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Useless /report command or useless admins?

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on: October 27, 2010, 11:05:26 pm
Just wanted to say a few things.
Many times when i got DM'ed, carjacked, false-acused, I reported. I didn't moan on main chat, I report. As admins and rules tell me to do.
Now, I dont remember recently, that I reported and something was done about the rule-brake I witnessed.
In fact, in my opinion the /report command is totaly useless unless there is a nice admin who will ACTUALY HELP to the simple players.
And its not like they are busy. Many times I reported, admins didn't do a thing, and I see them talking bullshit and laughing it up while just standing in 1 place jumping around.
Now i'll say this in simple language:
Admins, EITHER YOU START TAKING CARE OF THE PLAYERS YOUR "ADMINISTRATING" AND "MODERATING" EITHER QUIT YOUR DUTY AND GO HOME.\

this aint a discussion so,
thank you and good night.

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Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 11:08:41 pm
Quite simple actually. We did not see the event happen, we did not witness it and we may get to the report late and just see a player driving around.
We cannot act on something we did not see with our own eyes....



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Reply #2 on: October 27, 2010, 11:12:53 pm
1. Why the hell do people keep making these (moan) threads in SA:MP general?
2. Give the admins some time to respond, they are getting flooded with reports and alerts in chat.
3. Patience, my dear, patience.



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Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 11:13:54 pm
Quite simple actually. We did not see the event happen, we did not witness it and we may get to the report late and just see a player driving around.
We cannot act on something we did not see with our own eyes....
http://www.iqtest.com/

after people begun gaining rights (end of 18th century) a simple thing came up, called investigation.



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Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 11:14:57 pm
1. Why the hell do people keep making these (moan) threads in SA:MP general?
2. Give the admins some time to respond, they are getting flooded with reports and alerts in chat.
3. Patience, my dear, patience.

Many times I reported, admins didn't do a thing, and I see them talking bullshit and laughing it up while just standing in 1 place jumping around.



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Reply #5 on: October 27, 2010, 11:15:30 pm
after people begun gaining rights (end of 18th century) a simple thing came up, called investigation.
Please explain to me, how should we investigate?


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Reply #6 on: October 27, 2010, 11:16:03 pm
Dave is correct. Consider it an "innocent until proven guilty" kind of thing.



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Reply #7 on: October 27, 2010, 11:17:38 pm
And its not like they are busy. Many times I reported, admins didn't do a thing, and I see them talking bullshit and laughing it up while just standing in 1 place jumping around.

Ahem.. :)

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Reply #8 on: October 27, 2010, 11:19:23 pm
Please explain to me, how should we investigate?

great admin, called bluefox, once invesigated me, and the guy who dMed me. also, 2 witnesses were there and eventualy the guy who DMed got banned.

Leon, admins job is to see if they are guilty or not.



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Reply #9 on: October 27, 2010, 11:21:36 pm
That might have happend Murdock, but from my side, something i've learnd is to never trust anyone in a situation. Simply because most likely, someone of them will twist the history of what happend to their favour.

Consider it an "innocent until proven guilty" kind of thing.
That is correct. If we didn't see it, we can't give out punishments, for the reason what i posted above.


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Reply #10 on: October 27, 2010, 11:24:32 pm
great admin, called bluefox, once invesigated me, and the guy who dMed me. also, 2 witnesses were there and eventualy the guy who DMed got banned.

Leon, admins job is to see if they are guilty or not.

Our job is to uphold the rules of the server and visions of the community, not to spend half an hour deciding whether player A punched player B because player B said "i hate cops".



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Reply #11 on: October 27, 2010, 11:24:54 pm
Leon, admins job is to see if they are guilty or not.
That's really their choice. Their job is to see if any rulebreaks are occurring at the time. It's totally up to the admin to actually go deeper into the situation to see what the fuck happened, however, most do not have that kind of time. They have to divide their attention before ADMINS PLZ READ REPORT comes along. Even if they do go deeper into the situation, they can't use admin commands unless they literally saw what happened. The most they can do is tell them not to do it again...



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Reply #12 on: October 27, 2010, 11:27:07 pm
That's really their choice. Their job is to see if any rulebreaks are occurring at the time. It's totally up to the admin to actually go deeper into the situation to see what the f**k happened, however, most do not have that kind of time. They have to divide their attention before ADMINS PLZ READ REPORT comes along. Even if they do go deeper into the situation, they can't use admin commands unless they literally saw what happened. The most they can do is tell them not to do it again...

Exactly. Believe it or not, most admin punishment and action goes unseen by the entirety of the server.



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Reply #13 on: October 27, 2010, 11:32:10 pm
great admin, called bluefox, once invesigated me, and the guy who dMed me. also, 2 witnesses were there and eventualy the guy who DMed got banned.

thought bluefox takes actions first then investigates...

@Murdock: its not that admins dont want to investigate, its that sometimes when they see certain reports they choose to ignore as they dont know the rules what is wrong and right in that situation. i've seen admins making up rules and when we refer to them what was said in forum they simply say "Do not argue with me, enough"...

Some are just less informed, no offense



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Reply #14 on: October 27, 2010, 11:38:56 pm
Useless topic or useless complainer?

To be honest, anyone who opens up another "useless" topic, is quite "useless" for our community.






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