Samp Admin Applications

[Aragorn]

Well, in my own opinion, admin should handle properly the server he is admin on... And I agree that the best way - to be an admin on one server...

But we have another issue... While being admin on one server (sa:mp) and player wants to play on other server (IV:mp) he comes, he is not an admin there... Mostly what people will start - minimum to troll him...

Here comes that player just gets confused with his own status on Argonath... Either he is an admin on Argonath or he is a player...

Some can handle this difference, others - not... And I can understand them as well...

[rJCaiG]

Good luck everybody, I'm looking forward to seeing some fresh meat around.
As for now Giac is holding the record of the fastest response to /report with 0,5 seconds. Beat it

Not gonna be beaten

Well, in my own opinion, admin should handle properly the server he is admin on... And I agree that the best way - to be an admin on one server...

But we have another issue... While being admin on one server (sa:mp) and player wants to play on other server (IV:mp) he comes, he is not an admin there... Mostly what people will start - minimum to troll him...

Here comes that player just gets confused with his own status on Argonath... Either he is an admin on Argonath or he is a player...

Some can handle this difference, others - not... And I can understand them as well...

If you are admin on SAMP, most people from other servers will know who you are and will have respect for you and will not shit on you in other Argonath servers...but sometimes those who are admins in other Argo servers don't get the recognition and respect in SAMP as not as many people know him and how he works...This does lead to what you mentioned above - the feeling of whether or not he is part of admin team..
My opinion - yes..admin on one Argonath server and you should be respected and treated as an admin on all servers...That is the treatment I get anyway

[TheRock]

Recently I've been asked for something regarding the SA-MP Admin Team, but a member of the stunt team administration.. he told me "come on, I'm an admin also", yes i don't deny the fact. I deny the thing that you wish to know information (and classified one) for another team of SA-MP Server. (RPG Administration). We're a community I know, but sometimes guys.. some info are just not to be spreaded out.

Not gonna be beaten

I've done better than that :P.

[iDavid]

Not gonna be beaten
If you are admin on SAMP, most people from other servers will know who you are and will have respect for you and will not shit on you in other Argonath servers...but sometimes those who are admins in other Argo servers don't get the recognition and respect in SAMP as not as many people know him and how he works...This does lead to what you mentioned above - the feeling of whether or not he is part of admin team..
My opinion - yes..admin on one Argonath server and you should be respected and treated as an admin on all servers...That is the treatment I get anyway

Well, as you say SA:MP admins are as admins everywhere, such as me (whilst I'm kinda new to the A-Team in Argonath) is not that much recognized for it in other servers then IV:MP (I think :razz: )

For the thing "You shouldn't be able to be admin on two servers.." - Imo, this is just bullshit. They might have a point where it has a lack of time. But that is up to the chosen, that to mix it up is great. And when it comes to mixing like... Being a Paruni admin & then a SA:MP admin here... It's all about mixing for the right times, even though I experienced that Paruni admins that get admin here has a lack of activity back there.

It's all about what the exact player can do with the amount of time he has in the day, me for example think I can mix it up well and be a good admin on both servers, with alot of playing time.

-iD.

[Julio.]

A lot of the time, on developing servers, only the admins are on. If they become an admin on a more popular server, what do you think they're gonna do?

The one which needs them will be ignored while they have fun on the popular one.

[Julio.]

I don't think so.. Moderators, admins and managers on other servers should get an equal hance just like the other applicants if they are active enough and if they have enough experience. So basically you're saying that (for example) Tai should get removed from the SA:MP admin team because he is a IV:MP manager? Also, these servers are less populated then SA:MP..

Written on my iPod Touch, sorry for grammar mistakes.

the less popular server will inevitably end up with less attention

read Aragorns post

[iDavid]

A lot of the time, on developing servers, only the admins are on. If they become an admin on a more popular server, what do you think they're gonna do?

The one which needs them will be ignored while they have fun on the popular one.

That's your opinion, but infact... Being admin on a big and popular server is alot stress, so the small one might be favourited because you can chill out more

[smey]

I don't care who gets accepted, as long as he (she) has a decent English skill.

[Hidduh]

the less popular server will inevitably end up with less attention

read Aragorns post

Depends, happens not all the time..

[Romeo]

Well, in my own opinion, admin should handle properly the server he is admin on... And I agree that the best way - to be an admin on one server...

But we have another issue... While being admin on one server (sa:mp) and player wants to play on other server (IV:mp) he comes, he is not an admin there... Mostly what people will start - minimum to troll him...

