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Offline HuskyTopic starter

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on: June 02, 2010, 02:13:27 pm
First of all Admins are not robots, are not your serves, and not your ATM.

Admins are on the server to protect players from hackers and rulebreakers and help new and old players, but in the first place they are players that means that we also like to Ropleplay, chase suspects, buy weapons, buy houses, cars etc. We are not on the server to do whatever the player wants us to do.

As reguards reports, admins are not forced to use /on, so if you dont see admins replying at your report that doesnt neccessary mean that the admin is not watching, also, when you report dont expect the reported player be immediately punished, we need proves, we CAN NOT kick without being sure the player is rulebreaking, we're also NOT forced to /warn /ban /kick, we can warn players in /PM and if you dont see the player kicked or warned that DOES NOT mean the admins are not interacting, so is futile PMing admins that they dont do their jobs...

And most of the admins don't always accept your "humor" as after a whole day attempting to play, and answering moanings the mood can get ruines, so it's also futile moan about admins not having humor..

Oh yeah there's also /setpm off /setphone off yeah that might be a solution but what if in those 20 moaning PMs there's one valid or urgent reason? should we ignore that? i dont think so, ignoring? might be a solution aswell, but is kinda hard ignoring a player requesting something, atleast for me, also admins have only 2 arms as far as I know and can't answer 20 PMs contemporary so there's no reason to PM admin saying hes not doing shit...

I also don't suggest provoking admins, because patience has its limits, and admins dont react all in the same way.
Admins are not scripters, so if you find a bug, instead of bugging admins with it or abusing it you should report if on the forums here nor bug scripters because they are not scripting live, and they can't remember all the bugs you remort them on PM nor they're going to script anything for you on request, so if you have a suggestion or you found a bug USE the forums.

Also remember that almost everything you do on the server is logged, and lieing to admins if futile because it will put you in a worst position and decrease the trust in you resulting of permanent bans.

Moderators as Admins get spammed aswell with silly requests and affermations that might not like to them as they dont have the access to most of admins commands.

Poking/provoking/testing/flaming admins may provoke several reactions, depends on the admin involved, but no moan is accetable, because it will be your own decision.
Ignoring Administration PMs may result of reaction, not reacting on warnings/kicks may result tempban, protesting after tempban may result as permanent ban.
Poking developers/managers might result of an istant ban, I dont suggest bugging developers/managers as might result of negative reaction, so if the developer is not answering your pm is not suggested to bug him in /p.
Oh yeah and our PM is not an unban section.

As you also may notice not every single rule is wrote on the official rules, this is because we expect players to be mature enough to understand that what they're doing is wrong, if not, we explain it to them, thers no reason to say that it wasnt in the rules, it's easy to think "oh its not on the rules so i can do it".

Moderators can't:

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  • Unban
  • Spawn money
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  • Give weapons
  • Set houses
  • Set businesses
  • Set you admin
  • Set time
  • Set weather
  • Payday
  • Taxday

Admins can't:

  • Unban
  • Spawn money
  • Spawn cars
  • Teleport cars
  • Give weapons
  • Set houses
  • Set businesses
  • Set you admin
  • Set time
  • Set weather
  • Payday
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Admins and Moderators are NOT supposed to refund you cause of any bugs, there can be one, but it depends on your attitude.
For all other commands possibilities as checking logs etc. you should contact managers, following the rules ofcourse.




Moderators/Admins/Developers is underestimated, we're working even if you think the we're not. So quit accusing us and/or the scripts because we put much effort in it. :<




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Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 02:16:36 pm
wow you actually put an effort writing this



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Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 02:25:03 pm
For a normal player it takes around 2 minutes to drive from Angel Pine to Los Santos, for an admin it takes over half an hour.


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Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 02:30:27 pm
For a normal player it takes around 2 minutes to drive from Angel Pine to Los Santos, for an admin it takes over half an hour.
true :D



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Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 02:31:23 pm
Well said Husky.

Hopefully the players will realize admins are normal human beings. They are here to have fun, not to get bitched at.



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Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 04:00:25 pm
This should get a Sticky,so that everyone could see it anytime they want.
I agree with this thing

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Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 04:13:52 pm
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
 and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.


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Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 04:31:50 pm
Couldn't agree more :)



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Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 04:39:13 pm
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?,


The admins are doing YOU a favour by VOLOUNTEERING to do this job. They make it so that YOU can enjoy your time on the server.

Be grateful they spend as much time as they do moderating everything going on on the server.

 They are just like you and me; They're here to have fun. BUT they're willing to do something for the server as a whole, not just sitting around bitching and moaning about this and about that.



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Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 04:56:32 pm
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
 and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
Just for your information Husky is one of the most reactive and helpful admins.
To see him reaching the limit means that we are probably having to become stricter in many things.

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Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 05:02:05 pm
Admins and moderators can't /loadskin or give special rewards either.

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Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 05:47:58 pm

The admins are doing YOU a favour by VOLOUNTEERING to do this job. They make it so that YOU can enjoy your time on the server.

Be grateful they spend as much time as they do moderating everything going on on the server.

 They are just like you and me; They're here to have fun. BUT they're willing to do something for the server as a whole, not just sitting around bad guying and moaning about this and about that.

Exactly, by volunteering it means he can quit being an admin whenever he wants to, it is NOT a job.
and for your information I am grateful for the admins work, but when an admin starts to criticize other people when they are in need help..then there is something wrong.

Just for your information Husky is one of the most reactive and helpful admins.
To see him reaching the limit means that we are probably having to become stricter in many things.
That is up to the admins to decide because me and all the other players have no idea how often you get provoked and spammed.


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Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 05:48:57 pm
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
 and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.

If you want to accuse someone , feel free to accuse me.
but leave husky alone, he's doing the best he can and in my opinion he's succeeding very well.

Whatever a admin does, its never good enough in some people their eyes. I would love to see you as a administrator so you might gain the knowledge that you underestimate the admin job. This isn't a moan topic that he can't handle it, its simply stating the facts.

I myself was VERY close on quitting administratorship. want a few reasons why I didn't?

- I like to help people, eventhough i get lots of moan.
- I like to do something for this community, since this community became my home

And the most important :

- I will NOT give in to those people who moan and say I should quit because they do not agree with my punishments simply because its not in their favour !

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"and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?"

Your kidding me right? Do you actually think we should do that? I can imagine the moan to get even worse !



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Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 06:06:46 pm
So, If i may.
What do i do then? I borrowed a guy named Quick_Calavario (Cant fully remember the last name) 20K.
Then he got banned for multiaccounting and moneyhacks on the other account.
And i know that 20K is not that much, But im not rich so for me it is much and i would like it back.
Who can help me with it or what do i need to do?



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Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010, 06:10:54 pm
I appreciate the effort husky put to write this, a big thank you.

I hope some people realize some of the things listed on the first post, and stop contacting us for the reasons that are listed, and even more.. the money requests.

I personally give refunds to everyone I do damage (if I do a command on him by mistake "wrong id") then I try to give refund... but for other situation where I have no proofs, I can not trust people's words and give refunds...

:ps: Refunds are from my own $$.

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