Admins

[Violet]

I would be lying if I didn't say I didn't enjoy and relish admin work in situations like the one Panda described. If it weren't for other circumstances both related to the server and real-life I most certainly would have took on the challenge of becoming an even better admin than I was last time round with a new and improved list of personal guidelines and objectives to ensure that I am not misunderstood by the server owners again. Thus getting myself to a position where I can be a server leader here and do my upmost to make sure that administrators are in the best possible position to improve the quality of the short time that people come on these forums or in-game by making the atmosphere complementary to the needs and wishes of the people that are in this community (i.e. make it a relaxing environment for those looking for a break, a fun way for all to past time when bored without adversely affecting the quality of gaming of others or to just engage others in learning something new everyday like I have for almost the last three years etc.)

From personal experience, I do recall people changing for the worse when they tried to adjust to work as an admin both on MTA:VC and SA:MP and ultimately, it would be things like that which must be avoided under all circumstances.

[Trobby888]

I'll try to re-state Luigi's point in a different way (Please note that I am not trying to introduce any new points). Basically, he is saying that admin work is completely voluntary. Players can choose to take the role or not. So if they find it too stressful and too frustrating then it is frivolous to moan and complain about it to players. This is because they can always resign from their roles, and play as a regular player instead. Luigi understands that admin work is stressful which is why he decides not to take the role. He prefers, however, that admin players who can't handle their work should do the same.

I can see the point you are trying to make, Luigi. However, the way you expressed it was rather unpolite and unclear. Clearly, after being temp-banned, people would easily misunderstand your points to being simple moaning. If you were aware of these things, then you should've realized that expression is very critical in this thread.

[JDC]

JDC - No, I just can't handle their constant f**king non-stop bitching about how hard their God damn job is, when all they have to do is contact the main admins and say "I quit."
And you have no right to judge my maturity, nor the right to speak period. I don't give a flying f**k how being an admin feels. I repeat, I do not give a flying f**k.

All of you complain (with a countable number of exceptions) of how hard, stressful, and time-constraining the administrator job. Well, I'm sick of it. I've shown enough restraint not letting loose on all of you God-damn whiners. I'm showing restraint right now by not particularly flaming (FYI, JDC).
Stop it. Seriously. No player gives a f**k about how hard your job is. Most players don't give a f**k about being an admin. And many players don't want to be an admin period.
Suck it up, guys. If you can't handle it, then I'll let Aragorn's words echo through my keyboard. "Just resign..."
It's as simple as 1-2-3. "HEY (INSERT NAME HERE), I QUIT BEING AN ADMIN! KTHNX!" But many of you find it easier to just bitch to me and all other players among me. When you do complain about it, you have no idea how much the fire builds up inside me, wanting to say "Shut the f**k up" to every single one of you whiners. Now, because I actually have some respect and know for a fact that saying that won't insult your admin self, but yourself as a whole, I don't say it.
I have no direct social problems with administrators that I know of. But I've plenty with their administrative behavior, particularly their bitching, or as many of you bandwagoners would say, "MOANING".
And I'll repeat once more.

Do you even KNOW how easier our job would be WITHOUT people like YOU who treat admins like robots and moan about us doing our job? Like, epicly easier!

That's some way to treat the people who put in a lot of voluntary work (YES, admins DO NOT get paid OR reimbursed with any cool perks, admin duty is not all fun and cakes) to help the other players in the community and make the server a better place. We help other players and the community because it is one of the ways we contribute to our server, not just for the lulz or the heck of it.
 
I stated what I stated about your maturity because nearly every single admin / mod has encountered immature moaners who scrutinize us when we are doing our jobs simply because we happened to warn, kick, temp-ban, or ban them in the process, and their actions were the result of sheer immaturity. Many others also go through the same punishments but at least they have the balls to see that they earned their punishments, apologize for their outbursts, and life goes on.

I know that admin duty can be stressful and that it's our choice to resign, but our job would be a lot easier if people like you stopped moaning... I can easily handle day-to-day admin work and routines, along with all the routine flames that come with it, but what really pisses me off is people like you going on the forums and treating admins this way... we are players who also serve as peacemakers, helpers and protectors, not people who are supposed to do every single thing you want at the expense of enforcing the rules.

I'm sorry for the outburst but I just had to post it.

Yea but I got taken down directly from Level 4 to kicked altogether, with no chance of recovering the level of admin again.

You still were a good admin in some ways, not just anyone can get to Level 4.

[Eric_Dereno]

Do you even KNOW how easier our job would be WITHOUT people like YOU who treat admins like robots and moan about us doing our job? Like, epicly easier!

That's some way to treat the people who put in a lot of voluntary work (YES, admins DO NOT get paid OR reimbursed with any cool perks, admin duty is not all fun and cakes) to help the other players in the community and make the server a better place. We help other players and the community because it is one of the ways we contribute to our server, not just for the lulz or the heck of it.
 
I stated what I stated about your maturity because nearly every single admin / mod has encountered immature moaners who scrutinize us when we are doing our jobs simply because we happened to warn, kick, temp-ban, or ban them in the process, and their actions were the result of sheer immaturity. Many others also go through the same punishments but at least they have the balls to see that they earned their punishments, apologize for their outbursts, and life goes on.