Here comes that player just gets confused with his own status on Argonath... Either he is an admin on Argonath or he is a player...

Some can handle this difference, others - not... And I can understand them as well...

Admins shouldn't think that just because they are adminstrators they should be treated any different. My belief is that admins are there to help the server, not to try and control it. Some admins think that because they are an admin on say... SA:MP stunt, they should be treated higher than a Regular on SA:MP RP Argo. It's a sort of stigma I guess.

[Gird3r]

I don't care who gets accepted, as long as he (she) has a decent English skill.

Not everyone can type perfect english, I can't ethier.

"You don't care". So Argonath RPG should accept someone who has been playing for one day? Or maybe accept someone who's an regular hacker?
Oh wait let's accept S***er (I filtered the name myself since I wanna puke anytime I hear his name, better to let his complete name be forgotten) if he would apply.

I'm sorry to be harsh, but you need to think twice sometimes about what you say (as I learned for en certain topic not long ago).

[Gird3r]

Admins shouldn' think that just because they are adminstrators they should be treated any different. My belief is that admins are there to help the server, not to try and control it. Some admins think that because they are an admin on say... SA:MP stunt, they should be treated higher than a Regular on SA:MP RP Argo. It's a sort of stigma I guess.

I think you missunderstood his post an little.
Also, they are somewhat there to control it. But that could be seen in different ways. If they did not "control" it (according the the official rules, sorry that does not include OOC IC and such dumb things) then people would be breaking the official rules more often. THat does not also mean admins can sit higher then players and invent his own rules and views (also on views in an limited way. One admin could punish an player while the other admin tought that the player did not need an punishment).

Oh by the way, when admins work in an team, sometimes there is what I would call the grey zone. This means what I said above, ie one admin wants to punish while the other does not feel it was neccessary.

It's not hard to be an admin if you follow the official rules.  :rules:
Be fair, if you got an buddy who has reported something he should not get priority before an another players report unless it's an report on an hacker (Or any other extremly urgent matter).

This is something people will learn when they apply for admin and becomes an moderator. Hopefully, most of them will pass and stand true to the Original Argonath vision.

Playername1: Report on an deathmatcher
Buddy/friend/gangmember/Clanmember: Report on an deathmatcher

IF you are an true admin you will pick Playername1's report first since he was first on the line to report (if there's some sort line system for sa:Mp, in mat:vc reports was said in mainchat or Personal message to an admin).

I'd also expect yourself to defend. Really, if someone is hitting you with fists, just report and then keep blocking the attacks. No need to go "OMFG DMINGER ANSWER MY REPORT U NOOB ADMIN". And if the report has not been investigated in atleast 30 seconds to 1 minute or more, then you might fight back or run. (But i'd rather run first after reporting).

IF it's an gun user, give an minium of 30 seconds and run meanwhile. If the dminger follows. Only then you might fight back.

As for last word on my this reply, I'd said Admins is not robots. Remember that.

[Julio.]

That's your opinion, but infact... Being admin on a big and popular server is alot stress, so the small one might be favourited because you can chill out more

You guys may say you can split your time between the servers.

BUT

*Aragorn recruits 10 moderators

*All 10 are also moderators somewhere else

*Each moderator effectively works half the time on the server

*Effectively meaning 5 moderators have been recruited


Moderators are there to help the server, if they are helping out more than one server, then they CANNOT DO AS MUCH, this is undeniable logic.

You can't say you'll work doubly as hard either, because if you worked doubly as hard for the full time on one server then you'd get more done also.

You should choose which server you want to help.

[smey]

Not everyone can type perfect english, I can't ethier.

Wait, since when is decent = perfect?

"You don't care". So Argonath RPG should accept someone who has been playing for one day? Or maybe accept someone who's an regular hacker?
Oh wait let's accept S***er (I filtered the name myself since I wanna puke anytime I hear his name, better to let his complete name be forgotten) if he would apply.

With "I don't care" I mean: I trust in the vision of server owners or whoever picks the new admins. I won't go bothering discussing who should or who shouldn't become an admin, since it's not my call.

I'm sorry to be harsh, but you need to think twice sometimes about what you say (as I learned for en certain topic not long ago).

Same applies to you!

[Gird3r]

Wait, since when is decent = perfect?

With "I don't care" I mean: I trust in the vision of server owners or whoever picks the new admins. I won't go bothering discussing who should or who shouldn't become an admin, since it's not my call.

Same applies to you!

Good explonations, I accept that. kinda drunk now so yhe, anyways. Good explonations.