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Whats wrong with the sun?

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Offline NorrageTopic starter

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on: October 25, 2010, 08:22:37 pm
The sun is being really boring. Nearly 18 months after the "official" start of Solar Cycle 24, observers are looking closely at the ball of hot plasma in the sky asking, "What is wrong with the sun?"

To be honest, we don't know if there's something wrong or not; it depends on what your opinion of "wrong" is.

On the one hand, the sun is enduring the deepest solar minimum for a century, perplexing solar physicists, leading to some suggestions the sun may continue its blank stare for some time to come.

As sunspot number is astonishingly low, this means internal magnetic activity must also be low. For some reason, the usual cycle of 11 years from peak to trough -- from solar maximum to solar minimum -- has been interrupted. The fireworks we experienced in 2003 could be a thing of the past and we might be looking at another Maunder Minimum (an extended period of time from 1645 to 1715 when few sunspots were seen by astronomers).

As magnetic activity is low, this also means there has been a drop in solar energy output. There has been a 0.02 percent decrease in optical light and a 6 percent drop in ultraviolet light if we compare this solar minimum with the last one, 12 years ago. Although we're not going to freeze any time soon, the suns reduction in output could have consequences for our climate. But no, it won't save us from carbon-induced global warming, that problem is here to stay.


The sun is enduring the quietest solar minimum for over a century.
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Not so boring

Although there is a possibility this solar minimum may continue, it is just as likely the sun is just being lazy, waiting to surprise us with a stealthy explosion of magnetic fury.

The sun could erupt with a rash of sunspots as the internal magnetic field becomes so stressed it rises through the solar photosphere, tearing apart the uppermost layers of hot plasma, creating dark patches of sunspot swarms. If this is the case, we can expect violent knots of magnetism to funnel multi-million degree plasma from the inner sun, high into the corona (the sun's atmosphere), creating arcades of bright coronal loops.

When this happens, the scene is set for the biggest explosions in our Solar System: flares and coronal mass ejections -- both of which can be very bad for planet Earth.

As global society becomes more advanced, we depend more and more on communications satellites. If we end up staring down the barrel of a solar flare, we could be hit by a CME bubble, sandblasting our atmosphere with solar ions. The delicate circuits onboard critical global positioning satellites (GPS) could be rendered useless, and the upper atmosphere may expand as it is heated, increasing the drag on orbiting satellites, causing them to crash and burn.

Even though sun-Earth interactions can be pretty (generating huge light shows known as aurorae at high latitudes), solar storms are generally very bad news for technology (and for humans) in space.

Global damage

Even on the ground we may not be safe. A vast amount of energy is dumped into our atmosphere, possibly overloading our national electrical grids. This could be very costly. Add the chaos of the loss of satellites and we could be looking at a huge mess and an even larger clean-up bill.

According to a recent estimate by an NOAA scientist, the next solar storm could inflict $2 trillion-worth of damage. Also, such a huge blast from the sun could take the world 10 years to recover... just in time for the next solar maximum to smack us again!
But wait a minute, why are we freaking out about being battered and bruised by the sun when it's currently acting like the perfect neighbor? It's being quiet, unassuming and shy; few sunspots, little solar activity and certainly no Earth-shattering solar flares. Why are we suddenly getting so worried?

Solar mysteries

The sun, in many ways, is still a mystery. As national infrastructures are becoming more susceptible to space weather, we get concerned for our growing fleet of critical satellites and huge electrical grids. The last thing we need is a sun with an unpredictable temper. If the sun gets angry, flinging CMEs in our direction, our current economic woes will be a cakewalk in comparison.
Although the sun has a periodic and predictable cycle, it still holds many surprises. For all we know it could continue to be "boring", sending solar astronomers asleep at their 'scopes for years to come. On the other hand, a rash of sunspots could appear very soon, revealing that we are in for a very rough ride.

However, if I had to place a bet, I would say there are better odds of a mediocre solar maximum. I doubt we'll be cooked or frozen by the sun; we just have to wait and see, without getting all dramatic.



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Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 12:57:58 am
Twenty - Argonath's Astrophysics fan?

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Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 09:55:01 am
What the fuck?

http://argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46601.0
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DONT PRESSURE ME IM RETARED
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Reply #3 on: October 26, 2010, 03:58:25 pm
Twenty - Argonath's Astrophysics fan?

Is it bad?

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Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 04:43:03 pm
It's the apocalypse. The Winchester brothers caused it.. Its all cos of Lucifer rising.



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Reply #5 on: October 26, 2010, 04:54:30 pm
Looks like copy-pasta.



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Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 04:58:41 pm
Lets see... there was a similar even 300 years ago, that lasted 60 years.
If measurements regarding electro-magnetic data from the end of that period did not show anything unusual, chances are nothing unusual will be this time. A few sattellites may fail (see ya later US players) but can be replaced.
The second thing that was included the is the carbon-induced global warming that still has to be proven to be happening as man-made.

Science is starting to become like religion... present a possible doom scenario, let the people fear for events that could happen, and get money from them for more research.

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Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 05:30:51 pm
Seeing as I'm a Geography student...I can say that from my knowledge of atmospheric absorbtion and global rotation...this won't affect the entire world. The areas affected will be small, and probably not densely inhabited...if not un-inhabited.

The second thing that was included the is the carbon-induced global warming that still has to be proven to be happening as man-made.

Exactly. Global warming cannot be justified seeing as we have had some of the coldest winters in decades quite recently, climate change can be explained, but not global warming on it's own. As for it being something caused by man...that seems to be the easy answer to everything, which in simple terms means that no-one really has a clue what is causing it.



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Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 06:48:33 pm
Science is starting to become like religion... present a possible doom scenario, let the people fear for events that could happen, and get money from them for more research.
Scientists, do not have any agendas behind them. They do not do science for the sake of money. I would really feel sorry for the person who does science for the sake of money, as that's just sad. Beside that, scientist also tell how the world works, rather than is it good or bad.

Is it bad?
No. Not at all, but understand that there aren't a lot of us in here, who share your enthusiasm in that particular field.

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Reply #9 on: October 27, 2010, 12:23:48 am
Can you put all that into a humorous picture or so, I am unable to read those paragraphs.


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Reply #10 on: October 27, 2010, 01:16:54 am
Can you put all that into a humorous picture or so, I am unable to read those paragraphs.
Sun seems to be a lazy-ass dude and not taking regular showers. Scientist believe that one day sun will take a really long shower, that will cost earth a lot of money.

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Reply #11 on: October 27, 2010, 07:05:58 pm
lol @ twenty copypastaing to look smart



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Reply #12 on: October 27, 2010, 07:09:33 pm
Looks like copy-pasta.
Ofcourse did i copy pasta it, do you think i am going to typ, while english is not my language? Lol

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Reply #13 on: October 27, 2010, 07:40:38 pm
Ofcourse did i copy pasta it, do you think i am going to typ, while english is not my language? Lol

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Reply #14 on: October 28, 2010, 02:28:43 am
Ofcourse did i copy pasta it, do you think i am going to typ, while english is not my language? Lol
I've even taught some people in here some physics even though English is not my native language as well.

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



 


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