owners results in a ban for life. Any use of hacks, or abuse will result in a ban for life. Anything outside kissing ass will result in a ban for life.

We give you freedom, in playing on the server as much as on the forums. All we set are simple rules, and the request to respect them and respect all others as human beings. If you can not handle that freedom, go find yourself a prison to sit in.

Do not abuse the freedom you have to stress out the developers, the scripters, the managers, the admins and the moderators. They are not paid, and they give up a lot of valuable time for everyone to be able to play here.


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Reply #10 on: March 24, 2010, 09:36:54 pm
All should understand that Argonath is not just something you waste time on. It is a community with heart and soul that will stick together.
Many times our moderators, admins, managers, leaders an developers are stressed because no matter how hard they try, there is always someone who will fight them and tell that they are doing a bad job.

What we should remember is that we are all human, with everything that is included in it. That means that we make mistakes as much as we try to avoid them. It also means that we care for something, and for most of us that something, among other, is Argonath.

Everyone in the team wishes to make Argonath a fun place to play, to keep it free from the bad habits you see getting worse in the worls every day. Perhaps we will fail, but we will try together.

What the community should understand is that the freedom they find here, they will not find in any other gaming community. In most places any criticism on the owners results in a ban for life. Any use of hacks, or abuse will result in a ban for life. Anything outside kissing ass will result in a ban for life.

We give you freedom, in playing on the server as much as on the forums. All we set are simple rules, and the request to respect them and respect all others as human beings. If you can not handle that freedom, go find yourself a prison to sit in.

Do not abuse the freedom you have to stress out the developers, the scripters, the managers, the admins and the moderators. They are not paid, and they give up a lot of valuable time for everyone to be able to play here.


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Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 09:41:40 pm
What can we do when players moan about our hard-workers?
It is pretty ironic to see the hard-working helpers getting criticized by those who do not make any contributions to this community. As gandalf already mentioned above, respect each other if you want a better server to play on..


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Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 09:46:36 pm
What can we do when players moan about our hard-workers?
It is pretty ironic to see the hard-working helpers getting criticized by those who do not make any contributions to this community. As gandalf already mentioned above, respect each other if you want a better server to play on..

Well said. I sometimes get criticized for not spending time with some players' RP as I have to perform my administration duty to keep the server well maintained with the rest of the team. Sacrificing your RP for the administration to allow others to be protected while roleplaying is a good thing for me. As long as players are happy, I am.

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Reply #13 on: March 24, 2010, 09:47:26 pm
Indeed, well said all. I couldn't say it better!

I believe we should respect each other. Even if you don't like the person, you can still give him respect. It is human that you may not like someone, but that doesn't mean you can put him aside without respect. The person at the other side of the screen is a human being, just like you. Give him the respect you also like to receive. Look, talk and play with everyone on the forum as well in-game with respect. Think about the fact that they are also human beings before posting your comment.

Respect everyone and follow the Argonath vision.

I would like to mention this topic. Maybe everyone can read it again, fully.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0

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Reply #14 on: March 24, 2010, 09:47:49 pm
All should understand that Argonath is not just something you waste time on. It is a community with heart and soul that will stick together.
Many times our moderators, admins, managers, leaders an developers are stressed because no matter how hard they try, there is always someone who will fight them and tell that they are doing a bad job.

What we should remember is that we are all human, with everything that is included in it. That means that we make mistakes as much as we try to avoid them. It also means that we care for something, and for most of us that something, among other, is Argonath.

Everyone in the team wishes to make Argonath a fun place to play, to keep it free from the bad habits you see getting worse in the worls every day. Perhaps we will fail, but we will try together.

What the community should understand is that the freedom they find here, they will not find in any other gaming community. In most places any criticism on the owners results in a ban for life. Any use of hacks, or abuse will result in a ban for life. Anything outside kissing ass will result in a ban for life.

We give you freedom, in playing on the server as much as on the forums. All we set are simple rules, and the request to respect them and respect all others as human beings. If you can not handle that freedom, go find yourself a prison to sit in.

Do not abuse the freedom you have to stress out the developers, the scripters, the managers, the admins and the moderators. They are not paid, and they give up a lot of valuable time for everyone to be able to play here.

Well said, Nothing could have been said better.


And MIB, Respect is the main key of any community. People do not respect the actually work that goes into Argonath, and Freedoms get abused.
I respect every last person who has helped Argonath, Becuase quite frankly Argonath is the best Gaming community i have seen or been a part of.



 


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