I know that admin duty can be stressful and that it's our choice to resign, but our job would be a lot easier if people like you stopped moaning... I can easily handle day-to-day admin work and routines, along with all the routine flames that come with it, but what really pisses me off is people like you going on the forums and treating admins this way... we are players who also serve as peacemakers, helpers and protectors, not people who are supposed to do every single thing you want at the expense of enforcing the rules.

I'm sorry for the outburst but I just had to post it.

I'm not an admins, but i agree. Imagne howmuch /report's must come in, And if they are bussy with others they can't look at yours. And that is why i want to apologize to Hwaldar_Richards. Sorry for my burst out, I get it that you couldn't look at my /report but i was a litlle edgy that day
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Back to the subject!

[EliteTerm]

Listen here. You administrators must enjoy kicking, warning, or even banning us for "moaning". You better do yourself a favor and quit right now, because you're just as bad.
All of you complain (with a countable number of exceptions) of how hard, stressful, and time-constraining the administrator job. Well, I'm sick of it. I've shown enough restraint not letting loose on all of you God-damn whiners. I'm showing restraint right now by not particularly flaming (FYI, JDC).
Stop it. Seriously. No player gives a f**k about how hard your job is. Most players don't give a f**k about being an admin. And many players don't want to be an admin period.

If you don't give a f**k about admins, then how about we remove all admins for the weekend (busy) on the server, 150 players with moaners, deathmatchers, and hackers interfering everyone's RP, including yours? We'll get some R&R while you suffer, eh?

It is our job to watch every player, solve every situation, and deal with every rulebreakers on a daily basis. Sure, it gets stressful once in a while, but remember this: We volunteer our spare time, our RP, to make sure you guys enjoy whatever RP you wanted to do. Don't bad guy about that.

 :ps: I wonder what CBFasi/ Aragorn has to say about your statement, Luigi, considering what they have went through?

[Gandalf]

I always enjoy kicking and tempbanning people who are used to talk back after every punishment. If they decide not to be unbanned, it makes the server more enjoyable.

[rJCaiG]

You moaners are sooo sad. You don't understand how much effort, time and patience admins use to keep the server rulebreak free, yet you always throw it back into their face with this kind of shit as displayed by Luigi....
Sad, sad people.

[Eric_Dereno]

Just apriciate what they are doing for you and if you don't like it find something else to do. If you want to moan, do it at home infront of a mirror.

[Emre]

Moderators/Admins/Managers don't only take Decisions in Bans,kicks,Whatever,They also Help Players,what you do never Mention.The only stuff i hear " Ahaha you kick people without reason blablabla" ,but you shouldnt forget,that possibly one of them has once introduced you the server,Their work should really Be Appreciated,that's Simple

[Fabio]

If you don't give a f**k about admins, then how about we remove all admins for the weekend (busy) on the server, 150 players with moaners, deathmatchers, and hackers interfering everyone's RP, including yours? We'll get some R&R while you suffer, eh?

Exactly just as I said, the admins should go on a strike for a day or a weekend from the server and then players will learn that they should appricate the work admins do for them and the server rather then moan all the time. They wouldn't last long before pleading to bring the admins back.

[Dutchy]

An important thing to maintain having fun on Argonath is stying calm..
Admins can and must stay calm in every situation, but since they are only humans, their patience can run out.. They can get upset and frustrated.
Are you abe to stay calm and friendly when your PM inbox is flowing in like tetris level 40? It's really annoying..
Husky for fun once did an ad saying ''If you want 10K /pm ID *my ID*'' ... I almost fainted.. I think Chuck posted a screen once of his PM spam, do you still have that pic, Chuck?

[battle]

I've also gotten my load of moan at times but what do i care? The moderators/admins etc etc are here to help you guys to stop rulebreakers from rulebreaking and making the server better for the rest, the moaners who are around should just mind thier own and moan into a cabinet or something instead of doing it on the server everyone else's best


Respond to dutchys post.
EDIT: I tend to stay calm the most of the times, if i do get frustrated i log off and calm my self abit down again, also about the chat yes it does sometimes go with tetris level 60+ witch means we can't see everything becuse the chat goes past with rocket speed, expecially if you have /pm /P /L phone /cb /r /a and admin messeages going past try imagine if there is activty in all of them

[rJCaiG]

Am I the only one who was accepting of (or indeed, good at intentionally ignoring) the flame I got as admin? I didn't feel stressed out by that at all, I just looked down my nose at them and moved on.
When I was the only admin on for 110 players once, and I physically did not stop typing for about 3 minutes in one go, that was the best ever.

Man, I liked being admin. But like anything I think I'm good at in my life, apparently I sucked at it and I wasn't good enough. Life lesson learnt I guess - don't try and you can't fail..

This post expresses my thoughts on this issue so amazingly well that I am beginning to question why we ever fought, Panda
I loved being the only admin for 100 people, answering every PM, responding to every report, banning every hacker, multi accounter and ban evader, a lot of the time while I still did cop work...
Gives you amazing self satisfaction when you can juggle all that at once and still keep your cool.

[Dutchy]

Giac for Manager!

[Jimmy_Bowling]

Giac for Manager!

When did this topic become about voting? I understood it is to specify what administration ranks can do and to what rank you should talk to for different situations.