I SURRENDER. Or do I?

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Scenario:

Your on the run after just robbed Red County Farm.
Farmer Curse is running after you, although not realising he was robbed he still is shooting at your ass.
Farmer Curse gets bored and goes to passport test people.
Now you are there, with an orange name, because you killed someone a few minutes earlier.
You are suddenly surrounded by cops!
You have no choice but to do /hail, because you're low on ammo/have too much.
You decide to be devious criminal and lie.
Cops come to cuff you, you kick him in the face and grab his civilian buffalo and drive off.

WOAH, stop, you surrendered. Or did you?

Can someone explain?

I use /hail to surrender sometimes.
Because useing /hail animation obviously shows you surrender, also as cops usually do "/me cuffs" and I'm powerless to do anything because cuffed.

But, why cant devious criminals pretend to surrender to save there ass?

Sure, example: Mr.BoBo  does /hail, he goes to LSPD for an investigation, he finds his investigation is denied. He escapes, that's obviously retarded and abusive.

[JayL]

I believe that if one says ''I surrender'' and does /hail, then they are bound to follow the cops' orders. After all, the rule says not to escape after surrendering.

[Gregersen]

What is the exact point of this topic?
I only see moan here

[[NP]Monte Montague]

I only see moan here

And you're a Moderator of this forum.

It's not moan for your information.

[JayL]

What is the exact point of this topic?
I only see moan here

The point of this topic is to clear whether one is allowed to escape after claiming to have surrendered (not /gu) or not. It's called a question, not moaning.

[Gregersen]

If you have /hail'ed and cop HAVEN'T done /me cuffs suspect, you can RUN!
IF you hailed, and the cop did /me cuffs suspect, you HAVE to give up as that is a sign of you giving up.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

If you have /hail'ed and cop HAVEN'T done /me cuffs suspect, you can RUN!
IF you hailed, and the cop did /me cuffs suspect, you HAVE to give up as that is a sign of you giving up.

What if a friend comes along, pretends he's going to kidnap you, takes you away and shoots the cuffs off? 


And what about when you do /gu and no cops come for you? You're left there frozen. Mostly if not all of the times you'd want an unsuspecting because you'd rather be role-playing something else.

[Gregersen]

What if a friend comes along, pretends he's going to kidnap you, takes you away and shoots the cuffs off? 

Then most likely, he will be suspected.. "/su ID 207" .. = Kidnapping happens, both suspects will be taken down, using lethal force

[Jamal]

What is the exact point of this topic?
I only see moan here

Where does the attitude of some come from, where asking something about a situation, is immediately moan?

I think the cops should be smart and do what their told to - if they suspect has not /gu 'd, apply force (unless running, use pepper spray or batton only) until suspect is subdued or cooperates with /gu.

[Cofiliano]

If you /gu'd you can't run. If you did anything else except that, you can. Simple.

[Mikro]

If you /gu'd you can't run. If you did anything else except that, you can. Simple.

But /gu itself is not a rule as suspects are allowed to surrender without /gu, and are bound to the same restrictions once doing so (not allowed to open fire or run).
But remember that anything you say can and will be used aganst you, and not only in court.

[Cofiliano]

Its called tactics and common sense. Its like when FBI is negotiating with suspects who kidnapped someone, and FBI "agrees" on paying 50,000$ to the kidnappers, as part of their "buy time" tactics. So every time you guys say /L We'll pay the 50k, you're obligated to do it, no mater did  you  /send id 50k or not.

Same criteria.

[Jimmy_Bowling]

Sorry But I am in the process of warning all of the ARPD members of this and I believe we have a policy instituted that means Until you /gu you are known as a unsurrendered suspect. I really dont give 2 shits if your hands are in the air cause I have been in the scenario where he does /hail and when I am typing /me cuffs the man I get combatted to death!!!

It is not right any officer should not approach or lower their weapon until a suspect /gu's

[SafetyMoose]

Sorry But I am in the process of warning all of the ARPD members of this and I believe we have a policy instituted that means Until you /gu you are known as a unsurrendered suspect. I really dont give 2 shits if your hands are in the air cause I have been in the scenario where he does /hail and when I am typing /me cuffs the man I get combatted to death!!!

It is not right any officer should not approach or lower their weapon until a suspect /gu's

Im pretty sure Gandalf made the rule that if you do /hail an say oyu give up, then it counts as surrendering

[Boozman]

Im pretty sure Gandalf made the rule that if you do /hail an say oyu give up, then it counts as surrendering

I recall the same thing, Moose. I have been told to report to administration if it happens.