High School - 1957 vs 2010

[Chase]

Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers. 
 
 
Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2010 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

 
Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2010 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD.
 
 
Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist. 

 
Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school..
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with a school buddy that has a headache also.
2010 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons. 
 
 
Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2010 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher.  English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English. 
 
 
Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2010 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again. 
 
 
Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison.  Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


Sadly, this shows how a lot of our systems are fucked up today.

[Fuzzy]

So true man....its kinda crazy to think how much world changes in 50 years

[Jimmylicious]

This is kinda strange what time did to the world and our generation. Everyone for them selfs, no love left for feelings and all that kinda stuff.

[Jubin]

Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers. 

In Estonia nobody would even care if the student would have a gun in his car when on school.

 
Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2010 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

 

in here, still the 1957 scenario applies, although mostly teacher finds out before any bigger damage are done anyway.

Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2010 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD.

Once again 1957 scenario.
 

Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist. 

Well most cases it is still 1957 scenario, although it is getting worse in here too.

Also:
Russell Peters - Beating Your Children
 

Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school..
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with a school buddy that has a headache also.
2010 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons. 

Once again 1957 scenario.
 

Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2010 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher.  English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English. 

More likely Pedro would fail even summer school but are given enough credit just to pass to another grade. Otherwise still 1957.

Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2010 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again. 

1957
 
 

Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison.  Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


Sadly, this shows how a lot of our systems are f**ked up today.

Teacher would say to Johnny to get up and stop crying.

So welcome to back in time.

[tiderman]

Yeah, people takes everything way too seriously today.

Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist. 

Billy could've grown up to be a serial-killer too. Who was that guy who got whipped so many times by a relative that he started to enjoy it and wanted to know how people looked on the inside?

[Altair_Carter]

In Estonia nobody would even care if the student would have a gun in his when on school.
in here, still the 1957 scenario applies, although mostly teacher finds out before any bigger damage are done anyway.Once again 1957 scenario.
 Well most cases it is still 1957 scenario, although it is getting worse in here too.

Also:
Russell Peters - Beating Your Children
 Once again 1957 scenario.
 
More likely Pedro would fail even summer school but are given enough credit just to pass to another grade. Otherwise still 1957. 1957
 
 Teacher would say to Johnny to get up and stop crying.

So welcome to back in time.

So fucking this.

[Squeak]

What the fuck am I reading.

[MrFrancis]

Yeah, most cases are still in the 1957. But other examples might be true...
And Lol'd at the 2010 Scenario of the Ant thing.

[Antonio.]

Lol. So true.

[Trobby888]

S1 : The 2010 situation actually looks better than the 1957 one. If you consider the 1957 one, there's a very high chance the student will go "Hehe! You don't scare me!" and start a massive shootout against the vice principal. That's the last thing you want to ever see happening in a supposed "safe" school.

S2 : The two described situations are very unrealistic models. For the 1957 one, I would highly doubt that the two students would magically become friends after being involved in a fist fight. Think about it, if you lost a fight against someone you hate, and the crowd even cheered his victory, wouldn't the first thing you think is to take revenge on him? As for the 2010 described situation - not a realistic model either. I don't think schools would take it to that level, unless if someone was killed or needed to be taken to hospital. At least that's how it is in Australia. Sorry, but the given scenario and outcomes need revising before any conclusions can be made.

S3 : 1957 model is realistic and is also a reasonable reaction. Didn't quite understand the 2010 model was all about though.

S4 : This scenario would be the perfect example of how the the our systems were screwed up over the years.

S5 : Although not as strong as S4, it is still a good example to prove your point.

S6 : As for 1957 model, it's quite likely that he might just fail again. The 2010 model, however has been over-exaggerated greatly. Give me a link to a real newspaper report that actually did explain how a English curriculum was racist and was "Forced to shut down" because one little student failed the course. Until then, I will consider your model as being unrealistic.

S7 : Lol at this one. I don't think the national security today would take it to the level that was described in your 2010 situation. Probably just a couple of cops that come along to arrest for vandalism or something.

S8 : I lol'ed at the 2010 one. I would wonder why the little boy would try to file any complaints against Mary doing that. It would be something for the comics if he really did do that.

[tiderman]

I remember when an old friend of mine launched a snowball at someone at my old school a few years ago when I was like... 12 or 13? The snowball hit another kid walking past and guess what happened? Yeah, the police was called in and my friend got sued. I think he had to pay the other kid a couple of thousand kronor for that shit. Because of BULLYING and BATTERY... Probably even rape, who the fuck knows. Just because of that one snowball.

That is the 21st century for y'all!

[Jamal]

I remember when an old friend of mine launched a snowball at someone at my old school a few years ago when I was like... 12 or 13? The snowball hit another kid walking past and guess what happened? Yeah, the police was called in and my friend got sued. I think he had to pay the other kid a couple of thousand kronor for that shit. Because of BULLYING and BATTERY... Probably even rape, who the f**k knows. Just because of that one snowball.

That is the 21st century for y'all!

lol


You forget to mention how high school[ers] have gotten more bad and lets say for situation 1.. maybe the kid has the gun to start a massacre. Its a good thing its taken. you forget also to keep in mind how JUST AS EASILY the situations were innocent, they could be violent or in a bad way.

[tiderman]

lol


You forget to mention how high school[ers] have gotten more bad and lets say for situation 1.. maybe the kid has the gun to start a massacre. Its a good thing its taken. you forget also to keep in mind how JUST AS EASILY the situations were innocent, they could be violent or in a bad way.

Yeah, if he would have gone home to get a semi-automatic pistol because he got hit in the back with a snowball... His parents must've seen this kind of behavior and aggression in him before at some point... and punched him in the face for it.

[Gimli]

Having lived both in the USA and Lithuania (Eastern Europe), I can honestly say that people in Eastern Europe have more true freedom than in the land of the free..

One of my friends moved to the USA to study in a private high school somewhere in Ohio. Before school started, he bought a car so he would have more freedom (remember: small town in Ohio).  He was shocked when he found out all the rules, e.g. he can't use his car without getting permission from the principal, he can't leave the premises anywhere after 8PM without permission, etc.. Worst of all, he's of age (18) to do all of those things legally

[Oliver]

Was going to make a post about how the 1957 scenarios still apply here, but Jubin beat me to the punch.

S2 : The two described situations are very unrealistic models. For the 1957 one, I would highly doubt that the two students would magically become friends after being involved in a fist fight. Think about it, if you lost a fight against someone you hate, and the crowd even cheered his victory, wouldn't the first thing you think is to take revenge on him? As for the 2010 described situation - not a realistic model either. I don't think schools would take it to that level, unless if someone was killed or needed to be taken to hospital. At least that's how it is in Australia. Sorry, but the given scenario and outcomes need revising before any conclusions can be made.

I'm a very good friend with a guy who lost a fistfight to me - are you saying it's not realistic?

Everyone I've ever fought with are friends of mine now.